Hi, recently I learned Bazi from my friend and he found out that I will be very hard to find a wife and will be foreveralone. Some traits of people who is foreveralone is listed below;

i) choosy and perfectionist
ii) seldom go out socialise and will be very quiet in a big group
iii) finds it very comfortable just be alone at home
iv) miss out weddings... Either was outstation, travel or not being invited
v) miss out chances, most girls were taken or a wife

But then my friend told me it's ok not to have a companion coz I'll be doing just fine being alone.

Anyone interested to learn Bazi, kindly pm..

Tq.

This post has been edited by pencapchew: Oct 13 2018, 08:53 AM

what is bazi?

i'm interested, anyway, put that aside, i wanna know your opinion about it? do you just blindly believe it, or do you question it?

If ur chart tells you that you're going to be rich and lead a comfortable life without having to worry about finances, but if you sit around at home doing nothing but watching tv the whole day, do you think you'll end up with the life the chart says?

Hard to explain... It's a Chinese metaphysics thingy, they have their way to calculate ur energy and dna by forming a Bazi chart through 5 elements. And then uses that to derive and came with interpretations of your life and destiny... But the interpretations cannot just using 5 elements analysis alone. They have another 4 kinds of analysis to utilise. So basically, very complicated and calculative.

Obviously if you're not making an effort to go meet people and get to know people, you'll end up forever alone?

Some ppl just don't need that kinda effort and seems to have ppl swarming them, how dya explain that? So, ppl are unique, some ppl no matter how much effort to know ppl, ppl just wanna stay away from them... And then, there are some ppl is just like a magnet everywhere they go...

pencapchew , i think the main take away from all these is if you choose it(forever alone), rather then it choosing you...

if you've already have a mindset of willing to voluntarily be a forever alone like i do, then yeah sure. it's not great at all, but it sure is better than if you're being told you have no choice but to be alone all your life. the similar analogy is: you willingly choose a shitty job for 1 reason or another, its not that great but its better than you being shoved into doing a work that you're not even considering in the first place to begin with

i'm not sure if that's how i process my thoughts, but yeah it makes the job of accepting the life of being single for my whole life wayyy easier

And so living in a hole and keeping urself away from people's going to get u someone? Or help u achieve things in life?

Kanan Jarrus Yes that's right - well said

This post has been edited by tinkerbel: Oct 13 2018, 11:13 AM

Go out and get to meet girls la. Strike up conversations, take some risks. It's a numbers game in the end.

U will think it's voluntarily but in Bazi, it probably just being programmed in ur dna. Ppl tend to choose whichever lifestyle they are more comfortable with regardless of the norms. U don't feel great, but if u choose the "courtship and always thinking about girls part" path. u will probably feels more hardships and tiresome than what ur already chosen now...

In Bazi, there is a derivation that oil was so deep inside but ppl still find way to dig it out. eg. Jho Low, he may be living in a hole now, the deepest the better...but ppl still wanna find him.

Bazhi can only tell part of the story, the remaining parts depends on your karma and own effort as well

There are countless of babies being born at every moment, so can we say that those born at the same time share the same fate? Kind of ridiculous right?

No bazi can say that you are destinate to be alone unless you choose to be alone.

You can make your own future.

Lazada conman cheat one deal or 2 if you are really naive or stupid

Feng Shui conman cheat you for generations if you choose to believe.

its still useless if you ain't rich, good-looking or having a stable position in your career.

think about it, if you get attracted to a woman, surely there're bunch of other guys already eyeing on her, more so some with better qualities than you ever have, so what are the odds now?

that's just make the whole battle in courting pointless, rather just abandon it altogether, less drama that way

which is why it's the best if your able to carve your own path, rather than following the tradition imo

at the very least of it, even if you are alone at the end of the day, you know that you pick that route yourself in the first place, rather than placing blame on the Bazi

my 2 cents

Not all.women the same, you see poor blokes still got women crying over him

When you are chasing whats in front of you, you won't realize there are many more behind you that yearn to have what you have. When you got rejected by the women you admired, you won't realize there's other women that secretly admire you

When you think your life is shitty, there are many others who have even more fucked up life than you.

Bazi, didn't govern what u wanna make out of ur future, it is a calculation on what is programmed on ur dna... U can make ur own future as u like. The question whether it will be hard or easy only...

Can't blame bazi, it's only a calculation, and u just need to weigh in between the path u choose... Whether it's hard? Whether it's worth it? It's all down to analysing and understanding ur self better...

True... Dunno how to answer the probabilities of exact same person in this world tho

You've already given up. It's not the lack of money or a stable career that turns off women. It's the LACK of AMBITION.

