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 The Gigabyte Bearlake Overclocking Challenge, Many Attrative Prizes to be won

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post Jun 7 2007, 10:05 AM

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this OC challenge was organise in kind heart by Gigabyte/HWM/GameAxis for the the community ma, and prizes are quite reasonable ma.. so dun complain tongue.gif eheh

and we dont really know how many participant will turn up as this P35 Board is quite new so, might not have alot of contestant.

IF thats is the case. we'll have all the categories group into 1. n the 6 prizes compile together into 3 or 4 winners prizes after verifying how many participants turn up lo.

its jst a little something by Gigabyte to hype our OCers community rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Suk @ Jun 7 2007, 03:18 AM)
well, RM1000 for 1st prize can't even buy a 8800GTS also sorry..
sorry not offending ah.. dont shoot me
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1. well the pcmark n the cpuz result will show me wat hardware u are using, but u can state it clearly for me in a list for easier reference. well weather if we know u are using air cooling or watercooling. its up to u to state so plesae be honest with us biggrin.gif
other den the judges to check the scores. the winner will be invited to our office to do a OCRUN. so.. den we'll roughly know if u are cheating or not whistling.gif

2. yes, as long as its a P35/Gigabyte.

3. its up to you to use wat ever proc u wan. we jst wanna see from stock to overclock difference OC ability

4. we meant by change hardware like. first run u using a normal ram, den during the OC session u use some better rams

5. Yes, only cpuz n pcmark scores. & if u'r trial user, provide me ur user name n password. the judges will check the breakdown scores, not jst only the fsb gained. smile.gif

6. Engineering Sample Processor OFCOURSE cannot use la.. that wont be fair to other ppl ma..

QUOTE(baok @ Jun 7 2007, 09:07 AM)
1. we need to post the link of cpu-z and pcmark scores only?? how do you know wether i use watercooling or aircooling? need to give my rig pics also??

2. the main hardware is any gigabyte P35 mobo rite?? others is our choice rite??

3. is there any other categories like kentsfield and conroe..

4. erm.. you said we cannot modified hardware... so if i remove the stock northbridge cooler and replace it with third party cooler, will it against the rules??

5. again.. only cpu-z and pcmark scores rite?? of both default and overclocked...
so the winners based on how many fsb gained??

6. Engineering Sample Processor can use or not tongue.gif laugh.gif

thanks

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post Jun 7 2007, 01:39 PM

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if only my main pc is connected to internet...

i will never let my main pc connected to internet. it's just too harmful tongue.gif

btw, anyone with gigabyte P35 should join this. isn't not you lose anything right? just oc for fun icon_rolleyes.gif

*btw, when will the result announced? which issue of HWM?
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QUOTE(moon* @ Jun 7 2007, 10:05 AM)
6. Engineering Sample Processor OFCOURSE cannot use la.. that wont be fair to other ppl ma..
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I don't understand this. Why using ES is unfair to others?
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post Jun 7 2007, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 7 2007, 02:54 PM)
I don't understand this. Why using ES is unfair to others?
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heh
if u do know ES processor well
then u would know the answer.
Many ES processor has the multiplier unlock,
and also, MOST of the ES are very clockable compare to those Retail packed, Clockable Batch.

let say Stepping 5B1 or 6B2, they are clockable, but still lose to ES processors..
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 7 2007, 01:54 PM)
I don't understand this. Why using ES is unfair to others?
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Hey Aleune taikor, long time no see biggrin.gif

the problem with ES is that they are stolen property from Intel if you have bought them, and the ones that are given of should we say, gifted to publications and online reviewers are for testing purposes only - its written in the agreement that you signed for the processor. In the past, we (the OC community) would close an eye if you were to use an ES, but since Intel is coming down hard on stolen goods now its not advisable to use them in 'public'. Same goes for competitions like these. Hope you understand. wink.gif
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Stole goods wont deserve prizes. bruce.gif
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eheh.. keep it cool dude tongue.gif

lets make it easy & fair for everyone.

i m sure majority will agree on it smile.gif

can i have a head count on who's participating?

QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 7 2007, 04:04 PM)
Stole goods wont deserve prizes.  bruce.gif
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jun 7 2007, 02:38 PM)
heh
if u do know ES processor well
then u would know the answer.
Many ES processor has the multiplier unlock,
and also, MOST of the ES are very clockable compare to those Retail packed, Clockable Batch.

let say Stepping 5B1 or 6B2, they are clockable, but still lose to ES processors..
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I doubt that.
For instance, there are many clockable E6600 retail processors that can hit 3.9GHz++. As far as I know, I have not seen anyone here at Lowyat forum clocks the ES procs beyond 3.9GHz.

