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post Oct 25 2018, 10:47 AM, updated 8y ago

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Powering the Golf GTI-rival from France is a 1.6-litre turbocharged Prince engine that outputs a whopping 270 hp and 330 Nm, sent to the front wheels via a 6-speed manual.

If you shift quick enough, the 308 GTI can complete the century sprint in 6 seconds flat.



https://www.carlist.my/news/all-new-peugeot...p-330-nm/53149/

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1.6 270hp is quite impressive...
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1.6 270hp is quite impressive...how much is this beast ?
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 25 2018, 10:50 AM)
1.6 270hp is quite impressive...
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 25 2018, 10:50 AM)
1.6 270hp is quite impressive...how much is this beast ?
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 25 2018, 10:53 AM)
What point when it may sit in the SC most of the time?
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 25 2018, 10:50 AM)
1.6 270hp is quite impressive...how much is this beast ?
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RM199,888
It's the cheapest car with 270hp in the market I believe
It drove like a beast
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post Oct 25 2018, 10:57 AM

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208 GTI for me.. smaller more nimble and affordable.. *just that don't trust Naza in after sales...
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my friend bought 5008 peugeot so far ok no problem bring 6 passenger to genting car alrdy half year
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The supiak thing is the steering positioning blocking the gauges meter. Or probably stupiak gauges meter in the wrong position. lol

Lotsa reviewer complaining the unseen gauges meter.

The aircon control is on the infotainment touch screen which very dangerous to control while driving.

Other than that, it looks not bad just the shape too contemporary.




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Although Peugeot has it's issues, still not as legendary as Volkswagen
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hmmmmmm I really concern about this brand robustness, will stay away from this brand until at least many good feedback turn out
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Will wait for used unit. >RM100k

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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Oct 25 2018, 11:01 AM)
my friend bought 5008 peugeot so far ok no problem bring 6 passenger to genting  car alrdy half year
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Oct 25 2018, 11:04 AM)
Although Peugeot has it's issues, still not as legendary as Volkswagen
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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Oct 25 2018, 11:01 AM)
my friend bought 5008 peugeot so far ok no problem bring 6 passenger to genting  car alrdy half year
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Oct 25 2018, 10:59 AM)
208 GTI for me.. smaller more nimble and affordable.. *just that don't trust Naza in after sales...
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The 208 GTi is slightly more nimble for tighter tracks, but the 308 GTi is a beast when it comes to power and grip. LSD really changes everything

QUOTE(dman @ Oct 25 2018, 11:02 AM)
The supiak thing is the steering positioning blocking the gauges meter. Or probably stupiak gauges meter in the wrong position. lol

Lotsa reviewer complaining the unseen gauges meter.

The aircon control is on the infotainment touch screen which very dangerous to control while driving.

Other than that, it looks not bad just the shape too contemporary.
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Actually that is because they don't change the steering height. After driving in a car with this steering and gauge, I find any other steering cumbersome and large. It's so much more natural to have the steering lower.

QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Oct 25 2018, 11:04 AM)
hmmmmmm  I really concern about this brand robustness, will stay away from this brand until at least many good feedback turn out
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The newer engines since 308 T9 have been much more reliable. It's the same engine line that has been iterated many times to remove all the problems of the past.
It's practically a totally different engine compared to the older 308 which had huge issues when first launched.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:09 AM)
VW same also.
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Pijot dealer in Malaysia is no.1 from behind, even VW also lose to them

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Oct 25 2018, 11:14 AM)
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 25 2018, 11:17 AM)
Pijot dealer in Malaysia is no.1 from behind, even VW also lose to them

Before u buy, better think over 9000 times. Don't later buy, spend half the time parking at workshop
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Alot of their issues have been fixed mechanically. There is a reason why their recent 3008 sold like hot cakes. Good safety specs, good build quality, good interior, and much improved electronics & engine.
If you ask me, avoid their 308 T7 pre-facelift used units. Unless you got a great deal, then get a pre-2014 unit that has 7 years warranty.
The 308 T9 onwards on the other hand have been very reliable. I trust their turbo that has been iterated to death over the newer japanese turbos. The europeans are much more experience now with turbos than the japanese, because they have gone through their labour pains 5 year ago.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:12 AM)
The newer engines since 308 T9 have been much more reliable. It's the same engine line that has been iterated many times to remove all the problems of the past.
It's practically a totally different engine compared to the older 308 which had huge issues when first launched.
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engines improved but what about the electronics?

