Hi all,

Wanna ask if possibility use m.2 NVME SSD on z77 mobo using PCIE x1 or x16 adapter?

Thanks in advance

This post has been edited by lat_lonelyboyz: Nov 21 2018, 07:36 AM

what is ur mobo model? tell me the model i tell u can or cannot.

it's GA-Z77P-D3

Yes, you can.
https://www.win-raid.com/t871f50-Guide-How-...-UEFI-BIOS.html

At least PCIE X4 3.0 adapters are recommended for M.2 PCIE SSDs. If you use PCIE X1 or X2, your M.2 PCIE SSD could get bottlenecked.

PCIE 2.0 X1 = 5GT/s
PCIE 3.0 X1 = 8GT/s

More details:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

if used PCIE X16 run at X4 gen3, thats mean my primary GPU will run at x8 right? because just saw some website sell PCIE X16 adapter for m.2 NVME SSD socket

This post has been edited by lat_lonelyboyz: Oct 29 2018, 04:06 PM

Yes, your GPU will run X8. You just lose slight performance. Weaker graphic cards may not lose at all.

GTX 1080 PCIE Scaling:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/...xpress_Scaling/

RTX 2080 Ti PCIE Scaling:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/...xpress_Scaling/

This post has been edited by TristanX: Oct 29 2018, 04:16 PM

Sound like quite ok for me as I'm not purely gaming. What I concern is just ran out of my SATA3 slot and plan to use PCIE slot instead. Some more, got plenty seller out there sell their m.2 NVME SSD that might be future proof for upgrade my mobo later instead stick with with common 2.5 SATA SSD

Thanks boss

You could, but why would you do that?

1. SATA SSD is much cheaper and pretty much similar as far as everyday use is concerned

2. Upgrading to a platform with native NVMe M.2 boot support will reduce headache in troubleshooting

3. Future-proofing Z77? Seriously? Go Coffee-lake at least, IMHO

This post has been edited by mbr: Oct 29 2018, 10:03 PM

1. if quite same price why not...that's why plan tu use adapter 1st before upgrading my whole system and asking here whether can support or not.

3. That's my plan. so invest for common 2.5 SATA SSD is quite waste because already got 1. So for future upgrade, if using m.2 NVME adapter now, will reduce my headache and not sacrificed speed as well

It is not supported.

The only support is using M.2 slot but running on SATA Signal lane.
NVMe required PCIe Signal lane which is not presented in GA-Z77P-D3's mSATA port.

my advice is to get M.2 SATA SSD... this should be sufficient for normal desktop use. NVMe does not really improve much vs the money spent.

If insist on the NVMe. I will say go build a new system.

Good Luck.

Oh i see. thanks buddy.

What did you get this data? The SATA signal line.

The PCI Express X16 slots connects directly to the CPU.


https://hothardware.com/reviews/z77-motherb...-gigabyte-intel

This post has been edited by TristanX: Oct 30 2018, 10:05 AM

Good study...

The PCIe direct connect to CPU is called PEG. This is the graphic card slot.
The SATA does not shows on M.2. But it is clearly stated on the printed port. "M.2 SATA".
Also Z77 is quite old for the NVMe support.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z77P-D3-rev-11#ov
"Onboard mSATA slot for mSATA SSDs"



As u can see it is stated mSATA...

AND my apologies... This is mSATA... not M.2... totally different type of connector... This board does not have M.2 Slot.. it only have mSATA port.

This post has been edited by popopi: Oct 30 2018, 10:28 AM

Well, TS intends to buy M.2 PCIE adapter. It uses PCI Express slots. PCI Express is universal. You can put 10Gbps (PCIE X4) network card, IO card, SATA card, m.2 PCIE (PCIE X4) card, USB 3.1 gen 2 card (PCIE X4) on it. Yes, you can put PCIE X1 card on PCI Express X16 slot too.

But.... if you touch PCIe X16 slot.

Option 1 Z68 chipset onwards populated slots:
PCIE X16 (PCIE X16 for the GPU)

PCIE X16 (nothing)

Option 2 :
PCIE X16 (PCIE X8 for the GPU)

PCIE X16 (PCIE X4 for M2.PCIE card)

Option 3:
PCIE X16 (PCIE X8 for the GPU)

PCIE X16 (PCIE X1 or X2 for other devices)

Option 4 (multi-GPU):
PCIE X16 (PCIE X8 for the GPU)

PCIE X16 (PCIE X8 fo the GPU)

Option 5 (multi-GPU):
PCIE X16 (PCIE X8 for the GPU)

PCIE X16 (PCIE X4 fo the GPU)

PCIE X16 (PCIE X4 fo the GPU)

This post has been edited by TristanX: Oct 30 2018, 10:59 AM

Tristanx, Thanks for the correction.