As for the multiplier, we can tell whether the user changes the multiplier or not based on the processor type. i.e multiplier for E6600 must be 9.
Hence, I do not think it's an issue.


Added on June 7, 2007, 6:25 pm
QUOTE(kev da man @ Jun 7 2007, 03:27 PM)
Hey Aleune taikor, long time no see biggrin.gif

the problem with ES is that they are stolen property from Intel if you have bought them, and the ones that are given of should we say, gifted to publications and online reviewers are for testing purposes only - its written in the agreement that you signed for the processor. In the past, we (the OC community) would close an eye if you were to use an ES, but since Intel is coming down hard on stolen goods now its not advisable to use them in 'public'. Same goes for competitions like these. Hope you understand.  wink.gif
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Fair enough.

What about ES users who have the "written agreement" by Intel? Perhaps they are the online reviewers?
ES = stolen goods? It may not be the case.

I just want to highlight here ES processor should not be "discriminated". laugh.gif

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eheh.. we arent discriminating ES processor la laugh.gif

jst that we one something that can be reach from the shelves.

ES are hard to get. n well.. we duwan later issues where by later ppl complain cos they using normal n the winner using an "ES" procs.

jst wanna avoid issues similar to tat.. ehm.. so.. ALeUNe,
u joining this challenge?

well. who ever is joining this challenge please let me know, i wanna make a head count blush.gif

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 7 2007, 06:21 PM)
I just want to highlight here ES processor should not be "discriminated".  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 7 2007, 06:21 PM)

Added on June 7, 2007, 6:25 pm
Fair enough.

What about ES users who have the "written agreement" by Intel? Perhaps they are the online reviewers?
ES = stolen goods? It may not be the case.

I just want to highlight here ES processor should not be "discriminated".  laugh.gif
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then not fair for the other contestants also what biggrin.gif besides, not all ES chips are made better than the retail ones biggrin.gif
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if only i have the money to buy a gigabyte's p35 board in the first place......

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 7 2007, 07:21 PM)
I doubt that.
For instance, there are many clockable E6600 retail processors that can hit 3.9GHz++. As far as I know, I have not seen anyone here at Lowyat forum clocks the ES procs beyond 3.9GHz.

As for the multiplier, we can tell whether the user changes the multiplier or not based on the processor type. i.e multiplier for E6600 must be 9.
Hence, I do not think it's an issue.
i didnt said ES always meant to Intel Processors and also E6600 right? wink.gif

you mean Many clockable E6600 can hit 3.9Ghz, but u didnt see more E6600 cant even by pass 3.5Ghz.

i missed out something regarding the multiplayer issue. Some ES processor no matter its Intel or AMD processor, there are MANY which multiplier is unlocked.

jue like the AMD processors, their multiplier is LOCKED. so u would only get some certain of Mhz by following with the LOCKED multiplier.

Er..E6600 can work even at multiplier of 6. not a compulsory of 9. I seen a forum who got a ES E6600 which can multiplier in 10X. Guessing, 500Mhz x 10 equal to? cool2.gif

jus to share what i noe la icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jun 7 2007, 10:38 PM)
i didnt said ES always meant to Intel Processors and also E6600 right? wink.gif

you mean Many clockable E6600 can hit 3.9Ghz, but u didnt see more E6600 cant even by pass 3.5Ghz.

i missed out something regarding the multiplayer issue. Some ES processor no matter its Intel or AMD processor, there are MANY which multiplier is unlocked.

jue like the AMD processors, their multiplier is LOCKED. so u would only get some certain of Mhz by following with the LOCKED multiplier.

Er..E6600 can work even at multiplier of 6. not a compulsory of 9. I seen a forum who got a ES E6600 which can multiplier in 10X. Guessing, 500Mhz x 10 equal to?  cool2.gif

jus to share what i noe la icon_rolleyes.gif
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Oh well, if you read E6600, you should know the multiplier must be 9.
And the organiser should set a clause that all participants must not change the default multiplier.
Hence, 10x is a cheat.

What determines the best overclocking mobo?
IMO, the king of mobos is the mobo that can hit the highest CPU FSB with complete stability + full compability to handle memory dividers @ highest & optimum speed + full voltage setting.
I'd rather run at 8x500MHz instead 10x400MHz.
10x is actually redundant.

