Z250 is definitely not suitable for pillion for long distance rides....i used to own 1..even for the rider it can get uncomfortable due to the thin n hard seat....with a pillion itll be worse coz the pillion will be leaning forward onto u...putting more weight on ur back, arms n wrist

For ur kind of riding, the versys x 250 would be best. But not sure if it fits ur budget...Those kind of touring bikes... unfortunately not many in that displacement...the only other bike i know is the ktn rs3 but not sure of reliability n its a single cylinder so higher vibration

Dont be too bothered with exhaust sound...as long as stock exhaust...itll be fine

As for no itch to upgrade.... lifetime b2... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... just give it time

my suggestion, just go get a b full...n get a used versys 650....this combo should last u longer before the itch kicks in

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Oct 6 2018, 01:32 AM

if ur talking about urself...... ptuih

gixxer... remember? hahahhahha

still an upgrade.... not upgrade means not changing and not adding.

jgn persoal

oh ya... i forgot about the CB500x.

thats another damn good bike... smaller and quite comfy too. add the top box and panniers and u have a very capable tourer.