If you shift quick enough, the 308 GTI can complete the century sprint in 6 seconds flat.
https://www.carlist.my/news/all-new-peugeot...p-330-nm/53149/

All-New Peugeot 308 GTI; 270 HP, 330 NM, Century sprint in 6 seconds; Manual News
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Powering the Golf GTI-rival from France is a 1.6-litre turbocharged Prince engine that outputs a whopping 270 hp and 330 Nm, sent to the front wheels via a 6-speed manual.
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1.6 270hp is quite impressive...how much is this beast ?
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208 GTI for me.. smaller more nimble and affordable.. *just that don't trust Naza in after sales...
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my friend bought 5008 peugeot so far ok no problem bring 6 passenger to genting car alrdy half year
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The supiak thing is the steering positioning blocking the gauges meter. Or probably stupiak gauges meter in the wrong position. lol
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Although Peugeot has it's issues, still not as legendary as Volkswagen
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hmmmmmm I really concern about this brand robustness, will stay away from this brand until at least many good feedback turn out
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Will wait for used unit. >RM100k
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Oct 25 2018, 10:59 AM) The 208 GTi is slightly more nimble for tighter tracks, but the 308 GTi is a beast when it comes to power and grip. LSD really changes everythingQUOTE(dman @ Oct 25 2018, 11:02 AM) The supiak thing is the steering positioning blocking the gauges meter. Or probably stupiak gauges meter in the wrong position. lol Actually that is because they don't change the steering height. After driving in a car with this steering and gauge, I find any other steering cumbersome and large. It's so much more natural to have the steering lower.Lotsa reviewer complaining the unseen gauges meter. The aircon control is on the infotainment touch screen which very dangerous to control while driving. Other than that, it looks not bad just the shape too contemporary. QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Oct 25 2018, 11:04 AM) hmmmmmm I really concern about this brand robustness, will stay away from this brand until at least many good feedback turn out The newer engines since 308 T9 have been much more reliable. It's the same engine line that has been iterated many times to remove all the problems of the past. It's practically a totally different engine compared to the older 308 which had huge issues when first launched. |
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Pijot dealer in Malaysia is no.1 from behind, even VW also lose to them
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 25 2018, 11:17 AM) Pijot dealer in Malaysia is no.1 from behind, even VW also lose to them Alot of their issues have been fixed mechanically. There is a reason why their recent 3008 sold like hot cakes. Good safety specs, good build quality, good interior, and much improved electronics & engine.Before u buy, better think over 9000 times. Don't later buy, spend half the time parking at workshop If you ask me, avoid their 308 T7 pre-facelift used units. Unless you got a great deal, then get a pre-2014 unit that has 7 years warranty. The 308 T9 onwards on the other hand have been very reliable. I trust their turbo that has been iterated to death over the newer japanese turbos. The europeans are much more experience now with turbos than the japanese, because they have gone through their labour pains 5 year ago. |
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:12 AM) The newer engines since 308 T9 have been much more reliable. It's the same engine line that has been iterated many times to remove all the problems of the past. engines improved but what about the electronics? It's practically a totally different engine compared to the older 308 which had huge issues when first launched. this had been the main concern for peugeots not the engine or drive train actually. you will get sudden sensor error messages, and when its time to fix the sc don't have stock available so it all boils down to the after sales service |
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 25 2018, 11:22 AM) engines improved but what about the electronics? Electronics also have improved, but you know why many European cars have sensor problems right? Because they cram a lot of technology into their car due to safety & emission regulation in Europe. Some of these sensors die prematurely, so they need occasional replacement. But in return you have a car that is built as a result of stingent emission and safety regulation.this had been the main concern for peugeots not the engine or drive train actually. you will get sudden sensor error messages, and when its time to fix the sc don't have stock available so it all boils down to the after sales service On the other hand, Japanese regulation are not as strict. Even more so Japanese cars that are sold in 3rd world countries, they remove all the sensors and cut on safety features. That is why you get the perception that Jap cars are more "reliable" and "less problematic". You have less things to spoil. Great, if you don't get into an accident. If you do, I'd take my chances being in an accident inside an European car than a Japanese car. Japanese cars with more sensors and stuff, like the newer Civic, you'll tend to find that it is getting their fair share of complaints now. 1) because they got more sensors (finally caught up with Europe), 2) because they are very new in low pressure turbo engines. On the flip side, newer European cars finally got many of their troubles ironed out, and are becoming more stable now |
