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post Oct 9 2018, 07:43 PM, updated 8y ago

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not sure they tipu or what coz lge reduce the budget than firing LOL firing is their own problem not gomen
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post Oct 9 2018, 07:51 PM

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they will still be compensated by MMC-Gamuda, and i doubt their expertise is limited to tunneling.

Looks fake, and rehearsed.

MMC-Gamuda really digging their own grave by trying to get public sympathy. Its a business issue, project cancellations are supposed to be factored in during contract negotiations. They, like many other BN supporting companies would have forked out quite a bit to make sure BN stays in power. You reap what you sow.

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post Oct 9 2018, 07:52 PM

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Just you lot's opinion against the interest of the rest of Malaysia's population?

Meh.
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post Oct 9 2018, 07:54 PM

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hope PH will uturn this time
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post Oct 9 2018, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(lukeroku @ Oct 9 2018, 07:54 PM)
hope PH will uturn this time
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post Oct 9 2018, 07:56 PM

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All these ppl are skills worker..should not be a problem to get new job...
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post Oct 9 2018, 07:57 PM

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post Oct 9 2018, 07:57 PM

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post Oct 9 2018, 08:00 PM

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Always got some affected groups make noises lah... to be expected.

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post Oct 9 2018, 08:00 PM

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post Oct 9 2018, 08:03 PM

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post Oct 9 2018, 08:05 PM

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Gamuda will die soon.

End of the day, it is just business. Business come and go. People will move on eventually.
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post Oct 9 2018, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(maxmove2nd @ Oct 9 2018, 07:56 PM)
All these ppl are skills worker..should not be a problem to get new job...
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but all train related projects are being cancelled.... even construction/properties industry is also is slowing down.... hard time indeed... sad.gif
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post Oct 9 2018, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(zacx @ Oct 9 2018, 08:07 PM)
but all train related projects are being cancelled.... even construction/properties industry is also is slowing down.... hard time indeed...  sad.gif
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Understood but takkan these ppl knw how to work with trains only...they are skill engineers..so still can survive...
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post Oct 9 2018, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Oct 9 2018, 07:56 PM)
Why?
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compensation (if any), re-tender will cost more money and time which means more delay
their mrt2 tender is the cheapest iinm

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mrt3 later can make cheap cheap
just my 2cents

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post Oct 9 2018, 08:22 PM

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http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/mmcg...s-says-guan-eng


On MMC-Gamuda's statement yesterday that 20,000 jobs would be affected from the termination, Lim said: "We are not cancelling the project... I'm sure many of these workers can be re-employed by the contract award winner."

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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 9 2018, 08:05 PM)
Gamuda will die soon.

End of the day, it is just business. Business come and go. People will move on eventually.
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i think the undertable money damn kaw.
thats why LGE dare to parang MMC Gamuda.

i have someone inside, he told me only a few key ppl know the actual cost of the project.
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QUOTE(starlight glimmer @ Oct 9 2018, 07:43 PM)


not sure they tipu or what coz lge reduce the budget than firing LOL firing is their own problem not gomen
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LGE said new company can absorb those that affected. LEL
Project will continue, just without MMC GAMUDA


http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/mmcg...s-says-guan-eng


On MMC-Gamuda's statement yesterday that 20,000 jobs would be affected from the termination, Lim said: "We are not cancelling the project... I'm sure many of these workers can be re-employed by the contract award winner."

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post Oct 9 2018, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 9 2018, 08:25 PM)
i think the undertable money damn kaw.
thats why LGE dare to parang MMC Gamuda.

i have someone inside, he told me only a few key ppl know the actual cost of the project.
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so did lge did the right thing ? or gamuda is innocent?
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post Oct 9 2018, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(fumie @ Oct 9 2018, 08:00 PM)
right hand side amoi hnnnnggghhhh safety officer yoooo
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So sexist lady engineer means safety officer lol
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post Oct 9 2018, 08:31 PM

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thats why I said

Umno using them as political cannon fodder

If i was working there

the moment it becomes political i wont show my face

fired fired lah can find another job because very expert with working experience somore

unless skills really that limited and was hired due to compassion and krony

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kek.. risau no more 6 month bonus la tu..

inb4 If this happened in any other regular company.. they would probably get fired...
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post Oct 9 2018, 08:37 PM

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Compensated and move on la...

U think rakyat owe kao u ur fat salary and cibai bonus meh...
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post Oct 9 2018, 08:44 PM

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Worst then road sites hawkers, don't know how to adapt, why malaysian needs to pay for sky rocket price projects to support these people jobs?

Cancel saje... Sick of seeing these people
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post Oct 9 2018, 08:45 PM

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post Oct 9 2018, 08:53 PM

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What bullshit ktard. Never see the new spec die2 also must support gomen. Cost reduction on public infrastructure project is always nonsense.