Don't forget that there is only ONE you in your life. You are the main character. You are the only one that matters in your life.

Grab life by the balls and change yourself. They have a better career? Up your bloody game. They have a better physique? Boo hoo. Go lift.

It is very straight forward to me. If a woman is not attracted to you the blame is not on them, don't blame them for choosing someone better because it's your RESPONSIBILITY as a man to change and adapt. Its a dog eat dog world out there. Don't whine, don't complain and say that "oh my bazi says I'm destined to be forever alone, so I'm destined roll over and die a virgin".

Take ACTION and take charge to change your destiny. The truth is hard.

This post has been edited by AvenueX: Oct 13 2018, 12:34 PM

Bro, don't get too carried away about having a girl or ppl who has no effort in finding girl. Bazi never said that ur wrong If ur foreveralone, that's what society made up to be... So just chill

I am 24 and still virgin, i fit the description, can anyone help me pls, my hormone is weakening i don't want to miss out

i totally agree with the above statement of yours, makes me count my blessings

its not giving up, its call planning my next moves so that i can know whether its worth the fight or not.

you say its about lack of ambition, but what if you have the ambitions, but lack certain parts of other things as well? case in point, my former high school seniors that i catch up to once in a while shared with me on how his life changed because of his ex: he and her were both steady together once. they shared ups and downs, happy moments, all that good stuffs, and then the day came when she requested to break it off with him. he didn't know what went wrong, she just mentioned something about being young, wanna look around more and all that jazz before being committed into something more serious, okay that was hurtful but he accepted it and heavily moved on.

guess what? she hide the fact that she actually got attracted with her coworker that is more good looking than him and own his very own car a at mid 20's and even more bloody rich than my high school senior mate. all of those nice memories, those so-called "experiences and moments" where money couldn't buy(yeah right), all those stuffs just got thrown outta the window, why? because his wallet ain't fat enough that's why. and take note: my friend was decent guy, he's not filthy rich, but he's capable to work himself up if given time, but too bad, she got options and she decided to choose the new fish in the pool out of the blue, all 4 to 5 years of blood, sweat, tears and memories got wiped out just like that

so you see, even if you're handsome, rich, kind and charismatic, you risk the chance of being doomed if your girl got attracted to someone who is more handsome, richer, more kind and charismatic than you are. my senior was a cheerful and chill guy, that incident change him into something else, and i fear the same thing would happen to me ever again, which is why i'm glad that i'm single as fuck, but at the very least of it i won't be able to fall for someone and suffer that kinda shit. let me be single and oblivious to all these, its better that way.

and no, it's not giving up, it's call choosing my moves because i know the effort and energy ain't worth it. you work yourself up, you wanna build and maintain the relationship, and all of that goes down the drain when a stronger competitor comes along...

Life's like that. You win some you lose some. Trust me when I say that.

Sometimes people take relationships for granted and that contributes to the demise of it. One party might have gotten complacent and the other party thinks it is boring. For example, some people put so much into the relationship that they have no life beyond the relationship. This is a disaster. Being in a relationship does not mean you get comfortable or complacent. Don't put the ladies on a pedestal, the ladies don't like it.

I agree that it can be very vexing when a relationship falls apart.

Which is why it is of utmost importance and your top priority to work on yourself. If the girl leaves, so what? Life is not over. Her bloody loss. Move on. Your value as a man increases day by day. You don't have to get depressed or because the girl has left you. (Like your friend, being "changed" in to something else - so extreme and dramatic.).

The "effort and energy" you spend IS worth it. Because you live and learn. Each and every relationship that comes together and fall apart can be a learning experience.

If stand by my view on that matter and I'm not looking to change your opinions (I respect your views.). All I'm saying is you have a RESPONSIBILITY towards yourself to make sure you're the best you can be. You only live once you know.

Sure man. I totally agree with your statement.

If you don't work on yourself be ready to settle. The ugly, poor girl sure didn't.

If a hot/cute/pretty girl can spend so much effort on herself (gym, make up, studies, etc.). What makes you think you can score if you don't do the same (personal development, studies, gym, etc.).

You seem v strongheaded about this so if u think its best to let this Bazi thing rule ur life and set its path then by all means - u live ur own life.

I do to some extent believe in Bazi. Its a chart depicting what you are born with, and how to use these elements to your favor.

So TS when u see ur chart and chose to focus on that, maybe ur already set on being forever alone.
Have you heard of the term self fulfilling prophecy?
Use the knowledge to ur advantage.

I don't bother to correct his perspective because all he can think of is $$.