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:26 AM) Electronics also have improved, but you know why many European cars have sensor problems right? Because they cram a lot of technology into their car due to safety & emission regulation in Europe. Some of these sensors die prematurely, so they need occasional replacement. But in return you have a car that is built as a result of stingent emission and safety regulation. i go for the best of both worlds - KoreansOn the other hand, Japanese regulation are not as strict. Even more so Japanese cars that are sold in 3rd world countries, they remove all the sensors and cut on safety features. That is why you get the perception that Jap cars are more "reliable" and "less problematic". You have less things to spoil. Great, if you don't get into an accident. If you do, I'd take my chances being in an accident inside an European car than a Japanese car. Japanese cars with more sensors and stuff, like the newer Civic, you'll tend to find that it is getting their fair share of complaints now. 1) because they got more sensors (finally caught up with Europe), 2) because they are very new in low pressure turbo engines. On the flip side, newer European cars finally got many of their troubles ironed out, and are becoming more stable now |
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:26 AM) Electronics also have improved, but you know why many European cars have sensor problems right? Because they cram a lot of technology into their car due to safety & emission regulation in Europe. Some of these sensors die prematurely, so they need occasional replacement. But in return you have a car that is built as a result of stingent emission and safety regulation. Hello Mr Peugeot sales man.On the other hand, Japanese regulation are not as strict. Even more so Japanese cars that are sold in 3rd world countries, they remove all the sensors and cut on safety features. That is why you get the perception that Jap cars are more "reliable" and "less problematic". You have less things to spoil. Great, if you don't get into an accident. If you do, I'd take my chances being in an accident inside an European car than a Japanese car. Japanese cars with more sensors and stuff, like the newer Civic, you'll tend to find that it is getting their fair share of complaints now. 1) because they got more sensors (finally caught up with Europe), 2) because they are very new in low pressure turbo engines. On the flip side, newer European cars finally got many of their troubles ironed out, and are becoming more stable now |
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 25 2018, 11:29 AM) The newer koreans are good, can't deny that. Really value for money, especially Kia.But in terms of driving and handling pleasure, it would be hard to beat the europeans. That said, not everyone needs a good handling car. As long as it is built safe =D QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:30 AM) I'm not a salesman, I'm an owner. Already driven 120k on my car. Definitely have minor problems, and there was a recall too to replace few auxilary components, but I never had engine issues. Sensors will come and go, as mentioned above. But what I get in return is a freaking good drive, and a peace of mind that I'm inside a car that is developed to the most stringent safety requirements in europe. |
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QUOTE(sle7in @ Oct 25 2018, 11:35 AM) wait until you see schedule maintenance price for peugeot. minor maintenance (oil,filter) also cost almost 1k. Yes this is true, cost of maintenance is higher, usually for most continentals they are so. And they are very anal with you doing the maintenance as per schedule if not void warranty.follow my friend to 10k service of her peugeot 408. look at the price and think wtf all so expensive. Engine and internals are designed to higher tolerance, require more maintenance. Plus with lower purchasing volume many importers cannot purchase in huge volume of spare parts, unlike the more established Japanese makes in Malaysia. This affects to cost as well as availability. Which is why sometimes it takes a while for stock to arrive. Issue of supply vs demand. If cannot afford the cost of running, better to stick with local car or entry level Japanese models. |
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:33 AM) The newer koreans are good, can't deny that. Really value for money, especially Kia. the latest models are already very close to europeans in terms to ride and handling. just go test drive an optima gt, if you can find a test drive unit lolBut in terms of driving and handling pleasure, it would be hard to beat the europeans. That said, not everyone needs a good handling car. As long as it is built safe =D i personally drive a picanto, and I've driven a Polo before, not much difference in ride and handling, but maybe the latest gen on MQB platform will be better Hyundai / Kia have a few ex European big names with them now - peter schreyer and albert biermann (ex BMW M division chief) then there's the i30n, which many reviews regard it as the best hot hatch to replace the GTI |
