Hi Hades, thank you for your guide. I do want to choose in software. Is future as a web designer kinda bright? Do this position has high demand? Because mostly I study myself with no guidance and no guarantee I can compete with other people to get the job since I'm engineering graduate.

Of course as you suggest I will do learn about HTML 5 programming language which mostly for web developer I suppose. I don't think my boss ever given me any chance to do some training because he's kinda.... haha

Which field of engineering are you in? What do you think being an engineer? Worth your time or if you have any chance or knowledge about IT you would go for IT field?

Thank you so much for this, really helps in motivating me. May I know what industry are you in? I do love programming but it's like I have no guidance unlike people who are graduated from CS they are guided well and that I have a disadvantage. I can consider myself a fast learner in IT field tho. Ok, if I need to stay in this IT industry, I need to imporve myself by taking some cert.

I'm mostly interested in web development thing. What is your opinion about this? Will this industry getting lower demand in the future? What cert should I take? (sorry a lot of questions on my mind right now)

I can say when I interview for engineering jobs, I have a big disadvantage over other candidates which are fresh grads too. I'm currently employed and have 2 months notice so I think they won't even bother me because mostly they don't want to wait 2 months for a fresh grad to enter.
The reason they take fresh grad maybe because they want urgent replacement.

I don't know what my future gonna be if I don't plan any now I'm really scared to get into the future seriously

Why you studied engineering at first place?

Revert back to your path

you are in digital marketing?

develop websites is more to UXUI designer now

design something for marketing purpose you mean hero banner and some images with marketing message?

then do you do facebook marketing? instagram marketing? email markting? google ads marketing?

not sure will you back to engineering.

But if you are doing develop website and design something for marketing, you future path will be stick to UXUI or multimedia design.

the industry needs UXUI designer now but quite hectic imo

if your job position is digital marketing, shd ask the company to let you do some marketing purpose like email marketing, google ads, google analytics, learn about marketing + analytics at the same time.

woah, me too, which company you're in?

I'm sure that was too young and too dumb to realize lol. Ya I need to revert back to engineering path but 2 months notice is making it harder. I just need an engineering company that willing to wait just 2 months is enough then I can start in engineering back.

Yes, because actually my boss gonna save some budget and he asked me to develop websites which I learn entirely from Google because it's not really my job here but I managed to complete corporate and ecommerce websites which is really hard for me haha.

And yes too, design something like that hero banner, catalog, etc..

And more yes, I do fb ads, ig marketing, ems, google ads, analytics and quite a few more too. Actually I'm here is the first one in marketing dept. Only me in marketing here so most of the things I know I learned myself in this company.

From your opinion, should I move back to engineering or stay in this path? Not sure if this path (which my job scope now as mentioned by you) will have a bright future ahead because many competitions.

What do you mean by this? Quite hectic?

I'm in Banking/Financial industry, 1st company, local banks, 2nd company local banks, 3rd company, china banks, all vendor.

abt the guided part tho, i don't see it as a head start for people. Ayam have no degree but my diploma pointer is 3.9 and degree's course structure didn't teach those framework and lang that the industry is using also. So CS degree don't get you any further than those who know OOP only( i mean of course CS will have advantages because in their studies they learn encryption, cryptography, but so what, u can just learn it in saylor.org today, now and it cost u nothing. i learned all the courses that local U provide to their degree student in saylor, sometime we have some conversation in some course they have in that sem, they surprise that i know exactly what they know.)

To be honest, u just have to keep search and ask, and search and ask bunch of ppl(online, quora, stackoverflow, forums), lucky u ask in /k, some ppl just live a white picket fence life. (trust me, ppl in this world still willing to help those who is in struggle, so don bother your starting point just continue the path that you have choosen, don look back, keep going.)

from what i expose to(senior in IT, feel free to correct me if im wrong. thanks), below its the current trend (quite hot topic recently, steadily have increase demand in the job market.)

Web Front-end tech
-Angular 5/6 (i only learned 1 & 2)
-Vue.js (haven learn)
-React.js (haven learn)

Web back-end tech (mostly services, restful)
-Java, Kotlin (kotlin is much better but msia still slow, not much ppl use, java still the big boss)
-ASP.net (know some of my friends did, and didn't want to put my mind into it bcause want to specialize in Java, but in market, still freaking
high demand)
-php (did some freelance to startup companies, its a quite good feeling, but have to re-learn as it's syntax its more differ from .net and java)
-node.js (super HITZ, a must learn i can say, because it can use as services or front-end)

DB, framework, etc..
framework diff comes from which lang you use( exp, java use spring more, php use laravel, asp use .net etc...), doesn't bother as long u know sql, t-sql, and get things works. as newbie, i myself just try to get things done, performance, tuning and optimization, comes after.( but also need to have a bit of concern also lah, cannot totally ignore)

i might left out some, apologize beforehand.