this had been the main concern for peugeots not the engine or drive train actually. you will get sudden sensor error messages, and when its time to fix the sc don't have stock available

so it all boils down to the after sales service
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my sales man says pijot now improvement d..no more sit in sc long long
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 10:56 AM)
RM199,888
It's the cheapest car with 270hp in the market I believe
It drove like a beast
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1.6 category tapao all in its class oredi ..can test drive in showroom oredi ?
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1.6 category tapao all in its class oredi ..can test drive in showroom oredi ?
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 25 2018, 11:22 AM)
engines improved but what about the electronics?

this had been the main concern for peugeots not the engine or drive train actually. you will get sudden sensor error messages, and when its time to fix the sc don't have stock available

so it all boils down to the after sales service
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Electronics also have improved, but you know why many European cars have sensor problems right? Because they cram a lot of technology into their car due to safety & emission regulation in Europe. Some of these sensors die prematurely, so they need occasional replacement. But in return you have a car that is built as a result of stingent emission and safety regulation.

On the other hand, Japanese regulation are not as strict. Even more so Japanese cars that are sold in 3rd world countries, they remove all the sensors and cut on safety features. That is why you get the perception that Jap cars are more "reliable" and "less problematic". You have less things to spoil. Great, if you don't get into an accident. If you do, I'd take my chances being in an accident inside an European car than a Japanese car.

Japanese cars with more sensors and stuff, like the newer Civic, you'll tend to find that it is getting their fair share of complaints now. 1) because they got more sensors (finally caught up with Europe), 2) because they are very new in low pressure turbo engines. On the flip side, newer European cars finally got many of their troubles ironed out, and are becoming more stable now
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 25 2018, 11:23 AM)
1.6 category tapao all in its class oredi ..can test drive in showroom oredi ?
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Not too sure have to check, if the price is announced should be got test drive unit. But I heard many are already pre-booked.

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:26 AM)
Electronics also have improved, but you know why many European cars have sensor problems right? Because they cram a lot of technology into their car due to safety & emission regulation in Europe. Some of these sensors die prematurely, so they need occasional replacement. But in return you have a car that is built as a result of stingent emission and safety regulation.

On the other hand, Japanese regulation are not as strict. Even more so Japanese cars that are sold in 3rd world countries, they remove all the sensors and cut on safety features. That is why you get the perception that Jap cars are more "reliable" and "less problematic". You have less things to spoil. Great, if you don't get into an accident. If you do, I'd take my chances being in an accident inside an European car than a Japanese car.

Japanese cars with more sensors and stuff, like the newer Civic, you'll tend to find that it is getting their fair share of complaints now. 1) because they got more sensors (finally caught up with Europe), 2) because they are very new in low pressure turbo engines. On the flip side, newer European cars finally got many of their troubles ironed out, and are becoming more stable now
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As you can see now I drive lexus .
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:26 AM)
Electronics also have improved, but you know why many European cars have sensor problems right? Because they cram a lot of technology into their car due to safety & emission regulation in Europe. Some of these sensors die prematurely, so they need occasional replacement. But in return you have a car that is built as a result of stingent emission and safety regulation.

On the other hand, Japanese regulation are not as strict. Even more so Japanese cars that are sold in 3rd world countries, they remove all the sensors and cut on safety features. That is why you get the perception that Jap cars are more "reliable" and "less problematic". You have less things to spoil. Great, if you don't get into an accident. If you do, I'd take my chances being in an accident inside an European car than a Japanese car.

Japanese cars with more sensors and stuff, like the newer Civic, you'll tend to find that it is getting their fair share of complaints now. 1) because they got more sensors (finally caught up with Europe), 2) because they are very new in low pressure turbo engines. On the flip side, newer European cars finally got many of their troubles ironed out, and are becoming more stable now
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Just bring in the Hyundai i30N lah...
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 25 2018, 11:29 AM)
i go for the best of both worlds - Koreans
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The newer koreans are good, can't deny that. Really value for money, especially Kia.
But in terms of driving and handling pleasure, it would be hard to beat the europeans. That said, not everyone needs a good handling car. As long as it is built safe =D

QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:30 AM)
Hello Mr Peugeot sales man.
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I'm not a salesman, I'm an owner. Already driven 120k on my car. Definitely have minor problems, and there was a recall too to replace few auxilary components, but I never had engine issues.
Sensors will come and go, as mentioned above. But what I get in return is a freaking good drive, and a peace of mind that I'm inside a car that is developed to the most stringent safety requirements in europe.
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wait until you see schedule maintenance price for peugeot. minor maintenance (oil,filter) also cost almost 1k.
follow my friend to 10k service of her peugeot 408. look at the price and think wtf all so expensive.
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my friend bought 5008 peugeot so far ok no problem bring 6 passenger to genting  car alrdy half year
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No car would fail in first 6 month la come on
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QUOTE(sle7in @ Oct 25 2018, 11:35 AM)
wait until you see schedule maintenance price for peugeot. minor maintenance (oil,filter) also cost almost 1k.
follow my friend to 10k service of her peugeot 408. look at the price and think wtf all so expensive.
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Yes this is true, cost of maintenance is higher, usually for most continentals they are so. And they are very anal with you doing the maintenance as per schedule if not void warranty.
Engine and internals are designed to higher tolerance, require more maintenance. Plus with lower purchasing volume many importers cannot purchase in huge volume of spare parts, unlike the more established Japanese makes in Malaysia. This affects to cost as well as availability. Which is why sometimes it takes a while for stock to arrive. Issue of supply vs demand.

If cannot afford the cost of running, better to stick with local car or entry level Japanese models.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:33 AM)
The newer koreans are good, can't deny that. Really value for money, especially Kia.
But in terms of driving and handling pleasure, it would be hard to beat the europeans. That said, not everyone needs a good handling car. As long as it is built safe =D
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the latest models are already very close to europeans in terms to ride and handling. just go test drive an optima gt, if you can find a test drive unit lol

i personally drive a picanto, and I've driven a Polo before, not much difference in ride and handling, but maybe the latest gen on MQB platform will be better

Hyundai / Kia have a few ex European big names with them now - peter schreyer and albert biermann (ex BMW M division chief)


then there's the i30n, which many reviews regard it as the best hot hatch to replace the GTI
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It drove like a beast
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM)
Yes this is true, cost of maintenance is higher, usually for most continentals they are so. And they are very anal with you doing the maintenance as per schedule if not void warranty.
Engine and internals are designed to higher tolerance, require more maintenance. Plus with lower purchasing volume many importers cannot purchase in huge volume of spare parts, unlike the more established Japanese makes in Malaysia. This affects to cost as well as availability. Which is why sometimes it takes a while for stock to arrive. Issue of supply vs demand.

If cannot afford the cost of running, better to stick with local car or entry level Japanese models.
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yup. Minor maintenance also cost the same as major maintenance of my Civic at Honda SC, not outside workshop.
So nope. Better stick with Japs car. More reliable, less expensive.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM)
Yes this is true, cost of maintenance is higher, usually for most continentals they are so. And they are very anal with you doing the maintenance as per schedule if not void warranty.
Engine and internals are designed to higher tolerance, require more maintenance. Plus with lower purchasing volume many importers cannot purchase in huge volume of spare parts, unlike the more established Japanese makes in Malaysia. This affects to cost as well as availability. Which is why sometimes it takes a while for stock to arrive. Issue of supply vs demand.

If cannot afford the cost of running, better to stick with local car or entry level Japanese models.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM)
the latest models are already very close to europeans in terms to ride and handling. just go test drive an optima gt, if you can find a test drive unit lol

i personally drive a picanto, and I've driven a Polo before, not much difference in ride and handling, but maybe the latest gen on MQB platform will be better

Hyundai / Kia have a few ex European big names with them now - peter schreyer and albert biermann (ex BMW M division chief)
then there's the i30n, which many reviews regard it as the best hot hatch to replace the GTI
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Yes perhaps the newer and higher end models, as they are now using european designers and engineers in design. Entry level ones, when compared apple to apple still you will see some noticable gap.
Not dissing the Koreans because I think they have innovated way more than the complacent Japanese carmakers in the past 10 years. The Japs was happy with milking the world with their car which was great 20 years ago, but then they slacked. With the exception of Mazda, they are the only Japanese carmaker I'd consider buying. Great handling, good active safety features even 5 years ago (when Mazda Toyota Nissan didn't even bother).