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM) Yes this is true, cost of maintenance is higher, usually for most continentals they are so. And they are very anal with you doing the maintenance as per schedule if not void warranty. yup. Minor maintenance also cost the same as major maintenance of my Civic at Honda SC, not outside workshop.Engine and internals are designed to higher tolerance, require more maintenance. Plus with lower purchasing volume many importers cannot purchase in huge volume of spare parts, unlike the more established Japanese makes in Malaysia. This affects to cost as well as availability. Which is why sometimes it takes a while for stock to arrive. Issue of supply vs demand. If cannot afford the cost of running, better to stick with local car or entry level Japanese models. So nope. Better stick with Japs car. More reliable, less expensive. |
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM) Yes this is true, cost of maintenance is higher, usually for most continentals they are so. And they are very anal with you doing the maintenance as per schedule if not void warranty. +999Engine and internals are designed to higher tolerance, require more maintenance. Plus with lower purchasing volume many importers cannot purchase in huge volume of spare parts, unlike the more established Japanese makes in Malaysia. This affects to cost as well as availability. Which is why sometimes it takes a while for stock to arrive. Issue of supply vs demand. If cannot afford the cost of running, better to stick with local car or entry level Japanese models. |
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM) the latest models are already very close to europeans in terms to ride and handling. just go test drive an optima gt, if you can find a test drive unit lol Yes perhaps the newer and higher end models, as they are now using european designers and engineers in design. Entry level ones, when compared apple to apple still you will see some noticable gap.i personally drive a picanto, and I've driven a Polo before, not much difference in ride and handling, but maybe the latest gen on MQB platform will be better Hyundai / Kia have a few ex European big names with them now - peter schreyer and albert biermann (ex BMW M division chief) then there's the i30n, which many reviews regard it as the best hot hatch to replace the GTI Not dissing the Koreans because I think they have innovated way more than the complacent Japanese carmakers in the past 10 years. The Japs was happy with milking the world with their car which was great 20 years ago, but then they slacked. With the exception of Mazda, they are the only Japanese carmaker I'd consider buying. Great handling, good active safety features even 5 years ago (when Mazda Toyota Nissan didn't even bother). I30n is an outlier. Really good car. They are definitely catching up. |
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QUOTE(sle7in @ Oct 25 2018, 11:42 AM) yup. Minor maintenance also cost the same as major maintenance of my Civic at Honda SC, not outside workshop. More reliable, less expensive no doubt.So nope. Better stick with Japs car. More reliable, less expensive. But if my loved one is fated to be in an accident bang by another car, I'll rather her be inside a continental car than a japanese car. Just ask those in workshop that has dismantled these cars down to their chassis and compared their designs and metal used. Sometimes the value you get from a conti only comes when you don't want it to, such as when it protects you whilst in an accident. For other cars, it may be too late to regret. Just ask many conti car owners who survived in an accident whilst being in their car. Conlanfirm they'll stick to being conti owners for life, even if they had to deal with low reliability or more expensive maintenance. |
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:48 AM) More reliable, less expensive no doubt. Japanese car got so bad or not ?But if my loved one is fated to be in an accident bang by another car, I'll rather her be inside a continental car than a japanese car. Just ask those in workshop that has dismantled these cars down to their chassis and compared their designs and metal used. Sometimes the value you get from a conti only comes when you don't want it to, such as when it protects you whilst in an accident. For other cars, it may be too late to regret. Just ask many conti car owners who survived in an accident whilst being in their car. Conlanfirm they'll stick to being conti owners for life, even if they had to deal with low reliability or more expensive maintenance. You talk like as if Japun is as fragile as Viva. |
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QUOTE(dman @ Oct 25 2018, 11:02 AM) The supiak thing is the steering positioning blocking the gauges meter. Or probably stupiak gauges meter in the wrong position. lol i-cockpit concept is to look at the gauge above the steeringLotsa reviewer complaining the unseen gauges meter. The aircon control is on the infotainment touch screen which very dangerous to control while driving. Other than that, it looks not bad just the shape too contemporary. |