No detail yet but so far that I've heard from the field. All look bleak. Prolonged construction. Downgraded finishing. Safety concern.
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post Oct 9 2018, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(maxmove2nd @ Oct 9 2018, 07:56 PM)
All these ppl are skills worker..should not be a problem to get new job...
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Sure, some of them will get jobs if they get terminated. But looking at the shear volume of jobs getting slashed, I don't think everyone that got terminated can find a job within 3-6 months.

20000 people leh, how to fill everyone in?
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post Oct 9 2018, 09:32 PM

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Most of them won't get jobs immediately, compensation packages can and will run out. The luckiest will be absorbed by the new companies, but now the negotiation power lies on the new contractor; their pay will definitely be cut.

For the good of the country I guess.
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post Oct 9 2018, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 9 2018, 08:25 PM)
i think the undertable money damn kaw.
thats why LGE dare to parang MMC Gamuda.

i have someone inside, he told me only a few key ppl know the actual cost of the project.
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if that is the case, he should call macc.
now delay for how long? a year? or 2?
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Rakyat didn't own you a living. Business world is like that, nothing last forever.
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QUOTE(maxmove2nd @ Oct 9 2018, 07:56 PM)
All these ppl are skills worker..should not be a problem to get new job...
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Assuming if these people are 'skilled' workers in first place....... whistling.gif
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post Oct 9 2018, 10:41 PM

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post Oct 9 2018, 10:48 PM

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this gamuda sitll havent finish cry father cry mother ar? typical crony, wake up duh!
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post Oct 9 2018, 10:52 PM

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Project not stopped, go rest few month. New company take over go apply that new company.
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post Oct 9 2018, 10:56 PM

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Kesian, semalam baru ambil 330e, esok kena buang kerja, cari kerja dapat gaji slash 50%, cant pay bank monthly commitment, goes bankrupt..bank cant cover debt....bank ++ interest

if 10,000 cant get job = 10,000 bankrupt, once bankrupt they cant work in skilled workforce, their ptptn also they can np longer pays..

see the domino effect?
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 9 2018, 08:25 PM)
i think the undertable money damn kaw.
thats why LGE dare to parang MMC Gamuda.

i have someone inside, he told me only a few key ppl know the actual cost of the project.
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They is Najib / Crony ?
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 9 2018, 10:56 PM)
Kesian, semalam baru ambil 330e, esok kena buang kerja, cari kerja dapat gaji slash 50%, cant pay bank monthly commitment, goes bankrupt..bank cant cover debt....bank ++ interest

if 10,000 cant get job = 10,000 bankrupt, once bankrupt they cant work in skilled workforce, their ptptn also they can np longer pays..

see the domino effect?
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With job pun tak bayar ptptn.no difference
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 9 2018, 10:56 PM)
Kesian, semalam baru ambil 330e, esok kena buang kerja, cari kerja dapat gaji slash 50%, cant pay bank monthly commitment, goes bankrupt..bank cant cover debt....bank ++ interest

if 10,000 cant get job = 10,000 bankrupt, once bankrupt they cant work in skilled workforce, their ptptn also they can np longer pays..

see the domino effect?
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With job pun tak bayar ptptn.no difference
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 9 2018, 10:56 PM)
Kesian, semalam baru ambil 330e, esok kena buang kerja, cari kerja dapat gaji slash 50%, cant pay bank monthly commitment, goes bankrupt..bank cant cover debt....bank ++ interest

if 10,000 cant get job = 10,000 bankrupt, once bankrupt they cant work in skilled workforce, their ptptn also they can np longer pays..

see the domino effect?
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You think the 10,000 will let themselves go bankrupt if they are so intelligent?
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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Oct 9 2018, 08:53 PM)
What bullshit ktard. Never see the new spec die2 also must support gomen. Cost reduction on public infrastructure project is always nonsense.

No detail yet but so far that I've heard from the field. All look bleak. Prolonged construction. Downgraded finishing. Safety concern.
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Have you see the new spec? Please share.
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Pity the workers but they should know the way these govt contracts work. Overinflated prices, pay a few few billion to middleman UPFRONT and leave normal Malaysian to pick up the tab. And like highway concessionaire, if volume low next time govt (Malaysians) have to pay compensation
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 9 2018, 10:56 PM)
Kesian, semalam baru ambil 330e, esok kena buang kerja, cari kerja dapat gaji slash 50%, cant pay bank monthly commitment, goes bankrupt..bank cant cover debt....bank ++ interest

if 10,000 cant get job = 10,000 bankrupt, once bankrupt they cant work in skilled workforce, their ptptn also they can np longer pays..

see the domino effect?
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Thats why gomen didnt chopped off their hands.
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:25 AM

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Your boss so sorhai why you no go fuucuuk him leh?

Basically PH wanna show dominance, care for Rakyat. Just discount la. 30%, 40% or even 50%. What you paid for jibby and co is the past. There's going to be MRT3,4,5,6 in the future. Just nego with government to guaranteed work for future projects.

