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Investment AIRBNB unfriendly condo, Please help input if you know of those

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post Dec 14 2018, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ivylee @ Nov 15 2018, 05:12 PM)
if not mistaken commercial under HDA, by right cant do air bnb rite. so buy property we aso need aware about this
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but it seems commercial hda also risky. If purely commercial should be the safest. Anyway also subject to the JMB decisions.
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post Dec 14 2018, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(warface @ Dec 14 2018, 04:51 PM)
but it seems commercial hda also risky. If purely commercial should be the safest. Anyway also subject to the JMB decisions.
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alamak, how many times i need to explain already...

there is no commercial hda and residential hda. HDA is HDA....and it will and only covered residential usage properties.
there is no different btw jmb in residential property with commercial or residential land title.

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post Dec 14 2018, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(warface @ Dec 14 2018, 04:49 PM)
a alot of  condo/service apartment banning -airbnb now. Will rumawip ban rental and airbnb also? hmm.gif
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this is interesting.

bcos if they only ban Airbnb without banning long term rental, meaning the jmb is admitting long term rental is ok.
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post Dec 14 2018, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 15 2018, 12:09 AM)
alamak, how many times i need to explain already...

there is no commercial hda and residential hda. HDA is HDA....and it will and only covered residential usage properties.
there is no different btw jmb in residential property with commercial or residential land title.
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bean boss,
a) commercial title govern under hda -usually 90% max loan margin 1st and 2nd prop
b) purely residential - usually 90% max loan margin 1st and 2nd prop
c) Commercial soho, sovo - usually 80% max loan margin no capping

apa difference? can explain a bit boss? that's my understanding on the type.
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post Dec 14 2018, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 14 2018, 11:11 PM)
this is interesting.

bcos if they only ban Airbnb without banning long term rental, meaning the jmb is admitting long term rental is ok.
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Both are different...If you understand how the true Airbnb /homestay works. The Airbnb form that you most see is hybrid Hotel operation.

But I do agree they shouldn't allow both.
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post Dec 14 2018, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(warface @ Dec 14 2018, 11:20 PM)
bean boss,
a) commercial title govern under hda -usually 90% max loan margin 1st and 2nd prop
b) purely residential - usually 90% max loan margin 1st and 2nd prop
c) Commercial soho, sovo - usually 80% max loan margin no capping

apa difference? can explain a bit boss? that's my understanding on the type.
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these were imposed by banks, Not HDA.

what I saying was the power and limitation of both JMB re strata title act has no differences whether the residential portion of the building is sit on commercial or residential land title.
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post Dec 14 2018, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 15 2018, 12:30 AM)
these were imposed by banks, Not HDA.

what I saying was the power and limitation of both JMB re strata title act has no differences whether the residential portion of the building is sit on commercial or residential land title.
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Understand the margin is banks standard, thanks bean boss for highlighting.
those really commercial type should be more receptive to airbnb kwa, since its already commercial owner shld hv the mentality of using the prop for business purpose - include airbnb hmm.gif
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post Dec 14 2018, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(warface @ Dec 14 2018, 11:44 PM)
Understand the margin is banks standard, thanks bean boss for highlighting.
those really commercial type should be more receptive to airbnb kwa, since its already commercial owner shld hv the mentality of using the prop for business purpose - include airbnb  hmm.gif
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no lah....

if developer applied development under schedule H of HDA, it got no different from sch H of HDA for residential title lah.

what is so commercial about commercial land resi usage compared to resi land resi usage?????? few shops below? no fancy lobby? higher utility charges?

mind you, some rumawip also developed under commercial land.


my only suggestive of airbnb usually more flourish in commercial land resi usage building is that most of them are facing or near main road, transportation and key commercial areas whereas resi land condo usually stuck in taman taman residential areas.