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:48 AM) More reliable, less expensive no doubt. Safety level the newer Jap cars are good too.But if my loved one is fated to be in an accident bang by another car, I'll rather her be inside a continental car than a japanese car. Just ask those in workshop that has dismantled these cars down to their chassis and compared their designs and metal used. Sometimes the value you get from a conti only comes when you don't want it to, such as when it protects you whilst in an accident. For other cars, it may be too late to regret. Just ask many conti car owners who survived in an accident whilst being in their car. Conlanfirm they'll stick to being conti owners for life, even if they had to deal with low reliability or more expensive maintenance. |
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:52 AM) Try compare Vios vs 208 or Polo and see. Chassis braces, metal thickness, overall lower in quality than an equivalent segment/priced conti car. The reason conti cars are designed that way is because of their very strict regulation in europe. Besides that, in Japan most of their high volume cars are all small kei cars, and people in japan drive very courteously, hardly get into major accidents. I've driven in Japan before, it makes sense why they dont need to overengineer the car. QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:58 AM) They are falling behind in the last 10 years, now they are trying to catch up back.But it'll take time. I'll still feel safer behind a conti car than a jap car, especially in our country when the people here drive like nuts |
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 12:05 PM) Try compare Vios vs 208 or Polo and see. But getting stranded by the roadside or highway, at night waiting for tow truck is not safe.Chassis braces, metal thickness, overall lower in quality than an equivalent segment/priced conti car. The reason conti cars are designed that way is because of their very strict regulation in europe. Besides that, in Japan most of their high volume cars are all small kei cars, and people in japan drive very courteously, hardly get into major accidents. I've driven in Japan before, it makes sense why they dont need to overengineer the car. They are falling behind in the last 10 years, now they are trying to catch up back. But it'll take time. I'll still feel safer behind a conti car than a jap car, especially in our country when the people here drive like nuts |
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Oklah, let's say the Prince engine already improve (cough)
The stupid fuel pump remains the same, the high pressure pump also same, intake also same, aircon coil, thermostat, Abs sensor, engine seals, a bigger more twin scroll pandan turbo, easy to break electronic blow off, short battery life, probably even the carbon built up and a whole lot of other parts that's not related directly to Prince engine also gets broken, fast. |
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but 80km hours i oredi feel fast
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Oct 25 2018, 12:42 PM
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If I got this budget, I would get a recon FK2R.
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QUOTE(azbro @ Oct 25 2018, 12:24 PM) Oklah, let's say the Prince engine already improve (cough) High pressure pumpThe stupid fuel pump remains the same, the high pressure pump also same, intake also same, aircon coil, thermostat, Abs sensor, engine seals, a bigger more twin scroll pandan turbo, easy to break electronic blow off, short battery life, probably even the carbon built up and a whole lot of other parts that's not related directly to Prince engine also gets broken, fast. Air cond coil Thermostat Electronic diverter valve The above undergone recall, changed to newer ones, haven't had an issue with them since. My car was extended another 2 year warranty also (now is 7 years, since 2014). Turbo Engine seals ABS sensor Carbon built up Intake Never had a problem, despite already 120k km. But I was advised to do de-carbo every 100k km for most direct injection engine. Short battery life This one is true, bloody european battery don't seem to last. Our constant heat maybe kills it faster. Next time gonna try Amaron. |
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after u sprint 6s je
straight masuk SC cuz fuel sensor kaput |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Oct 25 2018, 11:57 AM) Yeah just back from One Utama looking at the real thing.The gauges positioning quite high in the real car and once the steering adjusted lower i can see 80% of the gauges so not much of a problem. The problem is the back seats. The legroom so freaking small once the front driver seat adjusted to my 172cm height. Dunno why european like to make tight back seats than most jap car despite the guai lou height is much taller than asians. |
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The power and torque is just a basic explanation on how fast the car will end up in the workshop, how fast Peugeot owners will rant and cry, and how fast the car value depreciate.