Now you let other competitor come in, next time so easy to win again?
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 9 2018, 10:56 PM)
Kesian, semalam baru ambil 330e, esok kena buang kerja, cari kerja dapat gaji slash 50%, cant pay bank monthly commitment, goes bankrupt..bank cant cover debt....bank ++ interest

if 10,000 cant get job = 10,000 bankrupt, once bankrupt they cant work in skilled workforce, their ptptn also they can np longer pays..

see the domino effect?
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Are you one of them? LoL
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 10 2018, 07:25 AM)
Your boss so sorhai why you no go fuucuuk him leh?

Basically PH wanna show dominance, care for Rakyat. Just discount la. 30%, 40% or even 50%. What you paid for jibby and co is the past. There's going to be MRT3,4,5,6 in the future. Just nego with government to guaranteed work for future projects.

Now you let other competitor come in, next time so easy to win again?
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With LGE i doubt you can secure for upcoming projects even if this one you do free.
And if they slash price, i doubt their work will be any good too
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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Oct 9 2018, 11:02 PM)
They is Najib / Crony ?
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That's how it is paid out.
If I wanna pay someone, he sits there as a consultant, or a company as a consultant.

Public projects, GLC positions are the "paid out" methods.
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Aiyo, reternder la later. With revised and sensible costing, kenot issit?
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Oct 10 2018, 07:30 AM)
With LGE i doubt you can secure for upcoming projects even if this one you do free.
And if they slash price, i doubt their work will be any good too
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Are you sure it's lge jurisdiction to award contracts in the first place?

Slash price = No good? BN mentality again? So did you eat RM40 maggi while I had my RM4 maggi? Cheap can't be good...

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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Oct 9 2018, 08:53 PM)
What bullshit ktard. Never see the new spec die2 also must support gomen. Cost reduction on public infrastructure project is always nonsense.

No detail yet but so far that I've heard from the field. All look bleak. Prolonged construction. Downgraded finishing. Safety concern.
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Have you heard that for public projects the staff don't have a clue how much or percentage the company actually earns ??

Public projects margin usually hovers around 30% or so.
LGE comes in negotiations, MMC can reduce 23% of project costs.
If LGE gets it done even cheaper by another 20% via new tender, I tell u someone will kana MACC

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 10 2018, 08:18 AM)
Have you heard that for public projects the staff don't have a clue how much or percentage the company actually earns ??

Public projects margin usually hovers around 30% or so.
LGE comes in negotiations, MMC can reduce 23% of project costs.
If LGE gets it done even cheaper by another 20% via new tender, I tell u someone will kana MACC
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Trust me, it will happen....the dog had come back to bite its tail full of fleas laugh.gif
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:21 AM

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Gomen only wanted lower cost. Simple.

Gamuda refused to budge. Gomen then no choice but to terminate the contract and open tender to someone else. Who knows, maybe someone else will do it cheaper.

As for the workers, get this straight... no one owes u a living, be it gomen or employer. Just because u bought a new car or house, doesn't mean both parties need to compensate u right?
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 10 2018, 08:15 AM)
Are you sure it's lge jurisdiction to award contracts in the first place?

Slash price = No good? BN mentality again? So did you eat RM40 maggi while I had my RM4 maggi? Cheap can't be good...
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Normal la nowadays gen ppl.

Rm50 maggi = omg fking good high class eat liao so healthy. No problem eat 10 per day.

Rm3 maggi = yer..give cancer one. Eat liao can die. See utube video the mee no basi after 1 week punya.
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 10 2018, 08:18 AM)
Have you heard that for public projects the staff don't have a clue how much or percentage the company actually earns ??

Public projects margin usually hovers around 30% or so.
LGE comes in negotiations, MMC can reduce 23% of project costs.
If LGE gets it done even cheaper by another 20% via new tender, I tell u someone will kana MACC
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I think just like the LRT3 situation la. Basically previous BN Govt didn't scrutinise closely and be strict la

Obviously if I'm MMC-Gamuda, I sure put as many job scope/specs as possible to get higher contract value. Whether really need it or not is lain cerita
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 10 2018, 08:15 AM)
Are you sure it's lge jurisdiction to award contracts in the first place?

Slash price = No good? BN mentality again? So did you eat RM40 maggi while I had my RM4 maggi? Cheap can't be good...
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I know what you mean
But being in the construction for so many years, any under budgeted project tend to be either delayed or fill with quality problem.
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I guess MMC Gamuda created lots of fake workers to assist Najib to siphon money.
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What utter bullshit. Most of the highly skilled engineers working for the underground package come from kampungs? Urban engineers should be pissed off for not getting such highly paid jobs.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 10 2018, 07:27 AM)
Are you one of them? LoL
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hahaha nope..just saying la...
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