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post Dec 15 2018, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 15 2018, 12:50 AM)
no lah....

if developer applied development under schedule H of HDA, it got no different from sch H of HDA for residential title lah.

what is so commercial about commercial land resi usage compared to resi land resi usage?????? few shops below? no fancy lobby? higher utility charges?

mind you, some rumawip also developed under commercial land.
my only suggestive of airbnb usually more flourish in commercial land resi usage building is that most of them are facing or near main road, transportation and key commercial areas whereas resi land condo usually stuck in taman taman residential areas.
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ya agree, more activities and convenient in commercial area/tourist area/medical area with transport, eateries, maybe tourist attraction, business or medical purpose etc.
residential area also got demand geh, but might be limited. Usually for visitors, marriage house (fr friends or relative) etc.
that's my view la biggrin.gif
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post Dec 15 2018, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 14 2018, 02:49 PM)
trust4you to update in ban list:

The Reach @ Titiwangsa
refer: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=91228189
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aiyo beautiful place and nice place for airbnb also kena ban. really rugi, price not cheap also for the reach, thanks or da update thumbsup.gif

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post Dec 15 2018, 08:54 AM

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ManutdGiggs boss is DPC of any way airbnb unfriendly?
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post Dec 15 2018, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(trust4you @ Dec 15 2018, 08:54 AM)
ManutdGiggs boss is DPC of any way airbnb unfriendly?
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saw one post at Studio [or soho, cant remember, above the shoplot] at Arcadia. very badly reno....macam cincai kautim and put on Airbnb. No free parking on premises. need to pay by meter.

so far none for dpc condos.
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post Dec 15 2018, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(trust4you @ Dec 15 2018, 08:54 AM)
ManutdGiggs boss is DPC of any way airbnb unfriendly?
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Onli soho is allowed but not officially too.

The rest nope.
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post Dec 15 2018, 12:45 PM

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An update on 9.11.2018. This injunction was dismissed by the Court of Appeal on 5.11.2018.

The Airbnb lost their courtcase. This particular operator has lost their court case with The Verve Mk and now with Setia Sky Residences.

Subsequently the MC has voted a reso to ban Airbnb and all operation should ceased by before end of January.2019.

https://blog.burgielaw.com/2018/10/11/strat...airbnb-parcels/

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 15 2018, 10:02 AM)
saw one post at Studio [or soho, cant remember, above the shoplot]  at Arcadia. very badly reno....macam cincai kautim and put on Airbnb. No free parking on premises. need to pay by meter.

so far none for dpc condos.
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Not a surprise at all. Only investors who bought wrong property need to resort to Airbnb.
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post Dec 15 2018, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Dec 15 2018, 12:45 PM)
An update on 9.11.2018. This injunction was dismissed by the Court of Appeal on 5.11.2018.

The Airbnb lost their courtcase. This particular operator has lost their court case with The Verve Mk and now with Setia Sky Residences.

Subsequently the MC has voted a reso to ban Airbnb and all operation should ceased by before end of January.2019.

https://blog.burgielaw.com/2018/10/11/strat...airbnb-parcels/
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is the 'short term tenancy' defined in our national land code?
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QUOTE(gks @ Dec 15 2018, 12:55 PM)
Not a surprise at all. Only investors who bought wrong property need to resort to Airbnb.
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you don't say it....

ekojuilai also will be full of Airbnb...….those loft units, jialat.
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Dec 15 2018, 12:11 PM)
Onli soho is allowed but not officially too.

The rest nope.
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I think sofiya ppl buy make as investment many may do airbnb later on
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post Dec 15 2018, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(trust4you @ Dec 15 2018, 03:13 PM)
I think sofiya ppl buy make as investment many may do airbnb later on
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If the mentality of owners there r not for long run then tis might b the best airbnb biz in Sofiya.

Gd or bad owners there hav to bear with it. With a strong jmb to preserve the beauty of 1 project regardless the price point the condo ll last a marathon. Vice versa if otherwise.
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post Dec 15 2018, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(trust4you @ Dec 15 2018, 03:13 PM)
I think sofiya ppl buy make as investment many may do airbnb later on
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why u think airbnb will floushing in sofiya? what are the attraction of dpc for these airbnb guests?


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