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Oct 25 2018, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(dman @ Oct 25 2018, 01:46 PM) Yeah just back from One Utama looking at the real thing. They dont ferry 5 adults everywhere.The gauges positioning quite high in the real car and once the steering adjusted lower i can see 80% of the gauges so not much of a problem. The problem is the back seats. The legroom so freaking small once the front driver seat adjusted to my 172cm height. Dunno why european like to make tight back seats than most jap car despite the guai lou height is much taller than asians. They rich. |
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Oct 25 2018, 02:20 PM
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Value for money, quality finished
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QUOTE(Salted Egg Fish Skin @ Oct 25 2018, 11:19 AM) QUOTE(Salted Egg Fish Skin @ Oct 25 2018, 11:20 AM) U buy and let us know got improvement or not.QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:22 AM) Alot of their issues have been fixed mechanically. There is a reason why their recent 3008 sold like hot cakes. Good safety specs, good build quality, good interior, and much improved electronics & engine. It is not the problem of the car manufacturer, more into dealer - Naza issue on tackling after sales service. If you ask me, avoid their 308 T7 pre-facelift used units. Unless you got a great deal, then get a pre-2014 unit that has 7 years warranty. The 308 T9 onwards on the other hand have been very reliable. I trust their turbo that has been iterated to death over the newer japanese turbos. The europeans are much more experience now with turbos than the japanese, because they have gone through their labour pains 5 year ago. My friend bought his 208 Tebu version, car cannot start and don't know what issue, tow into dealer workshop at PJ, diagnose 7 days and end up replacement of battery only, drive another 2 weeks then same problem occur, tow back to workshop again, the mechanic there blur blur don't know what is the root issue. What kind of mechanic they are hiring In the end have to rely on other workshop specialist to diagnose, within 1 day problem solve. Mind u the car is on the first year on the road. It just show how bad Naza train their staff. My circle of friend only 2 bought Pijot car, both of them facing same issue on dealer after sales service. TBH Pijot should change the dealership lah, Naza is just way too horrible. This post has been edited by yhtan: Oct 25 2018, 02:49 PM |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 25 2018, 02:42 PM) U buy and let us know got improvement or not. This one I can understand the frustration and agree. Nasim really need to step up because while on the manufacturing side has stepped up, the dealership still got improvements to make.It is not the problem of the car manufacturer, more into dealer - Naza issue on tackling after sales service. My friend bought his 208 Tebu version, car cannot start and don't know what issue, tow into dealer workshop at PJ, diagnose 7 days and end up replacement of battery only, drive another 2 weeks then same problem occur, tow back to workshop again, the mechanic there blur blur don't know what is the root issue. What kind of mechanic they are hiring In the end have to rely on other workshop specialist to diagnose, within 1 day problem solve. Mind u the car is on the first year on the road. It just show how bad Naza train their staff. My circle of friend only 2 bought Pijot car, both of them facing same issue on dealer after sales service. TBH Pijot should change the dealership lah, Naza is just way too horrible. |
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 04:05 PM) This one I can understand the frustration and agree. Nasim really need to step up because while on the manufacturing side has stepped up, the dealership still got improvements to make. that's why u can't blame consumer on it, many of them are not car savvy type of person and rely on dealer workship to solve the problem. Why they wanna spend 200k for Pijot, might as well top-up a bit and go for conti (BMW, Mercedes etc) for free service and warranty for 5 years. My friend does modification and servicing on conti car and they are reluctant to do new car due to warranty issue, anything they touch later warranty cannot claim, customer will come back and blame him for it. |
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Oct 25 2018, 04:22 PM
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Citroen ds range ok mou, especially the crossback 3 and 5
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 25 2018, 04:15 PM) that's why u can't blame consumer on it, many of them are not car savvy type of person and rely on dealer workship to solve the problem. I'm not blaming the consumer, I can understand and emphatise actually. But at the same time I am clearing our misconceptions on where the blame should be placed.Why they wanna spend 200k for Pijot, might as well top-up a bit and go for conti (BMW, Mercedes etc) for free service and warranty for 5 years. My friend does modification and servicing on conti car and they are reluctant to do new car due to warranty issue, anything they touch later warranty cannot claim, customer will come back and blame him for it. Peugeot rightly gotten what they deserved because of the debacle of the 308 Turbo T9 pre-facelift, but since then they have been upping their efforts tremendously in order to not only learning from their mistakes to improve future models, they also undertook a huge recall effort as well as to spend more on extending warranties for their older cars. I think the efforts warrants some applaud, considering other manufacturers would just ignore the problem (I'm looking at you Ford). On why they want to spend 200k for Peugeot vs other Contis? Personal perference. Each to their own, but value for money wise in terms of driving engagement and fun, I don't think you can find anything more fun for a 200k car than this. But if you say practicality? I'll recommend elsewhere. On warranty issue, you'll need to emphatise with the manufacturers. They spend a lot of money when they replace a part under warranty, if the owner had it serviced outside and used non approved lubricants and then became a causing factor to a breakdown, it wouldn't be fair for the manufacturer to foot the bill when the fault lies with the non approved workshop right? Unlike engines of the past with low tolerances, low emission standards, and low efficiency, the newer more tightly tuned engines have less margin of error. A 2.0L engine churning out 120bhp with FC of 10L/100km made in 1998 will endure not being serviced regularly or using non approved lubricants as opposed to a 1.6L turbocharged engine churning out 270bhp with FC of 8.1L/100km. |
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No matter what you guys say... there will always be people who mati mati will buy Piujot. They wont listen to you no matter how many valid points you tell them about how teruk this car is..... BUT they will STILL ask you what you think about Piujot! Hahaha.....really saw high people.
