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 The Gigabyte Bearlake Overclocking Challenge, Many Attrative Prizes to be won

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ALeUNe
post Jun 7 2007, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(moon* @ Jun 7 2007, 10:05 AM)
6. Engineering Sample Processor OFCOURSE cannot use la.. that wont be fair to other ppl ma..
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I don't understand this. Why using ES is unfair to others?
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post Jun 7 2007, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jun 7 2007, 02:38 PM)
heh
if u do know ES processor well
then u would know the answer.
Many ES processor has the multiplier unlock,
and also, MOST of the ES are very clockable compare to those Retail packed, Clockable Batch.

let say Stepping 5B1 or 6B2, they are clockable, but still lose to ES processors..
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I doubt that.
For instance, there are many clockable E6600 retail processors that can hit 3.9GHz++. As far as I know, I have not seen anyone here at Lowyat forum clocks the ES procs beyond 3.9GHz.

As for the multiplier, we can tell whether the user changes the multiplier or not based on the processor type. i.e multiplier for E6600 must be 9.
Hence, I do not think it's an issue.


Added on June 7, 2007, 6:25 pm
QUOTE(kev da man @ Jun 7 2007, 03:27 PM)
Hey Aleune taikor, long time no see biggrin.gif

the problem with ES is that they are stolen property from Intel if you have bought them, and the ones that are given of should we say, gifted to publications and online reviewers are for testing purposes only - its written in the agreement that you signed for the processor. In the past, we (the OC community) would close an eye if you were to use an ES, but since Intel is coming down hard on stolen goods now its not advisable to use them in 'public'. Same goes for competitions like these. Hope you understand.  wink.gif
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Fair enough.

What about ES users who have the "written agreement" by Intel? Perhaps they are the online reviewers?
ES = stolen goods? It may not be the case.

I just want to highlight here ES processor should not be "discriminated". laugh.gif

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post Jun 8 2007, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jun 7 2007, 10:38 PM)
i didnt said ES always meant to Intel Processors and also E6600 right? wink.gif

you mean Many clockable E6600 can hit 3.9Ghz, but u didnt see more E6600 cant even by pass 3.5Ghz.

i missed out something regarding the multiplayer issue. Some ES processor no matter its Intel or AMD processor, there are MANY which multiplier is unlocked.

jue like the AMD processors, their multiplier is LOCKED. so u would only get some certain of Mhz by following with the LOCKED multiplier.

Er..E6600 can work even at multiplier of 6. not a compulsory of 9. I seen a forum who got a ES E6600 which can multiplier in 10X. Guessing, 500Mhz x 10 equal to?  cool2.gif

jus to share what i noe la icon_rolleyes.gif
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Oh well, if you read E6600, you should know the multiplier must be 9.
And the organiser should set a clause that all participants must not change the default multiplier.
Hence, 10x is a cheat.

What determines the best overclocking mobo?
IMO, the king of mobos is the mobo that can hit the highest CPU FSB with complete stability + full compability to handle memory dividers @ highest & optimum speed + full voltage setting.
I'd rather run at 8x500MHz instead 10x400MHz.
10x is actually redundant.

We must use low multiplier (i.e 6x, 7x, 8x) to know the max FSB the mobo can take. This is a good thing to get Bearlake 'cos it can handle higher FSB as compared to 965.


Added on June 8, 2007, 9:21 am
QUOTE(moon* @ Jun 7 2007, 07:09 PM)
eheh.. we arent discriminating ES processor la  laugh.gif

jst that we one something that can be reach from the shelves.

ES are hard to get. n well.. we duwan later issues where by later ppl complain cos they using normal n the winner using an "ES" procs.

jst wanna avoid issues similar to tat.. ehm.. so.. ALeUNe,
u joining this challenge?

well. who ever is joining this challenge please let me know, i wanna make a head count  blush.gif
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Fair enough.

I'm not participating this 'cos I'm too lazy to remove my waterblocks (VGA + chipset + CPU waterblocks). I'm too lazy to remove power & data cables and ram modules. tongue.gif It's time consuming and could be a real pain at times.

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QUOTE(kev da man @ Jun 8 2007, 12:30 PM)
he needs to remove all that to remove his ES chip la tongue.gif
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Aye, I need to remove all the blocks to fix the gigabyte mobo.

Imagine CPU waterblock link to the chipset waterblock and VGA block (that attached to the VGA card). It's very difficult to remove it.
I need to clean the waterblocks & re-apply thermal grease before fixing it on new mobo.

Thru it. Done it. I know it is such a pain to remove them all.


Added on June 8, 2007, 12:50 pm
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 8 2007, 09:42 AM)
dude it should be determined by highest scores...

cause if not then ram overclocking is useless also.
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Yeap, it gotta be the highest scores.
Low multiplier with highest possible FSB and memory speed.


Added on June 8, 2007, 12:53 pm
QUOTE(moon* @ Jun 8 2007, 09:42 AM)
jst leave ur cooling stuff there.. but clock ur settings back to stock/default/ run a pcmark05.done.
u can water cool it from the start, but jst make sure its at default clock settings n etc..
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No, it does not work as easy as you said.
You gotta dismantle all the blocks in the casing. This is bad thing about watercooling.

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