Hi otai otai bikers, I intend to get a 250 cc bike in a few months. I have read most topics here but can’t find anyone talk about pillion riders.

The bike is for weekend rides, light off road trails, city rides if alone and occasional long distance holidays. Eg. KL - Melaka - JB etc. My wife will follow as well.

My budget is below RM 15 K. I intend to buy second hand.
I’m not sure which one is comfortable for pillion riders on long distance rides. I prefer a quite type or a soft whisper type as the noisy ones are deafening.

I’m a B2 holder and has no intention to upgrade to B full, so the Itch to upgrade to bigger bikes is NIL. Lifetime B2.

My friend recommended the Versys 250 and Z 250. I have not rode or listen to the exhaust sounds of either bikes.
Vulcan S is not in my class type and I feel awkward with my legs in front. Most cruisers are like that?

Please recommend a few types. Thanks.

This post has been edited by Mikelimks: Oct 19 2018, 10:10 AM

Z250 is definitely not suitable for pillion for long distance rides....i used to own 1..even for the rider it can get uncomfortable due to the thin n hard seat....with a pillion itll be worse coz the pillion will be leaning forward onto u...putting more weight on ur back, arms n wrist

For ur kind of riding, the versys x 250 would be best. But not sure if it fits ur budget...Those kind of touring bikes... unfortunately not many in that displacement...the only other bike i know is the ktn rs3 but not sure of reliability n its a single cylinder so higher vibration

Dont be too bothered with exhaust sound...as long as stock exhaust...itll be fine

As for no itch to upgrade.... lifetime b2... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... just give it time

my suggestion, just go get a b full...n get a used versys 650....this combo should last u longer before the itch kicks in

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Oct 6 2018, 01:32 AM

Thanks for a speedy response, Madman.
I did read ALL of you mentioned about the Itch to upgrade to bigger bike later on. But I don’t know whether I’ll fall for it. I’m the type that once I’m happy with it I will stick to it as long as I can.

During my younger days, I used to own the Rxz for 10 years before I downgraded to RS110. Now using Modenas MR 1 to travel to the city during weekends.

Am considering your recommendation for B full.

I read about the Versys 650 in this forum. Most people mentioned it’s too high for them, even those at 175 cm high. They can’t flat footed the ground and my height is 168 cm.

My other concern is the maintenance and repair costs for the 650. Costs of spare parts etc.

Not all bro

👌🏼😁😁😁

if ur talking about urself...... ptuih

gixxer... remember? hahahhahha

Bike suitable for pillion.... Gold wing

Comfortable for pillion and occasional long distance?IMHO, Yamaha XMax 250. Storage already built in.

Focusing on your budget and conditions and also choices, Versys 250 is the best choice for pillion riders. Wind or airflow resistance maybe an issue due to rear seat height but I think should be good enough to sustain.
Tens of other models are also available but let's just focus on your budget and conditions ... 😁😊😊😁

Thanks for the info but I’m not interested in scooter type.

Hehe ^

I’ve no worry about airflow resistance etc. Furthermore, mostly I will just be cruising around 100-120 kph and not looking for top speed.

This morning I went to Sunway Kawasaki center and sat on the new Versys 650 and just managed to tiptoed on both legs only and hard to balance while the 250 are just nice for me though not flat footed on the ground. The boss there is very friendly and said both bikes can be lowered by 1 inch but have to pay for the accessories about RM 200-300.

They don’t have second hand machines. The 250 is at RM 24,820.00. Seems like I have to stretch my budget slightly higher. Atm I will kiv Versys 250 while looking for other models to compare.

I’m planning to buy latest by Feb or Mar 2019. Will keep looking for 250 second hand unit as it might be in my budget range at that time.

My height is at 166cm and I'm riding an adventure bike.
My pillion rider prefers adventure bike comparing to lower retro ones.
At this height, riding an adventure bikes is always challenging but worth the nervousness.
Putting 2 feet flat on the ground is impossible. No matter how much I may say that I'm ok, I would always sweating nervously when riding in the traffic 🤣🤣🤣
The 250 might be a good choice but if you're eyeing on 650, I would propose you to wait a little longer and get the 650. 😁😁

250 below good for pillion.... strike out maxi scooter... good luck..




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Add, never upgrade.

And that remains a dream because I gotten an "underpowered" (according to many people since today age of forced induction la) car

Buy dominar 400 at 15k use 1k go do b full at metro, at the mean time renew l

Thanks for the info. But I’m not interested in scooters.

Thanks.

Hmm... am not ready to upgrade to B full yet.

I did looked up on Dominar 400, the review about pillion’s comfort only for short distance.

I think I’ll stick to Versys X for now.

Thanks.

Hmm... am not ready to upgrade to B full yet.

I did looked up on Dominar 400, the review about pillion’s comfort only for short distance.

I think I’ll stick to Versys X for now.