I30n is an outlier. Really good car. They are definitely catching up.
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QUOTE(sle7in @ Oct 25 2018, 11:42 AM)
yup. Minor maintenance also cost the same as major maintenance of my Civic at Honda SC, not outside workshop.
So nope. Better stick with Japs car. More reliable, less expensive.
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More reliable, less expensive no doubt.
But if my loved one is fated to be in an accident bang by another car, I'll rather her be inside a continental car than a japanese car. Just ask those in workshop that has dismantled these cars down to their chassis and compared their designs and metal used.

Sometimes the value you get from a conti only comes when you don't want it to, such as when it protects you whilst in an accident.
For other cars, it may be too late to regret. Just ask many conti car owners who survived in an accident whilst being in their car. Conlanfirm they'll stick to being conti owners for life, even if they had to deal with low reliability or more expensive maintenance.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:48 AM)
More reliable, less expensive no doubt.
But if my loved one is fated to be in an accident bang by another car, I'll rather her be inside a continental car than a japanese car. Just ask those in workshop that has dismantled these cars down to their chassis and compared their designs and metal used.

Sometimes the value you get from a conti only comes when you don't want it to, such as when it protects you whilst in an accident.
For other cars, it may be too late to regret. Just ask many conti car owners who survived in an accident whilst being in their car. Conlanfirm they'll stick to being conti owners for life, even if they had to deal with low reliability or more expensive maintenance.
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Japanese car got so bad or not ?

You talk like as if Japun is as fragile as Viva.
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QUOTE(dman @ Oct 25 2018, 11:02 AM)
The supiak thing is the steering positioning blocking the gauges meter. Or probably stupiak gauges meter in the wrong position. lol

Lotsa reviewer complaining the unseen gauges meter.

The aircon control is on the infotainment touch screen which very dangerous to control while driving.

Other than that, it looks not bad just the shape too contemporary.
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More reliable, less expensive no doubt.
But if my loved one is fated to be in an accident bang by another car, I'll rather her be inside a continental car than a japanese car. Just ask those in workshop that has dismantled these cars down to their chassis and compared their designs and metal used.

Sometimes the value you get from a conti only comes when you don't want it to, such as when it protects you whilst in an accident.
For other cars, it may be too late to regret. Just ask many conti car owners who survived in an accident whilst being in their car. Conlanfirm they'll stick to being conti owners for life, even if they had to deal with low reliability or more expensive maintenance.
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Nevertheless, when the new 508 our shore I don't mind treading in my GTi for it.
Good car.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:52 AM)
Japanese car got so bad or not ?

You talk like as if Japun is as fragile as Viva.
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Try compare Vios vs 208 or Polo and see.
Chassis braces, metal thickness, overall lower in quality than an equivalent segment/priced conti car.

The reason conti cars are designed that way is because of their very strict regulation in europe.
Besides that, in Japan most of their high volume cars are all small kei cars, and people in japan drive very courteously, hardly get into major accidents. I've driven in Japan before, it makes sense why they dont need to overengineer the car.

QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:58 AM)
Safety level the newer Jap cars are good too.
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They are falling behind in the last 10 years, now they are trying to catch up back.
But it'll take time. I'll still feel safer behind a conti car than a jap car, especially in our country when the people here drive like nuts
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 12:05 PM)
Try compare Vios vs 208 or Polo and see.
Chassis braces, metal thickness, overall lower in quality than an equivalent segment/priced conti car.

The reason conti cars are designed that way is because of their very strict regulation in europe.
Besides that, in Japan most of their high volume cars are all small kei cars, and people in japan drive very courteously, hardly get into major accidents. I've driven in Japan before, it makes sense why they dont need to overengineer the car.
They are falling behind in the last 10 years, now they are trying to catch up back.
But it'll take time. I'll still feel safer behind a conti car than a jap car, especially in our country when the people here drive like nuts
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:59 AM)
Nevertheless, when the new 508 our shore I don't mind treading in my GTi for it.
Good car.
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RM200,000 for a 1.6 car?? Might as well buy a BMW for this price.
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But pug.. tested the 208 and thank God I didn't buy it
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Oklah, let's say the Prince engine already improve (cough)

The stupid fuel pump remains the same, the high pressure pump also same, intake also same, aircon coil, thermostat, Abs sensor, engine seals, a bigger more twin scroll pandan turbo, easy to break electronic blow off, short battery life, probably even the carbon built up and a whole lot of other parts that's not related directly to Prince engine also gets broken, fast.