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nope nope nope godzilla jpg
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i want myvi gti !!!!
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 25 2018, 01:54 PM) The power and torque is just a basic explanation on how fast the car will end up in the workshop, how fast Peugeot owners will rant and cry, and how fast the car value depreciate. this +999, 1.6L pushing out 270hp is just too much, the strain on the turbo n engine will be very high, very likely those things will spoil after some time driving this car |
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Oct 25 2018, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 04:40 PM) I'm not blaming the consumer, I can understand and emphatise actually. But at the same time I am clearing our misconceptions on where the blame should be placed. In terms of engineering, Peugeot rightly gotten what they deserved because of the debacle of the 308 Turbo T9 pre-facelift, but since then they have been upping their efforts tremendously in order to not only learning from their mistakes to improve future models, they also undertook a huge recall effort as well as to spend more on extending warranties for their older cars. I think the efforts warrants some applaud, considering other manufacturers would just ignore the problem (I'm looking at you Ford). On why they want to spend 200k for Peugeot vs other Contis? Personal perference. Each to their own, but value for money wise in terms of driving engagement and fun, I don't think you can find anything more fun for a 200k car than this. But if you say practicality? I'll recommend elsewhere. On warranty issue, you'll need to emphatise with the manufacturers. They spend a lot of money when they replace a part under warranty, if the owner had it serviced outside and used non approved lubricants and then became a causing factor to a breakdown, it wouldn't be fair for the manufacturer to foot the bill when the fault lies with the non approved workshop right? Unlike engines of the past with low tolerances, low emission standards, and low efficiency, the newer more tightly tuned engines have less margin of error. A 2.0L engine churning out 120bhp with FC of 10L/100km made in 1998 will endure not being serviced regularly or using non approved lubricants as opposed to a 1.6L turbocharged engine churning out 270bhp with FC of 8.1L/100km. Continental cars are not made to last over 5years. Many electronic parts, sensors, even plastic parts will start to wear & crack under our hot weather. (Even US insurance reports came out stating European cars have higher maintenance than japanese cars) German manufacturers have started their "planned obsolescence", this period is about 5years where after 5years many things will fail because lifespan is there. See how many BMW get dumped right after warranty period ?? Those 20+ year old Merc has higher reliability than newer ones. Cuz they sell luxury than reliability Japanese cars sell reliability and longer lifespan. German sells luxury and fun to drive cars. In terms of regulations 1. At first world countries like USA, some car manufacturers will get class action suit if their cars have problems like Peugeot or VW DSG issue will get sued by buyers. 2. The other law is called lemon law, if your car frequently have consistent problems that cannot be fixed, then they have to buy back your unit. 3. Spare parts law means manufacturers have to make their parts available after warranty period for you to repair it. Diagnostic tools must be readily available outside too. In essense, no monopoly over parts, diagnostic On safety part I think consumers should push government to force manufacturers to put in more safety features. It's not Japanese cars are not safe, it's the government ruling that doesn't make them compulsory to follow certain standards. Therefore those standards became a premium features rather than basic requirements. If compared same price range of course Japanese car give same features as continental cars No point try to defend the brand of the car you are driving, press them back to make them do better. Brand loyalty doesn't do consumers any good. No matter what the sales agent try to sugar coat it, that's the truth. Accidents DATA can be found on insurance data especially on US. This post has been edited by AllnGap: Oct 25 2018, 06:13 PM |
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6 seconds of thrill
6 months of workshop repair |
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306 GTI-6 > all
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Oct 25 2018, 08:16 PM
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french and italian cars always very nice to look at, very attractive to me
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this car buy how long will sit in workshop
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Oct 26 2018, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 01:40 PM) High pressure pump Hi, I believe you have gone through it all with Pug. But may I know when you had the last recall for all the above.Air cond coil Thermostat Electronic diverter valve The above undergone recall, changed to newer ones, haven't had an issue with them since. My car was extended another 2 year warranty also (now is 7 years, since 2014). Turbo Engine seals ABS sensor Carbon built up Intake Never had a problem, despite already 120k km. But I was advised to do de-carbo every 100k km for most direct injection engine. Short battery life This one is true, bloody european battery don't seem to last. Our constant heat maybe kills it faster. Next time gonna try Amaron. I had the air-cond compressor issue needing replacement and the AT issue on depollution error for my previous 308 THP. Gave up & sold it off after 3++ years in 2013. Seriously looking into the new 3008 Allure.....as both me & my wife agrees, that Pug still the best car we ever drove (we have or had Proton, Perodua, Nissan, Honda & Kia for the last 20 years mind you). So I hope Peugeot or rather NAZA have resolved all of those issue you mentioned & also the ones I had experienced......give your frank feedback if some still not. Thanks. This post has been edited by achol77: Oct 27 2018, 02:48 PM |
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Still can’t escape high beam from shitty maivee
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270hp from a 1.6L is race level tuning. And race car engines r stripped after 2-3 races. Gud luck with dat.