Money is important but it ain't everything, sometimes.

Being hurt sucks. Honestly. But being able to take a punch and to move on, that's the bigger picture here.

If you think you are gonna lose someone just because there's someone out there that's richer than you, it's akin to living life in fear of dying tomorrow because you might actually just die

It would not be worth it if it were easy.

When life give you lemons, make lemonade.

Those pretty girl got nice genes, yea but there are also NOT pretty girls that put make up on and go to gym. They see something they don't like they take affirmative action and CHANGE the situation.

No once says you need to be 'fixed'. All I'm saying is you owe it to yourself to be the BEST you.

Shit, I hit four of the above.

But i choose to not attend wedding dinners though.

My point exactly because there IS always someone richer than you. There IS always someone better out there.

But what's better than you, might not be the best for the girl

the same crap that tells everyone's fate but can't tell your own fate? no thanks.. probably those incredibly naive would actually follows bazi, horoscope what not to tell them what to do instead of be in the actions themselves.

which is why being single and foreveralone is a big win in this case

cons: you never know what being in a relationship feels like

pros: you never know what being hurt feels like (trust me, you don't wanna feel it)

This post has been edited by Kanan Jarrus: Oct 14 2018, 11:27 AM

Life is cruel does not mean we stop living.

Just because things are hard, that does not mean one just gives up and roll over.

Rome ain't made in one day.

All the pain and suffering that people goes thru, it leads somewhere.

Whether the bitterness along the way made you stronger or worse off, that's for the person to self interpret and analyse.

It's not even a fight to begin with, tbh.

I won't say that they forget what you have done before. But sometimes it's not just that simple. Gotta put yourself in other's shoes and reconsider as well. Your heart is gonna tell you A, but your brains are gonna tell you B in the end.

Eg - She left you for a richer guy.

Maybe her reasons are driven financially. But do you stop to consider that financials are important for her even before you start pursuing her?

Like what you wrote in the previous thread, she expects a 20k handbag every year. You are not comfortable dropping that kinda dough on her. So if she leaves you for another guy which can drop that dough on her, does that make her a bad person?

Honestly, the answer is NO. She wants a certain comfort in life and you can't provide that which is essential to her criteria of being with someone. People might called that Gold-Digger but that's basically bitterness just speaking. Not everyone is meant to live an average life, for starters.

Disclaimer : Money is usually not the biggest problem in a relationship. It's one of the factor but never THE factor unless it's clear cut cases where the girl said she will not date a person earning below XX,XXX amount of income per year. Most of the time, it's the small small things like your actions, your behaviours, your thinking and etc that pokes hole into the relationship before the financials come into play and destroy what's left of the happiness there

Disclaimer 2 : Experienced it personally that money is not a factor in a relationship thou it's a nice thing to have. All the money on Planet Earth didn't solve my problems with her anyways

Live a little man.

You can't live life if you are afraid to even step outta your own shadow.

And that's why this dude has prolly given up on life

Dunno what is self fulfilling prophecy... Izzit something to do with purple star astrology? I'm not entirely foreveralone, just feels that sometime there are events in life which makes u ponder upon it... My friend dunno purple star astrology either..just help him out to promo bazi to whoever interested...

This post has been edited by pencapchew: Oct 14 2018, 09:34 PM

Can i try

What's worth is your self worth. If you feel like you want to do it just to be better compared to another guy, go right ahead.

I don't think it's the right thing to do, but if that makes you ultimately happy and able to sleep on your bed peacefully, so be it.

Also, if everyone adopt your mindset. The world can stop spinning.

normal for introverts to miss out a bit on life since we prefer to stay in our own world ..

and it's totally okay being single for your life too .. Nobody will die without a spouse ... still got friends and family ..

I am living, by not indulging in stuffs that can emotionally and mentally hurt me...

I just wish those guys would have the same mindset as me, let me ask you: whats your main purpose of being in a relationship? is it just to gamble your way and see how would you fare against other guys, or wanna find a compatible partner to share and enjoy your life with? It's of course, the latter right? But at this day and age, shit has changed.

And I'm not talking about finance wise as well, you gotta look good too. And unless you're striking the lottery genes, you can't help but have this mindset of the "what-ifs" whenever a hot guy wanna bone your lady, and she's got her feet swept of by hot dudes(god forbid, hot dudes with fat wallet). Don't you feel tired? Just like the senior that I've mentioned in my few posts back, I could work myself out, and climb up the ladder and do all of the things, but at the end of the day if she got hooked up with some other guy, then it's no use either. You invest money in a stock to win some, to get some gain, not just for the sake of it; the same applies here as well.

