Hey guys, been lurking at the forums and I finally registered because I found that there's a lot of good people and good discussions here. The following will be a long story, so please bear with me.

I live with my very elderly father and older brother. My father is retired with very little money and my older brother quit his job about 6-7 years ago when I was still in college. Since then I've graduated and earlier this year have only gotten a job. My brother however, has no education, stays at home and has zero discipline and basically harasses my father with his anger and insults on a daily basis. He wakes up at any hour and is either on the internet of playing his PS4. He has zero real life friends. He is grandiose and believes he is better than anyone around him.

He was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder a few years ago but has never followed up with any treatment, counselling or medication. He threatens me and my father verbally and sometimes physically as well. He makes unreasonable demands such repeatedly asking money that we don't have or wanting to buy things we can't afford. Our relatives have stayed away and refuse to communicate with us anymore because of the stigma and my father is too old, frail and tired to do anything about it.

My questions is, how can I get him to be treated? He is totally out of touch with reality and believes the world is corrupt and people are beneath him, and lives safely in his bubble to form his own warped reality. I heard that I can call the police to pick him up to be forcibly treated, but I am the younger brother, not the legal guardian plus a police car coming to pick him up would definitely be the talk of the town since we live in a small neighborhood. What options do I have?

Hi everyone, I have an update on the situation but unfortunately it's not a good one.

Unfortunately, my father is getting more senile and due to spending 24/7 of his time with only my brother (and vice versa) he has become brainwashed and would follow whatever my brother wants. For example, my father believes that my brother does not need any kind of therapy and it's totally okay for him to stay at home doing whatever I want (while I, the sole breadwinner am struggling to make ends meet since they both aren't earning any income).

My brother would occasionally threaten my father wanting money, lecturing him for hours on how he deserves more money (from me) and wearing my father down, or even breaking glasses and mirrors.

To this day, it has been 5 years of him doing nothing but stay at home with no education or income, he doesn't go out and even if he does, he will force my father to accompany him.

Since my father does not believe in an intervention or treatment (he insist that my brother is working on a big project, so we should trust him) we live day to day with the same crap, waiting for him to wake up, either manic or in a foul mood. All of our relatives have distanced themselves from us, and my father, who also does not have any friends, does not listen to me anymore.

Is it normal for a 22 year old diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder, not taking any medications nor going to any treatment, to stay home without any education, job, cursing or throwing things at any hour he pleases (even when everyone's asleep), complaining about how he deserves more money and how the world is out to get him and wearing down his father? It's gotten so bad that our father is sleeping on the couch for almost a year to monitor him. Does anyone know what I can do about it?

Thanks guys, I'm very grateful for the replies.

He does have a record with a hospital in KL, it's just that he doesn't follow up with his treatment. Should I go to the hospital and tell them? Last time my father did so, they said they can't help unless the Police bring him there. He's already been sent to the hospital by the police twice, but every time he's released, he takes his meds for two days and then the same crap happens after a few weeks.

I'll look into that. Thanks a lot for the article too, I think Section 52 is something I might pursue if he refuse to tone down his rhetoric.