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RM199,888
It's the cheapest car with 270hp in the market I believe
It drove like a beast IN WORKSHOP.
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QUOTE(azbro @ Oct 25 2018, 12:24 PM)
Oklah, let's say the Prince engine already improve (cough)

The stupid fuel pump remains the same, the high pressure pump also same, intake also same, aircon coil, thermostat, Abs sensor, engine seals, a bigger more twin scroll pandan turbo, easy to break electronic blow off, short battery life, probably even the carbon built up and a whole lot of other parts that's not related directly to Prince engine also gets broken, fast.
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High pressure pump
Air cond coil
Thermostat
Electronic diverter valve

The above undergone recall, changed to newer ones, haven't had an issue with them since. My car was extended another 2 year warranty also (now is 7 years, since 2014).

Turbo
Engine seals
ABS sensor
Carbon built up
Intake

Never had a problem, despite already 120k km. But I was advised to do de-carbo every 100k km for most direct injection engine.

Short battery life

This one is true, bloody european battery don't seem to last. Our constant heat maybe kills it faster.
Next time gonna try Amaron.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Oct 25 2018, 11:57 AM)
i-cockpit concept is to look at the gauge above the steering
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Yeah just back from One Utama looking at the real thing.

The gauges positioning quite high in the real car and once the steering adjusted lower i can see 80% of the gauges so not much of a problem.

The problem is the back seats. The legroom so freaking small once the front driver seat adjusted to my 172cm height.

Dunno why european like to make tight back seats than most jap car despite the guai lou height is much taller than asians. rclxub.gif



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RM200,000 for a 1.6 car?? Might as well buy a BMW for this price.
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So?

New facelift C200 is 1.5L. Around 260k ish


Why you murican mentality big cc better

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The power and torque is just a basic explanation on how fast the car will end up in the workshop, how fast Peugeot owners will rant and cry, and how fast the car value depreciate.
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What point when it may sit in the SC most of the time?
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QUOTE(dman @ Oct 25 2018, 01:46 PM)
Yeah just back from One Utama looking at the real thing.

The gauges positioning quite high in the real car and once the steering adjusted lower i can see 80% of the gauges so not much of a problem.

The problem is the back seats. The legroom so freaking small once the front driver seat adjusted to my 172cm height.

Dunno why european like to make tight back seats than most jap car despite the guai lou height is much taller than asians.  rclxub.gif
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They dont ferry 5 adults everywhere.

They rich.
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Value for money, quality finished

Good buy
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QUOTE(Salted Egg Fish Skin @ Oct 25 2018, 11:19 AM)
my sales man says pijot now improvement d..no more sit in sc long long
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see my reply above
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:22 AM)
Alot of their issues have been fixed mechanically. There is a reason why their recent 3008 sold like hot cakes. Good safety specs, good build quality, good interior, and much improved electronics & engine.
If you ask me, avoid their 308 T7 pre-facelift used units. Unless you got a great deal, then get a pre-2014 unit that has 7 years warranty.
The 308 T9 onwards on the other hand have been very reliable. I trust their turbo that has been iterated to death over the newer japanese turbos. The europeans are much more experience now with turbos than the japanese, because they have gone through their labour pains 5 year ago.
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It is not the problem of the car manufacturer, more into dealer - Naza issue on tackling after sales service.

My friend bought his 208 Tebu version, car cannot start and don't know what issue, tow into dealer workshop at PJ, diagnose 7 days and end up replacement of battery only, drive another 2 weeks then same problem occur, tow back to workshop again, the mechanic there blur blur don't know what is the root issue. What kind of mechanic they are hiring doh.gif

In the end have to rely on other workshop specialist to diagnose, within 1 day problem solve. Mind u the car is on the first year on the road. It just show how bad Naza train their staff.

My circle of friend only 2 bought Pijot car, both of them facing same issue on dealer after sales service. TBH Pijot should change the dealership lah, Naza is just way too horrible.

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QUOTE(Salted Egg Fish Skin @ Oct 25 2018, 11:19 AM)
my sales man says pijot now improvement d..no more sit in sc long long
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 25 2018, 02:42 PM)
U buy and let us know got improvement or not.
It is not the problem of the car manufacturer, more into dealer - Naza issue on tackling after sales service.

