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post Oct 9 2018, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Oct 9 2018, 08:53 PM)
What bullshit ktard. Never see the new spec die2 also must support gomen. Cost reduction on public infrastructure project is always nonsense.

No detail yet but so far that I've heard from the field. All look bleak. Prolonged construction. Downgraded finishing. Safety concern.
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Have you see the new spec? Please share.
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:18 AM

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Pity the workers but they should know the way these govt contracts work. Overinflated prices, pay a few few billion to middleman UPFRONT and leave normal Malaysian to pick up the tab. And like highway concessionaire, if volume low next time govt (Malaysians) have to pay compensation
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 9 2018, 10:56 PM)
Kesian, semalam baru ambil 330e, esok kena buang kerja, cari kerja dapat gaji slash 50%, cant pay bank monthly commitment, goes bankrupt..bank cant cover debt....bank ++ interest

if 10,000 cant get job = 10,000 bankrupt, once bankrupt they cant work in skilled workforce, their ptptn also they can np longer pays..

see the domino effect?
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Thats why gomen didnt chopped off their hands.
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:25 AM

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Your boss so sorhai why you no go fuucuuk him leh?

Basically PH wanna show dominance, care for Rakyat. Just discount la. 30%, 40% or even 50%. What you paid for jibby and co is the past. There's going to be MRT3,4,5,6 in the future. Just nego with government to guaranteed work for future projects.

Now you let other competitor come in, next time so easy to win again?
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 9 2018, 10:56 PM)
Kesian, semalam baru ambil 330e, esok kena buang kerja, cari kerja dapat gaji slash 50%, cant pay bank monthly commitment, goes bankrupt..bank cant cover debt....bank ++ interest

if 10,000 cant get job = 10,000 bankrupt, once bankrupt they cant work in skilled workforce, their ptptn also they can np longer pays..

see the domino effect?
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Are you one of them? LoL
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 10 2018, 07:25 AM)
Your boss so sorhai why you no go fuucuuk him leh?

Basically PH wanna show dominance, care for Rakyat. Just discount la. 30%, 40% or even 50%. What you paid for jibby and co is the past. There's going to be MRT3,4,5,6 in the future. Just nego with government to guaranteed work for future projects.

Now you let other competitor come in, next time so easy to win again?
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With LGE i doubt you can secure for upcoming projects even if this one you do free.
And if they slash price, i doubt their work will be any good too
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:32 AM

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post Oct 10 2018, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Oct 9 2018, 11:02 PM)
They is Najib / Crony ?
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That's how it is paid out.
If I wanna pay someone, he sits there as a consultant, or a company as a consultant.

Public projects, GLC positions are the "paid out" methods.
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:09 AM

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Aiyo, reternder la later. With revised and sensible costing, kenot issit?
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Oct 10 2018, 07:30 AM)
With LGE i doubt you can secure for upcoming projects even if this one you do free.
And if they slash price, i doubt their work will be any good too
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Are you sure it's lge jurisdiction to award contracts in the first place?

Slash price = No good? BN mentality again? So did you eat RM40 maggi while I had my RM4 maggi? Cheap can't be good...

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post Oct 10 2018, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Oct 9 2018, 08:53 PM)
What bullshit ktard. Never see the new spec die2 also must support gomen. Cost reduction on public infrastructure project is always nonsense.

No detail yet but so far that I've heard from the field. All look bleak. Prolonged construction. Downgraded finishing. Safety concern.
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Have you heard that for public projects the staff don't have a clue how much or percentage the company actually earns ??

Public projects margin usually hovers around 30% or so.
LGE comes in negotiations, MMC can reduce 23% of project costs.
If LGE gets it done even cheaper by another 20% via new tender, I tell u someone will kana MACC

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post Oct 10 2018, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 10 2018, 08:18 AM)
Have you heard that for public projects the staff don't have a clue how much or percentage the company actually earns ??

Public projects margin usually hovers around 30% or so.
LGE comes in negotiations, MMC can reduce 23% of project costs.
If LGE gets it done even cheaper by another 20% via new tender, I tell u someone will kana MACC
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Trust me, it will happen....the dog had come back to bite its tail full of fleas laugh.gif
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:21 AM

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Gomen only wanted lower cost. Simple.

Gamuda refused to budge. Gomen then no choice but to terminate the contract and open tender to someone else. Who knows, maybe someone else will do it cheaper.

As for the workers, get this straight... no one owes u a living, be it gomen or employer. Just because u bought a new car or house, doesn't mean both parties need to compensate u right?
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:24 AM

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So they rather to go back to kleptocracy?
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 10 2018, 08:15 AM)
Are you sure it's lge jurisdiction to award contracts in the first place?

Slash price = No good? BN mentality again? So did you eat RM40 maggi while I had my RM4 maggi? Cheap can't be good...
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Normal la nowadays gen ppl.

Rm50 maggi = omg fking good high class eat liao so healthy. No problem eat 10 per day.

Rm3 maggi = yer..give cancer one. Eat liao can die. See utube video the mee no basi after 1 week punya.
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 10 2018, 08:18 AM)
Have you heard that for public projects the staff don't have a clue how much or percentage the company actually earns ??

Public projects margin usually hovers around 30% or so.
LGE comes in negotiations, MMC can reduce 23% of project costs.
If LGE gets it done even cheaper by another 20% via new tender, I tell u someone will kana MACC
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I think just like the LRT3 situation la. Basically previous BN Govt didn't scrutinise closely and be strict la

Obviously if I'm MMC-Gamuda, I sure put as many job scope/specs as possible to get higher contract value. Whether really need it or not is lain cerita
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 10 2018, 08:15 AM)
Are you sure it's lge jurisdiction to award contracts in the first place?

Slash price = No good? BN mentality again? So did you eat RM40 maggi while I had my RM4 maggi? Cheap can't be good...
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I know what you mean
But being in the construction for so many years, any under budgeted project tend to be either delayed or fill with quality problem.
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:59 AM

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I guess MMC Gamuda created lots of fake workers to assist Najib to siphon money.
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post Oct 10 2018, 09:23 AM

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What utter bullshit. Most of the highly skilled engineers working for the underground package come from kampungs? Urban engineers should be pissed off for not getting such highly paid jobs.
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post Oct 10 2018, 09:32 AM

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