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tcwan
post Jun 28 2021, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(shinrei @ Jun 28 2021, 11:10 AM)
Guys,

Just sub to time and wondering is it easier to bridge the 2 in 1 (modem+router) or ask straight separate modem+router before installation? I'm subbing the 500Mbps. My new router is GX90. Having the 2 in 1 modem+router feel can provide more flexibility. Any thoughts?
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I have the separate modem / router and I'm using my own router.
I guess the advantage of separate modem is that the one I have has the VoIP jack so you can still keep the VoIP service.
I don't know anything about the 2 in 1.
tcwan
post Nov 12 2025, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(jjj2 @ Nov 11 2025, 04:01 PM)
Hi..we do...but not recommended as once you converted to FTTR, you will be 'stuck' with limited devices that can be used for this type of deployment.
Basically it works the same across multiple ISP that supports FTTR, the fiber medium can be reused, Eg. one day you migrate to CelcomDigi or others ISP that supports FTTR, but not normal devices (Routers/AP) that commonly available in the market.
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It's been a while I looked into the whole FTTR solution and it's pros and cons.
(I didn't see the point for my place since I've already laid out CAT-5e during renovation previously).

Anyway, for anyone wanting a more technical explanation, I went down the rabbit hole trying to understand the FTTR stack and why someone will be stuck with this solution once you commit to it.

Basically the issue comes down to the use of the single flexible fiber for connecting the main unit to the end points. The single fiber requires the use of bi-directional optical signalling over the one fiber.

Currently the most common network equipment that operate with multiple optical signals (wavelengths) over the same fiber is GPON technology, so the FTTR equipment basically extending GPON to the room.

There are bi-directional (dual-wavelength) SFPs available for Ethernet switches/routers, but I don't believe that they will work over the fibers used in FTTR.

There is also an alternate Polymer Optical Fiber (POF) technology but that uses a different type of fiber than what is used for FTTR AFAIK and is not (yet) bidirectional. In addition, I have not even heard anyone talk about POF for home networking around here.

This post has been edited by tcwan: Nov 12 2025, 10:29 AM
tcwan
post Nov 12 2025, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(ChenKaiWen @ Nov 12 2025, 10:36 AM)
I believe you can use the fibre as it’s just using usual SC connector. Like GPON, there’s a splitter hub connecting to main router, then into the other units. You can get a SFP switch to replace that splitter.

If me, I would buy transparent SC fibre from taobao or other platforms if u can find them. Then use bidi SFP or use a media converter to connect your devices. The only problem is the tool to glue the fibre, it’s quite expensive. So hot glue is your friend here.
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Hmm. I'm a bit wary of using bidi SFPs with fiber that was not designed for it (Note: this not my area of expertise). Mainly because of the laser power output, since it's going to be ~ 100 m while the SFP optical receivers I referenced are rated for > 3 km. If there are bidi SFP versions for in-building connections of 100 - 500 m then that would be possible I guess.

Edit: Apparently, the minimum fiber distance can be 2 m even for long range SFP modules. So maybe the FTTR fiber can be reused after all (barring connector mismatch issues etc assuming that you can re-terminate them).

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