My friend bought his 208 Tebu version, car cannot start and don't know what issue, tow into dealer workshop at PJ, diagnose 7 days and end up replacement of battery only, drive another 2 weeks then same problem occur, tow back to workshop again, the mechanic there blur blur don't know what is the root issue. What kind of mechanic they are hiring doh.gif

In the end have to rely on other workshop specialist to diagnose, within 1 day problem solve. Mind u the car is on the first year on the road. It just show how bad Naza train their staff.

My circle of friend only 2 bought Pijot car, both of them facing same issue on dealer after sales service. TBH Pijot should change the dealership lah, Naza is just way too horrible.
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This one I can understand the frustration and agree. Nasim really need to step up because while on the manufacturing side has stepped up, the dealership still got improvements to make.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 04:05 PM)
This one I can understand the frustration and agree. Nasim really need to step up because while on the manufacturing side has stepped up, the dealership still got improvements to make.
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that's why u can't blame consumer on it, many of them are not car savvy type of person and rely on dealer workship to solve the problem.

Why they wanna spend 200k for Pijot, might as well top-up a bit and go for conti (BMW, Mercedes etc) for free service and warranty for 5 years.

My friend does modification and servicing on conti car and they are reluctant to do new car due to warranty issue, anything they touch later warranty cannot claim, customer will come back and blame him for it.


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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 25 2018, 04:15 PM)
that's why u can't blame consumer on it, many of them are not car savvy type of person and rely on dealer workship to solve the problem.

Why they wanna spend 200k for Pijot, might as well top-up a bit and go for conti (BMW, Mercedes etc) for free service and warranty for 5 years.

My friend does modification and servicing on conti car and they are reluctant to do new car due to warranty issue, anything they touch later warranty cannot claim, customer will come back and blame him for it.
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I'm not blaming the consumer, I can understand and emphatise actually. But at the same time I am clearing our misconceptions on where the blame should be placed.
Peugeot rightly gotten what they deserved because of the debacle of the 308 Turbo T9 pre-facelift, but since then they have been upping their efforts tremendously in order to not only learning from their mistakes to improve future models, they also undertook a huge recall effort as well as to spend more on extending warranties for their older cars. I think the efforts warrants some applaud, considering other manufacturers would just ignore the problem (I'm looking at you Ford).

On why they want to spend 200k for Peugeot vs other Contis? Personal perference. Each to their own, but value for money wise in terms of driving engagement and fun, I don't think you can find anything more fun for a 200k car than this. But if you say practicality? I'll recommend elsewhere.

On warranty issue, you'll need to emphatise with the manufacturers. They spend a lot of money when they replace a part under warranty, if the owner had it serviced outside and used non approved lubricants and then became a causing factor to a breakdown, it wouldn't be fair for the manufacturer to foot the bill when the fault lies with the non approved workshop right? Unlike engines of the past with low tolerances, low emission standards, and low efficiency, the newer more tightly tuned engines have less margin of error. A 2.0L engine churning out 120bhp with FC of 10L/100km made in 1998 will endure not being serviced regularly or using non approved lubricants as opposed to a 1.6L turbocharged engine churning out 270bhp with FC of 8.1L/100km.
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No matter what you guys say... there will always be people who mati mati will buy Piujot. They wont listen to you no matter how many valid points you tell them about how teruk this car is..... BUT they will STILL ask you what you think about Piujot! Hahaha.....really saw high people.
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 25 2018, 01:54 PM)
The power and torque is just a basic explanation on how fast the car will end up in the workshop, how fast Peugeot owners will rant and cry, and how fast the car value depreciate.
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this +999, 1.6L pushing out 270hp is just too much, the strain on the turbo n engine will be very high, very likely those things will spoil after some time driving this car
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 04:40 PM)
I'm not blaming the consumer, I can understand and emphatise actually. But at the same time I am clearing our misconceptions on where the blame should be placed.
Peugeot rightly gotten what they deserved because of the debacle of the 308 Turbo T9 pre-facelift, but since then they have been upping their efforts tremendously in order to not only learning from their mistakes to improve future models, they also undertook a huge recall effort as well as to spend more on extending warranties for their older cars. I think the efforts warrants some applaud, considering other manufacturers would just ignore the problem (I'm looking at you Ford).

On why they want to spend 200k for Peugeot vs other Contis? Personal perference. Each to their own, but value for money wise in terms of driving engagement and fun, I don't think you can find anything more fun for a 200k car than this. But if you say practicality? I'll recommend elsewhere.