I'm sick and tired of reading online posts about folks being abandoned because they're not up to par with their ladies standards. It's the guys fault if he's lazy, unmotivated. It's the ladies right to move on to other relationships if they guys are asshole, jerks, and unwilling to work for the better. But if they've given their all, and yet the outcome is a freaking heartbreak, then yeah that sucks, "move on" they say, it's easy they said...

Try to be in a relationship for about 5 years and above(god forbid if you've been with her for 8 years and above) and when the break up occurs because it's your fault even if you've went through hell back and forth, and then see how you can just "move on". Nope no thanks, I don't need that in my conscience.

Why are you so stuck up on that ONE girl anyway? Its life move on lah.

Gamble??? See how to fare with other guys??? Sorry. To me this is not an issue.

If the girl wants to go for another guy because he's "better" I say good riddance. Because I'm better.

Looks are not an issue la. Girls don't care about looks one. You think girls care about looks because as a male you care about looks only.

If the girls with me for 5 - 8 years and start playing mind games. It's a good indicator that this is not the right girl for me.

Then again humans get too emotionally invested.

Bazi is just a guide though. If it says I'm gonna be poor, am i doomed? T_T


You must have been through a bad heartbreak to say so. Nobody likes them but it happens
But lets switch roles, do you think its all easy for ladies as well?
We meet assholes and jerks too that jump ships. When you don't have bf, people would ask if you are picky, to change your look, your ovaries are going to dry up soon (as i typed this i realised i'm exaggerating) but you get the point.

The greatest happiness comes from watching the ones you love being happy at something, even thou you might not like it.



This song would be a good summary.

How long can you make her miserable la? 1 month? 2 months? If she moved on with a better guy, she has no time to give two farks about you anymore.

And you'll realize that your state is a very, very lonely place.

Or the flip side argument, she might actually get the man which is best for her even thou you are better than the other person she's with now.

Honestly, a relation is not a business transaction. He failed to grasp the concept and keep using his senior as an example instead of majority of people who found love out there and ended up being happy.

Reality check - Hot dudes with fat wallet ain't a turn-on for everyone.

Poor guy, actually I'm same as him previously.
But I met a girl last month, she's really nice and it totally doesn't feel hard to win her over.
The only thing is she lowered my lifestyle, eating cheaper food (that doesn't taste as nice as food a few ringgit more).

Help you save money bro

aka Diamond Guy as chinese says...

Er but that's what the chart says, it doesn't mean that it's real If you haven't put in any hard work do you really expect Lady Luck to come knocking? Once, twice maybe but anything more?

Nothing wrong eating cheaper / more expensive food.

Just go with the flow jer.

Therefore, can we summarize that there's nothing called fated foreveralone?

Indeed. I may sound narcissistic but.. I am the that matters most in my life (of course I care about other people also la parents friends etc).

To me, if she cheats/leaves me for this new guy. She is not the best for me. I can do a lot better.

just slight differences, I prefer tastier food over that 1~2ringgit.

I always know that there are no foreveralone, just rejection.

sometimes lady luck does not necessary means just go out and wooing girls yourself. Bazi refer it as "Direct" or "Indirect Wealth". Sometimes, it could come "Indirectly" through the forms of friends, family or even 3rd party intro

I'm not sure Joey Yap will agree with you but if that's what you believe then there's no point in us arguing on the matter; it's just going to be a complete waste of time right?

Still got hope. A lot of divrocee and widows is out there fromyou to grab. Dont waste bro. Its all yours...

I think joey yap will agree with me on certain extend. Different sifus had different thoughts on this matter. But, basically the principle of it will be the same.

Alright then.... sit around, do nothing and keep complaining about being #foreveralone.

"watch tv at home whole day while waiting money to drop from sky"

i can tell you not even one *credible* fortune teller dare to say that

I'm no fortune teller but I can tell u that if U sit around at home and do nothing, your life will continue to be as is.

Why waste your precious time and energy trying to be "loyal" to a person that's no longer yours?

agreed

Confirm liao you will be foreveralone!

And u believe it 100% ? No hope already....

This is true...lol

Don't take it 100% la... At least 90%. Another 10% might be some error in ur metaphysics calculation

Yes there are lol, what are you talking about??
sweetpotato01
Even if you try and muster up your energy effort and time to court someone, it would be impossible to find a partner if you're having a combo of being faceproblem, poor and less charismatic. You can try, you can put in effort, but I bet no other woman will like you other than just being a platonic friends. One wrong move on approaching woman and they will yell loudly claiming you're a creep whose after them

On flip side, if you're hot, rich and good looking, you approach any woman and they will fall for you, instantly. This is the truth: you pit a normal guy against usain bolt in short distance running, it would be utterly useless for that guy to win against the odds of beating the Olympic runner, no matter how hard he tries, no matter how much training and time he puts in, no matter how good of a coach you hire to train him. The same goes for dating, why would I suffer heartbreak knowing I will get rejected over and over and over again if I'm faceproblem and not rich, albeit having gone out of my way to pursue a relationship?