i wouldn't say getting lower demand, as demand in this industry is getting high because a lot of startup pop-up want to be the next google lmao, but the problem is, a lot of grad, a shit tons of grad every yrs, from private or gov, 1-2 batches per year, and small or medium SME want ppl with exp, so only left out MNC who willing to train fresh meat, so abit more opinion, u either stay in MNC to climb the coporate ladder, or join SME but taking risk tat those companies will closed due to problem but if successful, good luck as those bosses will treasure you.

about cert, really depend on what u wish to specialize, i on plan to take oracle one, but still thinking. maybe will get cisco one because ayam more specialize in back-end so on top of it, if i know how to set up all the server, and routing stuff, will have huge impact on ayam punya career.
you can go search on all those cert and see what they specialize in and go on.



if the employer don't bother, just want to get people as fast as they can,

you can see it as, they're expanding need lot of ppl ASAP, don care quality, just quantity, it might be pain ass if u get in one of those
or the turnover is freaking high.

i can say if it's a really good and quality employer, and u're able to impress them with your attitudes. FOR SURE, con 9 lan 7 firm, they will wait you, even you're fresh grad, (even if you're a employer, both also fresh grad, one need wait 2 months(better attitude, quality), one tmr can start work(ego, shit personality), which one u choose?, both also need train, why not train the one, who is humble and good boy) so what i suggest is, sharpen your interview skill, this one dictate all of it.

lastly, a bit personal chicken soup for you, the reason i didn't cont my degree is because my 3.9 pointer wasn't high enough, because in order to grant both in-house scholarship and ptptn in degree, my diploma pointer must >3.95, and i was so sad during that last 2nd sem because i know even i take gpa 4 in the last sem couldnt drag up my cgpa to 3.95, and that i reach the conclusion to take a fast way to reach floor 1, ayam floor 16(because my dad couldn't afford my living expenses so i have to think a way to cont my degree). i called befriender...couldn't help...hang up ....half leg ady step outside the window. and no joke, my mom's face flash in my mind(im single parent, my mom pass away when i was young). and.....i didn't do it.... so after so many days of torture, i didn't stay inside the past, i just try to do whatever i can, i learn to write resume, and send out shit tons of them, help to get employ as i ady give up my degree at that moment, and my interview comes, i tell the employer, i just diploma, but i willing to learn, and i'm a slow pace learner, but i don give up on things. they wait me for 1 months, because ayam is a part-time teacher that time.

and things getting better and better for me nowadays. what i want to say is, when god shut the door in front of you, he always open another window for you, just have to look for it.

so if u're want to revert bek to engineering, don give up, try to do some research online and learn what the market looking for, and wat stuff u at least need to know abit of. and keep trying on interview. One day, the ngam one will just tell you "come work for me, after 2 months notices".

lol i personally think design job is hectic and tedious




im in this industry so i think it is bright, because social media always exist, and AI is coming in, and you need analytics to analyse the data for your marketing purpose. So it is important.

Im not sure about your path, you can decide based on what are you doing now VS engineering

Why not go for IT Engineering?

Wow, you're very kind. If you were a girl I'd chase you till the end already even you rejected me

These are the best bro. I read it like 10 times and it is very motivating me. Anyway, you're banking industry but are you in IT department?


No kidding I'll research and learn all of these and become a master. But only if I've given up being and engineer. Right now I'm still in the middle, don't know where to go it feels like my future is so dark I can't see anything.


These are very beautiful words spoken. You're lucky maybe you can do degree and master too after this because your life has gotten better. And me, maybe the same sad life like yours, had no both parents since 3 years ago and I'm not a rich person either. Living is hard at some point I was gonna kill myself lol but thinking of my siblings, I feel like I need to do something so my future will be bright and can support them.


I'm really hoping your last sentence will come true. This making me sadder..

Ya,I'd love to. Since I'm majoring in automation, so if IT Engineering would be good, it's quite my dream job too. But my title in my current job now, digital marketing, and job scope isn't related to that. And as mentioned, it's hard to get into engineering company in my current situation.

I can self study, but I have no guidance at all about what should I study, what IT engineering industry would work etc.. if you have any opinion can share me here. I'd very thankful for that.

Ya, I think IT has so many field that takes hundreds years to master all. Maybe need to choose something like more demandable in the future...

Seriously, I agreed with this. I'm working as a design freelancer too, so my client always demand that, want to amend that and that but want cheaper price for something I took hours to do lol.

My boss too, I sent him a design, then he rejected, need to do another... T.T

thats why i quit as graphic design and be digital marketing instead

You're in digital marketing? Wow same position as mine. Mind to share any experience on how to succeed in this field?

i think there are creative side or analytical side

i think im in the middle

succeed? hit your KPI? lol

Hard to say, u need to hands on to that.
But you can try apply jobs in Siemens. They just got SCADA project in Kedah and currently they want to hiring SCADA team because they dont have one. Who knows if they will hire you.

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