On warranty issue, you'll need to emphatise with the manufacturers. They spend a lot of money when they replace a part under warranty, if the owner had it serviced outside and used non approved lubricants and then became a causing factor to a breakdown, it wouldn't be fair for the manufacturer to foot the bill when the fault lies with the non approved workshop right? Unlike engines of the past with low tolerances, low emission standards, and low efficiency, the newer more tightly tuned engines have less margin of error. A 2.0L engine churning out 120bhp with FC of 10L/100km made in 1998 will endure not being serviced regularly or using non approved lubricants as opposed to a 1.6L turbocharged engine churning out 270bhp with FC of 8.1L/100km.
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In terms of engineering,
Continental cars are not made to last over 5years.
Many electronic parts, sensors, even plastic parts will start to wear & crack under our hot weather. (Even US insurance reports came out stating European cars have higher maintenance than japanese cars)

German manufacturers have started their "planned obsolescence", this period is about 5years where after 5years many things will fail because lifespan is there. See how many BMW get dumped right after warranty period ??
Those 20+ year old Merc has higher reliability than newer ones. Cuz they sell luxury than reliability

Japanese cars sell reliability and longer lifespan. German sells luxury and fun to drive cars.


In terms of regulations
1. At first world countries like USA, some car manufacturers will get class action suit if their cars have problems like Peugeot or VW DSG issue will get sued by buyers.

2. The other law is called lemon law, if your car frequently have consistent problems that cannot be fixed, then they have to buy back your unit.

3. Spare parts law means manufacturers have to make their parts available after warranty period for you to repair it. Diagnostic tools must be readily available outside too. In essense, no monopoly over parts, diagnostic

On safety part I think consumers should push government to force manufacturers to put in more safety features.
It's not Japanese cars are not safe, it's the government ruling that doesn't make them compulsory to follow certain standards.
Therefore those standards became a premium features rather than basic requirements. If compared same price range of course Japanese car give same features as continental cars

No point try to defend the brand of the car you are driving, press them back to make them do better. Brand loyalty doesn't do consumers any good.

No matter what the sales agent try to sugar coat it, that's the truth.
Accidents DATA can be found on insurance data especially on US.

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QUOTE(sle7in @ Oct 25 2018, 12:35 PM)
wait until you see schedule maintenance price for peugeot. minor maintenance (oil,filter) also cost almost 1k.
follow my friend to 10k service of her peugeot 408. look at the price and think wtf all so expensive.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 01:40 PM)
High pressure pump
Air cond coil
Thermostat
Electronic diverter valve

The above undergone recall, changed to newer ones, haven't had an issue with them since. My car was extended another 2 year warranty also (now is 7 years, since 2014).

Turbo
Engine seals
ABS sensor
Carbon built up
Intake

Never had a problem, despite already 120k km. But I was advised to do de-carbo every 100k km for most direct injection engine.

Short battery life

This one is true, bloody european battery don't seem to last. Our constant heat maybe kills it faster.
Next time gonna try Amaron.
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Hi, I believe you have gone through it all with Pug. But may I know when you had the last recall for all the above.

I had the air-cond compressor issue needing replacement and the AT issue on depollution error for my previous 308 THP. Gave up & sold it off after 3++ years in 2013. Seriously looking into the new 3008 Allure.....as both me & my wife agrees, that Pug still the best car we ever drove (we have or had Proton, Perodua, Nissan, Honda & Kia for the last 20 years mind you). So I hope Peugeot or rather NAZA have resolved all of those issue you mentioned & also the ones I had experienced......give your frank feedback if some still not. Thanks.

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So I hope Peugeot or rather NAZA have resolved all of those issue you mentioned & also the ones I had experienced......give your frank feedback if some still not. Thanks.
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QUOTE(achol77 @ Oct 27 2018, 02:45 PM)
Hi, I believe you have gone through it all with Pug. But may I know when you had the last recall for all the above.

