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 Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - 2018/2019, LIV 5 : 0 WAT #YNWA

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post Nov 12 2018, 08:15 AM

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post Nov 12 2018, 08:23 AM

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Guess it was to much to ask from a garbage team to draw with man city....
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post Nov 12 2018, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Adell G @ Nov 12 2018, 08:23 AM)
Guess it was to much to ask from a garbage team to draw with man city....
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yes, true

5 years effort below their rivals
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post Nov 12 2018, 10:28 AM

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A good win although Fulham looked very lifeless to be honest.

The other 2 draws are also fairly important.
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post Nov 12 2018, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(stickmanchong17 @ Nov 12 2018, 02:28 AM)
I watched it too. Smooth free flowing football. Pep's teams really dominate the league, be it in Spain, Germany or England!
I really wonder when will we have a genuine chance of lifting the PL trophy. I don't know why but somehow, every 5 years we challenge for the PL title but end up as runners-up. It's quite sad, to think about it.
The positive takeaway is that Klopp's teams has always been challenging for the top honours consistently every season, unlike the BR or Benitez era.
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Memory issue?

Do you remember the team Rafa took over from Gerard Houllier? Rafa finished 2nd on his 4th season, consistently challenging Chelsea with Abrahamovic's money. Won Champions League followed by FA Cup the following season.

Do you remember the team BR took over from Kenny Dalglish/Roy Hogdson? BR actually challenged for title on his 2nd season.

If you analyze deeper, we have always lost out to Man Utd - and I cannot fault any of our managers except Graeme Souness for this because SAF was the elite manager. Then there was Chelsea spending like nobody's business and we had cowboys like Tom Hicks and partner. It went downhill with the appointment of Roy followed by Kenny.

BR gave us a breath of fresh air and hope with the run in 13/14 season. He brought in Coutinho, kept Suarez for another season, and brought in Sturridge. We have not always been a high spending club.

Klopp is a very good manager but he also gets to spend this much because we have sold Suarez and Coutinho both on very high profit. I'm glad he bought the right players in and the team is gelling well. Still, the reality is we are not spending like Man City because we don't have the money. That's the fact. We need a lot of luck to win without money. The crazy run by Leicester happens like once every 20 years with Blackburn winning in 94/95.
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Hahaha neighbour club said better let mc win the league rather than us.

What supporter is that? Sacrificing own club? Lmao
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post Nov 12 2018, 01:19 PM

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post Nov 12 2018, 01:25 PM

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Lucky to get the first goal. I think Fulham’s goal was marginal offside but Alison’s quick free kick shouldn’t have been allowed as the ball was moving.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Nov 12 2018, 01:25 PM)
Lucky to get the first goal. I think Fulham’s goal was marginal offside but Alison’s quick free kick shouldn’t have been allowed as the ball was moving.
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It wasn't onside. I watched the situation like 5-10 times. I've referred to some experts on twitter. They confirmed that 6 players were in off-side position. They went in even before the ball came across. Alisson always has that vision to get the ball up top as quick as possible. Hence i feel the goal has to be legit. And Mitrovic was in offside position tho..
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post Nov 12 2018, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Nov 12 2018, 11:22 AM)
Memory issue?

Do you remember the team Rafa took over from Gerard Houllier? Rafa finished 2nd on his 4th season, consistently challenging Chelsea with Abrahamovic's money. Won Champions League followed by FA Cup the following season.

Do you remember the team BR took over from Kenny Dalglish/Roy Hogdson? BR actually challenged for title on his 2nd season.

If you analyze deeper, we have always lost out to Man Utd - and I cannot fault any of our managers except Graeme Souness for this because SAF was the elite manager. Then there was Chelsea spending like nobody's business and we had cowboys like Tom Hicks and partner. It went downhill with the appointment of Roy followed by Kenny.

BR gave us a breath of fresh air and hope with the run in 13/14 season. He brought in Coutinho, kept Suarez for another season, and brought in Sturridge. We have not always been a high spending club.