For surely, if I'm interested in a woman, there's gotta be tonnes more other guys who're highly capable than me(looks,finance,charisma,etc...) that has already fallen for her, so why bother fighting a losing battle?

Sometimes, it's wise to just quit, know your limits and move the hell on.

burgerRamli hey, you face the same problems too? You have my respect, sorry for (you) going through the trouble, I guess that's just how I program my mind to be haha and hope the best for your future

This post has been edited by Kanan Jarrus: Oct 16 2018, 08:07 AM

Ya'll got issues.

This world is harsh but if you know you're lacking then you're going to give up without trying to do something?

No one ask you to go for someone out of your league. And if you know the woman you're interested in have another guy who likes her, you will immediately back out without a try?

This post has been edited by sweetpotato01: Oct 16 2018, 12:29 PM

Reminds me a movie quote '我命犯天煞孤星，注定孤独终老‘, haha.

I think Bazi is correct in some way. If you are destined to be successful in this life, you will born to have those successful people traits, like hardworking, smart, never give up, full of confident, and there will be chances around you for you to grab. If you read those successful people biography, most of them already have these traits when they were young.

If you destined to fail, you will born to have those loser traits, like lazy, easily give up, not confident. Not smart is still ok, hardworking can still cover it.

Anyway, no matter how your Bazi tell you, you should always TRY to have those successful people traits/ positive attitude because life is full of possibilities and by doing so you increase at least a little bit of your chances to be successful.

Yup, true. Little bit is better than none.

Not sure what so dead being alone... But, the traits in no. i - iii, actually can be improve or change.

Definition of success is very subjective bro... Some ppl might wanna win battles for society to reckon, that this kinda success is bound by external expectation. For some, they may thinking about winning battle within oneself and it is a success to free yourself from everything...

This post has been edited by pencapchew: Oct 18 2018, 11:32 PM

Eh can meet people anywhere and everywhere! Go for sports activities. Go for social events. Go for corporate functions, etc.

Perhaps he just fulfill criteria no. i & iii...

Hi guys, i am 29 is still single since the days i was born.. i never wanted to be alone forever but i just dunno how to start a conversation with a girl that i 1st time saw and meet her. If I want flirt that girl but my mind keeps thinking about money cuz how much should i spend to treat her if each time we meet for a date.. right now my financial status are not stable at all.. anyone got idea how manage your money and your love life at the same time? Or anyone here ever experience this kind of problem?

This post has been edited by A183RT0: Oct 29 2018, 09:22 PM

Bro, better improve ur financial 1st before think about girls... If ur financial is stable, girls will attract to u coz they think u got security

lol, trust me, even if financial stable, it'll be a bit better, not necessarily big help on relationship

That's sum me up why I forever alone. But I'm happy

This post has been edited by kla2552: Oct 30 2018, 01:41 AM

Boy do u know that bazi can change ? lol

Oh my.. oh my..

Just to share. My job requires me to stand in front of 30 - 200 students almost every weekday. Over 9 years, I learn about how to attract ppl and how to present properly. I am still learning.

I can easily attract male and female individuals, but since they are my students, I don't think of relationship.

Seriously.

This is my rice bowl.
I believe, probably communication skills and timing is necessary to kick start the chemistry.

As such, may be to try to attract your peers or colleagues before a stranger.
Could be something related to the rule of probability which I am not sure.

This post has been edited by Capt olympic: Nov 2 2018, 10:14 AM

define financially stable

financial stable = drive beemer mercs and above? you don't know they might have piles of debt behind them

no need drive bm or merz...just have a house and a car with no debts then will be fine.

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I have all the criteria above. And yes, im still foreveralone. But i dont want to be alone.

Come do bazi me. Let me see if its accurate.

Wa this grp still exist? Bumping up to find old frens.

Not a group bro... Interested to know more, kindly pm

Not a bro, but thanks

This post has been edited by yukijunno: Jan 22 2019, 07:49 PM

i guess my ex is like you. we broke up quite a while ago. I think he can get girls to just for companionship, free sex n what not..

nope...i find it more comfortable being alone sometimes. ur ex on the other hand just makan whatever is served in front of him. so we r different.