I had the air-cond compressor issue needing replacement and the AT issue on depollution error for my previous 308 THP. Gave up & sold it off after 3++ years in 2013. Seriously looking into the new 3008 Allure.....as both me & my wife agrees, that Pug still the best car we ever drove (we have or had Proton, Perodua, Nissan, Honda & Kia for the last 20 years mind you). So I hope Peugeot or rather NAZA have resolved all of those issue you mentioned & also the ones I had experienced......give your frank feedback if some still not. Thanks.
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RM199,888
It's the cheapest car with 270hp in the market I believe
It drove like a beast
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Precisely correct... It drove like a beast... Now it's in workshop. Lol.
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QUOTE(sle7in @ Oct 25 2018, 11:42 AM)
yup. Minor maintenance also cost the same as major maintenance of my Civic at Honda SC, not outside workshop.
So nope. Better stick with Japs car. More reliable, less expensive.
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post Oct 28 2018, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(achol77 @ Oct 27 2018, 02:45 PM)
Hi, I believe you have gone through it all with Pug. But may I know when you had the last recall for all the above.

I had the air-cond compressor issue needing replacement and the AT issue on depollution error for my previous 308 THP. Gave up & sold it off after 3++ years in 2013. Seriously looking into the new 3008 Allure.....as both me & my wife agrees, that Pug still the best car we ever drove (we have or had Proton, Perodua, Nissan, Honda & Kia for the last 20 years mind you). So I hope Peugeot or rather NAZA have resolved all of those issue you mentioned & also the ones I had experienced......give your frank feedback if some still not. Thanks.
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Just drive around glenmarie peugeot SC, can see it is still so full until they have to park outside
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post Oct 28 2018, 12:09 PM

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post Oct 28 2018, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Oct 25 2018, 11:01 AM)
my friend bought 5008 peugeot so far ok no problem bring 6 passenger to genting  car alrdy half year
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U mean car is just half year.. half year is very new man.
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post Oct 28 2018, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 28 2018, 12:12 PM)
U mean car is just half year.. half year is very new man.
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I think his friend is a big liar.
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post Oct 28 2018, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 28 2018, 12:23 PM)
I think his friend is a big liar.
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When he tell me he keep u on smiling last thung he say touchwood so far everything ok
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post Oct 28 2018, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Oct 28 2018, 12:32 PM)
When he tell me he keep u on smiling last thung he say touchwood so far everything ok
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Fake smile
Inside him is actually worries. All the time keep his eyes on the dashboard for why winning lights or Kwan sooi warning.


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post Oct 28 2018, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 28 2018, 12:09 PM)
High fuel pump kaput before 2 years of ownership.
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this. to buy Peugeot..u really have to love car and mod them for better effect and pleasure..

else stay away from them..coz in 2 years of speed driving..the car will have high % break down.

Europe cars are meant to last 5-6 years in cold weather..

put it in Malaysia humid weather..it will last half the tenure with excessive speeding..wats the point u buy this car to be a safe driver..?..
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post Oct 29 2018, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(achol77 @ Oct 27 2018, 02:45 PM)
Hi, I believe you have gone through it all with Pug. But may I know when you had the last recall for all the above.

I had the air-cond compressor issue needing replacement and the AT issue on depollution error for my previous 308 THP. Gave up & sold it off after 3++ years in 2013. Seriously looking into the new 3008 Allure.....as both me & my wife agrees, that Pug still the best car we ever drove (we have or had Proton, Perodua, Nissan, Honda & Kia for the last 20 years mind you). So I hope Peugeot or rather NAZA have resolved all of those issue you mentioned & also the ones I had experienced......give your frank feedback if some still not. Thanks.
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I personally have no experience owner the 3008, but from what I have gathered from users as well as technical centers, all car after the 308 e-THP (which is the T9) have much lesser problems than it's predecessors.

The 3008 itself was stressed driven 100k km in 4 months in Malaysia prior to it's launch here and without major problem
I've known at least 4 people personally that owns the car at various age since launch, all had no problems, and all are previous Peugeot owners
Of all the cars, the 3008 is the one I am most confident with.

That said, Nasim still has work to do, so you may need to bear with them till they improve. They are putting work into it, and with PSA now in Malaysia, Nasim will be under monitor closer than before
But personally I find the 3008's handling and interior design is way above what is available in the market now, for the price paid.
If I'm not mistaken it also is Peugeot's best selling car at the moment, for good reasons.

This post has been edited by daijoubu: Oct 29 2018, 09:28 AM
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post Oct 29 2018, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Oct 25 2018, 11:01 AM)
my friend bought 5008 peugeot so far ok no problem bring 6 passenger to genting  car alrdy half year
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Half year. My friend's 15-year old Japanese MPV also went up numerous times to Genting, with full load.

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