Klopp is a very good manager but he also gets to spend this much because we have sold Suarez and Coutinho both on very high profit. I'm glad he bought the right players in and the team is gelling well. Still, the reality is we are not spending like Man City because we don't have the money. That's the fact. We need a lot of luck to win without money. The crazy run by Leicester happens like once every 20 years with Blackburn winning in 94/95.
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Blackburn actually spent big by the standard of that time. So yeah, it has only been Leicester since money flooded English football.
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post Nov 12 2018, 02:45 PM

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We didn't go all guns blazing but still getting much needed 3 points last night. Both Hendo & Keita also getting game time, hoping they would get full fitness before fixtures congestion in December.

International matches coming up. Oh please, no more injuries.
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post Nov 12 2018, 04:39 PM

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I not sure l prefer last season football or this now. Last season our football is nice to watch. Attack crazy but same time leaking goal also. A lot of banana skin match. This season more conservative play. Attack not that crazy but still get 1 or 2 goal and defend well and getting result.
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For me, Rafa's many seasons with Liverpool simply was not as consistent as Klopp. Rafa is a great manager, no doubt. But to consistently compete for silverware is something I felt that Klopp wasn't credited enough. Indeed, money brings success nowadays. Rich clubs can always grab the best players first, and also the best coaches.
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post Nov 12 2018, 07:54 PM

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We have great speedy forwards , we have great back line with 2 superb Wingbacks & the Keeper is equally good.

But we have a sucky Midfield, guess this is the last department we should improve........

Buy a Luca Modric or a De Bruyne possible ?
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Nov 12 2018, 01:33 PM)
It wasn't onside. I watched the situation like 5-10 times. I've referred to some experts on twitter. They confirmed that 6 players were in off-side position. They went in even before the ball came across. Alisson always has that vision to get the ball up top as quick as possible. Hence i feel the goal has to be legit. And Mitrovic was in offside position tho..
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I wasn't talking about onside. In fact, I said it's marginal offside. I said our goal shouldn't stand because the ball was moving. Go read the rules. The ball shouldn't be moving for a quick freekick.

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Nov 12 2018, 09:12 PM)
I wasn't talking about onside. In fact, I said it's marginal offside. I said our goal shouldn't stand because the ball was moving. Go read the rules. The ball shouldn't be moving for a quick freekick.
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Yeah, i saw that too..cheeky one but it was just rolling after a "just offside". whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(genjo @ Nov 12 2018, 11:38 AM)
Hahaha neighbour club said better let mc win the league rather than us.

What supporter is that? Sacrificing own club? Lmao
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It's like we are saying better let Everton win the League than M.U.... rclxub.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(stickmanchong17 @ Nov 12 2018, 07:24 PM)
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For me, Rafa's many seasons with Liverpool simply was not as consistent as Klopp. Rafa is a great manager, no doubt. But to consistently compete for silverware is something I felt that Klopp wasn't credited enough. Indeed, money brings success nowadays. Rich clubs can always grab the best players first, and also the best coaches.
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Rafa was challenging for silverware almost every season and his specialty is always with the cup.

04/05 - Champions League Winner
05/06 - FA Cup Winner & UEFA Super Cup (if that matters)
06/07 - Champions League finalist
07/08 - Champions League Semifinal - most underwhelming season
08/09 - 2nd place in Premier League - pretty close run
09/10 - the ultimate downfall

All these under the shit administration of Tom Hicks and George Gillet.

15/16 - League Cup finalist, Europa League Finalist, and 8th place league finish.
16/17 - Round 4 FA Cup, 4th place league. Semi Final League Cup
17/18 - Champions League finalist, 4th place league, early exit in domestic cups.

The best players he had was Gerrard, Carragher, Hyypia. He had minimal and slow rebuild with Alonso, Garcia, Reina and co. Klopp came in with a much better starting 11 and a better owner.

I'm not knighting Rafa or dissing Klopp. I just don't know how you came up with Rafa was not consistent in challenging silverware even more so less than Klopp when you can actually see, Klopp is behind in the 1st 3 seasons. Just because he had a crap final season doesn't mean that is all we should remember him by. Rafa did more with less and I hope Klopp can do much better with this much resources available to him.


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