Yes TS, if you are getting the M.2 PCIe adaptor... make sure your BIOS able to support or not for bootable PCIe devices.
My experience with older platform is that even you have all the hardware. the BIOS will not detect and the Win10 Installation will not "see" the NVMe devices. and cannot format to install.

if the adaptor is cheap, it is worth a try.... I am telling based on my experience with Intel's product knowledge....

my bad didn't mention about wanna use on boot device or not. my apologies

ok I will make a simple situation here.

1. buying PCIE adapter for NVMe because ran out SATA3 slot. currently got one 2.5 SATA SSD used to boot device. if my mobo PCIE X16 can support the adapter, even running on PCIE X4, that's good news because still can using it even not as boot device.

2. Intend to buy adapter + m.2 NVMe SSD instead of 2.5 SSD because plan to upgrade my whole system in future which can utilize native m.2 NVMe SSD. so quite waste buying another 2.5 SSD SATA IF just run on SATA2 instead PCIE X4 SSD using adapter

my apologise if got some misleading here

Yeah, can use this too.
https://www.win-raid.com/t871f50-Guide-How-...-UEFI-BIOS.html

M.2 PCIE is the future.

I cant imagine if there is PCIE X16 M.2 SSD. lol

Before you proceed with buying the NVME SSD, you need to modify the BIOS and addd the NVME module so the motherboard will be able to boot from NVME SSD
Without the NVME module added into the BIOS, your motherboard will not be able to boot from it

will make my current SATA SSD like common 3.5 HDD LOL. that's why for future proof update, I want PCIE SSD even using adapter. i know, it will just run (if my mobo support) at only PCIE X4 gen2.0 but still, faster than 2.5 SSD SATA3

This post has been edited by lat_lonelyboyz: Oct 30 2018, 02:46 PM

PCIE 2.0 X4 is 20GT/s or 2.5 Gigabytes per second. Still significantly faster than SATA. It depends on brand and model.

I found ADATA SX8200 SSD cheapest and fastest in it class which just around rm300. still slightly faster and cheaper than KC1000

This post has been edited by lat_lonelyboyz: Oct 30 2018, 03:08 PM

Why not direct go for below PCIe SSD.. much much better performance.
https://www.sysnapse.com/index.php?route=pr...zcaAqG7EALw_wcB

The price. Samsung 970 Pro has better price/performance.

Hi, I am wondering the same.

I have system per below ;
- Mobo : Asus Rampage IV Gene
- CPU : i7-3970X

I was planning to plant in NVME SSD on the PCI slot.
Wonder if it works or better stay conventional by using sata port.

Better stay SATA until you are 100% certain the NVMe does work for the old system.
If not you will be wasting your money... those PCIe NVMe SSD ain't cheap yooo...

Already ordered the PCIE adapter and I will try update in this thread once received and test it

Some NVMe SSD quite affordable now like ADATA and OEM Toshiba that tone of seller are sell theirs in garage sales. Price still around SATA SSD range.

Why my post here get deleted?

It will certainly works, just google the thread title and you will be surprised.

Thanks for the advice.
Look forward too for the PCIe to NVMe conversion result.
If works with stock BIOS, it should be a good thing then.


Great, please update the result and work step required.
I'm rebuilding my RIG, but not from ground 0.
Still attached with X79 technology.

as for drive, certainly can but as for bootable/system drive highly doubted.

the adapter I ordered may take some time because its shipped from China

Reading through other forums and site, not advice use as primary / bootable.


If there no option ssem then have to move forward to newer tech.

it will work..
if ure mobo manufactorer didnt implement the drivers in your bios for booting u might have to mod it .


https://www.win-raid.com/t871f50-Guide-How-...-UEFI-BIOS.html

Mentioned before...just as drive before upgrade the whole base system. Maybe AM4. so for now, wanna use adapter just for data drive instead bootable drive

Thanks for the link bro

Received the adapter. It's working but just run on PCIe Gen2 x4 only instead Gen3 as secondary PCIe slot. My GPU also run at x2 only as secondary slot is populated

so far, quite impressive even cheap NVMe

If you are a gamer, I think using secondary slot for NVMe SSD is not wise plan as will drop your GPU performance



This post has been edited by lat_lonelyboyz: Dec 5 2018, 06:08 PM