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QUOTE(achol77 @ Oct 27 2018, 02:45 PM) Hi, I believe you have gone through it all with Pug. But may I know when you had the last recall for all the above. go test drive a Mazda CX5 and see, better quality and feel compared to CRVI had the air-cond compressor issue needing replacement and the AT issue on depollution error for my previous 308 THP. Gave up & sold it off after 3++ years in 2013. Seriously looking into the new 3008 Allure.....as both me & my wife agrees, that Pug still the best car we ever drove (we have or had Proton, Perodua, Nissan, Honda & Kia for the last 20 years mind you). So I hope Peugeot or rather NAZA have resolved all of those issue you mentioned & also the ones I had experienced......give your frank feedback if some still not. Thanks. |
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QUOTE(achol77 @ Oct 27 2018, 02:45 PM) Hi, I believe you have gone through it all with Pug. But may I know when you had the last recall for all the above. Just drive around glenmarie peugeot SC, can see it is still so full until they have to park outsideI had the air-cond compressor issue needing replacement and the AT issue on depollution error for my previous 308 THP. Gave up & sold it off after 3++ years in 2013. Seriously looking into the new 3008 Allure.....as both me & my wife agrees, that Pug still the best car we ever drove (we have or had Proton, Perodua, Nissan, Honda & Kia for the last 20 years mind you). So I hope Peugeot or rather NAZA have resolved all of those issue you mentioned & also the ones I had experienced......give your frank feedback if some still not. Thanks. |
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High fuel pump kaput before 2 years of ownership.
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Oct 28 2018, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 28 2018, 12:09 PM) this. to buy Peugeot..u really have to love car and mod them for better effect and pleasure..else stay away from them..coz in 2 years of speed driving..the car will have high % break down. Europe cars are meant to last 5-6 years in cold weather.. put it in Malaysia humid weather..it will last half the tenure with excessive speeding..wats the point u buy this car to be a safe driver..?.. |
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QUOTE(achol77 @ Oct 27 2018, 02:45 PM) Hi, I believe you have gone through it all with Pug. But may I know when you had the last recall for all the above. I personally have no experience owner the 3008, but from what I have gathered from users as well as technical centers, all car after the 308 e-THP (which is the T9) have much lesser problems than it's predecessors.I had the air-cond compressor issue needing replacement and the AT issue on depollution error for my previous 308 THP. Gave up & sold it off after 3++ years in 2013. Seriously looking into the new 3008 Allure.....as both me & my wife agrees, that Pug still the best car we ever drove (we have or had Proton, Perodua, Nissan, Honda & Kia for the last 20 years mind you). So I hope Peugeot or rather NAZA have resolved all of those issue you mentioned & also the ones I had experienced......give your frank feedback if some still not. Thanks. The 3008 itself was stressed driven 100k km in 4 months in Malaysia prior to it's launch here and without major problem I've known at least 4 people personally that owns the car at various age since launch, all had no problems, and all are previous Peugeot owners Of all the cars, the 3008 is the one I am most confident with. That said, Nasim still has work to do, so you may need to bear with them till they improve. They are putting work into it, and with PSA now in Malaysia, Nasim will be under monitor closer than before But personally I find the 3008's handling and interior design is way above what is available in the market now, for the price paid. If I'm not mistaken it also is Peugeot's best selling car at the moment, for good reasons. This post has been edited by daijoubu: Oct 29 2018, 09:28 AM |
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