We must use low multiplier (i.e 6x, 7x, 8x) to know the max FSB the mobo can take. This is a good thing to get Bearlake 'cos it can handle higher FSB as compared to 965.


Added on June 8, 2007, 9:21 am
QUOTE(moon* @ Jun 7 2007, 07:09 PM)
eheh.. we arent discriminating ES processor la  laugh.gif

jst that we one something that can be reach from the shelves.

ES are hard to get. n well.. we duwan later issues where by later ppl complain cos they using normal n the winner using an "ES" procs.

jst wanna avoid issues similar to tat.. ehm.. so.. ALeUNe,
u joining this challenge?

well. who ever is joining this challenge please let me know, i wanna make a head count  blush.gif
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Fair enough.

I'm not participating this 'cos I'm too lazy to remove my waterblocks (VGA + chipset + CPU waterblocks). I'm too lazy to remove power & data cables and ram modules. tongue.gif It's time consuming and could be a real pain at times.

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dude it should be determined by highest scores...

cause if not then ram overclocking is useless also.


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lol.. ohh u'r using a P35 izzit?

u dunnit to remove wat.

jst leave ur cooling stuff there.. but clock ur settings back to stock/default/ run a pcmark05.done.

den, u start to OC it.

it doesnt mean u have to remove all the stuff n put stock heatsink.
u can water cool it from the start, but jst make sure its at default clock settings n etc..

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 8 2007, 09:14 AM)
Oh well, if you read E6600, you should know the multiplier must be 9.
And the organiser should set a clause that all participants must not change the default multiplier.
Hence, 10x is a cheat.

What determines the best overclocking mobo?
IMO, the king of mobos is the mobo that can hit the highest CPU FSB with complete stability + full compability to handle memory dividers @ highest & optimum speed + full voltage setting.
I'd rather run at 8x500MHz instead 10x400MHz.
10x is actually redundant.

We must use low multiplier (i.e 6x, 7x, 8x) to know the max FSB the mobo can take. This is a good thing to get Bearlake 'cos it can handle higher FSB as compared to 965.


Added on June 8, 2007, 9:21 am
Fair enough.

I'm not participating this 'cos I'm too lazy to remove my waterblocks (VGA + chipset + CPU waterblocks).  I'm too lazy to remove power & data cables and ram modules. tongue.gif It's time consuming and could be a real pain at times.
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he needs to remove all that to remove his ES chip la tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kev da man @ Jun 8 2007, 12:30 PM)
he needs to remove all that to remove his ES chip la tongue.gif
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Aye, I need to remove all the blocks to fix the gigabyte mobo.

Imagine CPU waterblock link to the chipset waterblock and VGA block (that attached to the VGA card). It's very difficult to remove it.
I need to clean the waterblocks & re-apply thermal grease before fixing it on new mobo.

Thru it. Done it. I know it is such a pain to remove them all.


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 8 2007, 09:42 AM)
dude it should be determined by highest scores...

cause if not then ram overclocking is useless also.
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Yeap, it gotta be the highest scores.
Low multiplier with highest possible FSB and memory speed.


Added on June 8, 2007, 12:53 pm
QUOTE(moon* @ Jun 8 2007, 09:42 AM)
jst leave ur cooling stuff there.. but clock ur settings back to stock/default/ run a pcmark05.done.
u can water cool it from the start, but jst make sure its at default clock settings n etc..
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No, it does not work as easy as you said.
You gotta dismantle all the blocks in the casing. This is bad thing about watercooling.

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may i know it this really going on? cause until now still no one has register for this competition. btw, vga clocking won't be taken into account. but how about other hardwares? like HDD if ppl use raptor? is it only proc oc will be taken into account?

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may i know the criteria of judgement?if purely depends on oc percentage,it will be unfair to proc with higher clock speed..
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jun 7 2007, 02:38 PM)
heh
if u do know ES processor well
then u would know the answer.
Many ES processor has the multiplier unlock,
and also, MOST of the ES are very clockable compare to those Retail packed, Clockable Batch.

let say Stepping 5B1 or 6B2, they are clockable, but still lose to ES processors..
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actually, the ES version also same only with retail in c2d case
retailed also has unlocked multi same as ES(they also locked upper wards) tongue.gif


QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 8 2007, 09:42 AM)
dude it should be determined by highest scores...

cause if not then ram overclocking is useless also.
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well, machine like urs sure can win this competitions.. rclxm9.gif sweat.gif

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