QUOTE(soonwai @ Feb 23 2019, 10:36 AM)
There are a few. I know of and use Aqara (Xiaomi). They have both neutral and non-neutral ones in 1 or 2-gang. Requires the Aqara Hub.
Oh I see need the hub. Thanks. I do have a aqara cam to go along lol.Smart Switch Replacement
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QUOTE(dudester @ Feb 23 2019, 10:59 AM) That should be the one. You already have the necessary hub for the wall switches.This post has been edited by soonwai: Feb 23 2019, 11:03 AM |
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QUOTE(dudester @ Feb 23 2019, 11:14 AM) Well since we are on smart switches. I wish someone make a good video for the sonoff. I tried to do one when installing but found out I need the neutral. Now these are just sitting in the cupboard. Any chance of pulling a neutral to the switch? I looked at the Sonoffs too. They are definitely the most affordable. In the end, settled for the Aqara Hub and it’s devices. I’m sure you can sell them here. Quite a few use Sonoffs. ![]() ![]() If you’re buying Aqara switches. Consider getting the 2-gang even in places where you only need 1-gang. You can set the 2nd unused gang to control another device, be it a lamp, plug or another wall switch. This post has been edited by soonwai: Feb 23 2019, 12:59 PM |
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QUOTE(dudester @ Feb 23 2019, 11:14 AM) Well since we are on smart switches. I wish someone make a good video for the sonoff. I tried to do one when installing but found out I need the neutral. Now these are just sitting in the cupboard. I asked an electrician whether its possible to pull a neutral. He pulled it from my doorbell...![]() ![]() |
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Guys. Anyone experienced Aqara smart switch (2 gang no neutral type) failure after 1 year or within 2 years period? My third one just failed within 2 years time. I'm wondering is it because of Aqara product quality or because of not using neutral type... Appreciate of anyone can advise or share your experience. Thanks..
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Check this smart home company that supply their own home brand in Malaysia. Reliable and they do provide videos tutorial on setup too. |
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What are the implications (if any?) of using a smart switch for lights that does not have a neutral? Any danger?
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i wanted to change my current 1 gang switch for lights to aqara switch. the label stated L1 L2 & L3. Do i need to get with or without neutral switch? If without neutral is has only 2 connector and how do i connect the 3 wires from my current switch?
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QUOTE(davidyang85 @ Dec 9 2020, 06:30 PM) i wanted to change my current 1 gang switch for lights to aqara switch. the label stated L1 L2 & L3. Do i need to get with or without neutral switch? If without neutral is has only 2 connector and how do i connect the 3 wires from my current switch? The three wires are all live if its a 1 way switch and its in 2x L1 and 1x L2.If this is a staircase switch (2-way) you will have 1x L1 1x L2 and 1x L3 How it works.. for a 1-way switch, think of it as letter T and we assume that one HOT live goes to ten lights. the horizontal -------- is common HOT live feed from DB box ("common tree branch") to ALL TEN lights' switches - i.e. this common HOT is powering up more than one light and this is NOT subject to switch action (common HOT wire that runs before the switch to ALL the ten switches as HOT INPUT) the vertical I is the ("one leaf only") circuit to that ONE light alone and is controlled by the switch to on/off that ONE light only. So by assuming your EXISTING three wires are stuffed in a 2x L1 and 1x L2, the one with two wires is the horizontal section (common HOT) the one with one wire is the individual ONE light circuit. This can be verified by a test pen with the ONE light switch off. This post has been edited by ceo684: Dec 9 2020, 09:35 PM |
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QUOTE(Jason @ Aug 10 2020, 01:52 PM) What are the implications (if any?) of using a smart switch for lights that does not have a neutral? Any danger? No issue but this switch (single pole) cannot be used for special purpose things like emergency exit/KELUAR sign (recommend to use double pole MCB so wont back flow current into the TNB grid as it has a transformer, some good design got diode to prevent this but some may backflow), or wet floor appliances (water heater need double pole), or for backup power transfer switch (for generator backup MUST use proper transfer switch else you may kill TNB people).This post has been edited by ceo684: Dec 9 2020, 09:44 PM Jason liked this post
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QUOTE(davidyang85 @ Dec 9 2020, 06:30 PM) i wanted to change my current 1 gang switch for lights to aqara switch. the label stated L1 L2 & L3. Do i need to get with or without neutral switch? If without neutral is has only 2 connector and how do i connect the 3 wires from my current switch? Malaysian homes typically doesn't use neutral for light switches so you get a no-neutral Aqara switch.Assuming the above is true and that this is a 1-way switch and that your current switch has 3 wires. 1 will be live. 1 will be load. The 3rd could either be load or a live passthru to another switch. My guess is that the 3rd wire is also load since you said plural lights instead of singular light. Take a pic of your switch before removing the wires. You can test for live wires with a tester. Be careful as fingers works just as well. Oh, and don't trust the colours. This post has been edited by soonwai: Dec 9 2020, 09:48 PM ceo684 liked this post
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Dec 9 2020, 09:43 PM) Malaysian homes typically doesn't use neutral for light switches so you get a no-neutral Aqara switch. Take pic and label the wires one by one according to where they came from (follow OLD switch labelling). If all else fail at least can revert rather than trying to guess what goes where in 3x3 = 9 possible combinationsAssuming the above is true and that your current switch has 3 wires. 1 will be live. 1 will be load. The 3rd could either be load or a live passthru to another switch. Take a pic of your switch before removing the wires. You can test for live wires with a tester. Be careful as fingers works just as well. |
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QUOTE(davidyang85 @ Dec 10 2020, 09:22 PM) Just fount out that it was a 2 way lighting. anyone tried installing 2 way lightning on the aqara smart switch?? I installed as 2 way switch beforeAnother thing is i was trying to install a 2 gang smart switch. the old switch has 2 COM and 2 L1. So do I put the 2 COM wire together into the smart switch L socket? ![]() This post has been edited by idoblu: Dec 14 2020, 08:27 AM |
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QUOTE(davidyang85 @ Dec 14 2020, 03:51 AM) This is no need for a 2 way switch connection for Aqara switches.All Aqara switches can already work multiple ways. This is for like staircase lights right where 2 switches control one light? This post has been edited by idoblu: Dec 14 2020, 07:46 AM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 14 2020, 08:40 AM) This is no need for a 2 way switch connection for Aqara switches. Yes is for 2 switches control 1 lights like one switch at bottom of the staircase another one at upstairs.All Aqara switches can already work multiple ways. This is for like staircase lights right where 2 switches control one light? Just wanted to know how to install it as my current 1 gang 2 way switch has L, L1 and L2 while Aqara 1 gang only has L & L1 This post has been edited by davidyang85: Dec 14 2020, 02:06 PM |
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