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TSManiMani80
post Sep 29 2018, 12:20 AM, updated 8y ago

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Hi all, I fix 195 55 R15 rim and tyre.. at first after fix the new tyre rubbing with body so the rim shop mechanic modified my absorber and fix spring bumper rear side only..after that no rubbing sound for month only..now the rubbing sound come back..

What should I do..change hard spring? Or suspension??
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post Sep 29 2018, 12:25 AM

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May i know what is your original tyre size?
TSManiMani80
post Sep 29 2018, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Sep 29 2018, 12:25 AM)
May i know what is your original tyre size?
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My original size is if not mistaken was 175 65 R14..
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post Sep 29 2018, 02:24 AM

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put stopper at absorber...
TSManiMani80
post Sep 29 2018, 06:01 AM

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QUOTE(frantic912 @ Sep 29 2018, 02:24 AM)
put stopper at absorber...
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Yes..that one done modified by shop mechanic..
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post Sep 29 2018, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(ManiMani80 @ Sep 29 2018, 12:38 AM)
My original size is if not mistaken was 175 65 R14..
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I think widen the fender will do?
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post Sep 29 2018, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Sep 29 2018, 07:55 AM)
I think widen the fender will do?
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Not understand..fender means??
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post Sep 29 2018, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(ManiMani80 @ Sep 29 2018, 08:03 AM)
Not understand..fender means??
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https://goo.gl/images/qn1H8P

Require more process. But after this process, then no worry about the rubbing issue. More to body work.
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post Sep 30 2018, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(ManiMani80 @ Sep 29 2018, 12:20 AM)
Hi all, I fix 195 55 R15 rim and tyre.. at first after fix the new tyre rubbing with body so the rim shop mechanic modified my absorber and fix spring bumper rear side only..after that no rubbing sound for month only..now the rubbing sound come back..

What should I do..change hard spring? Or suspension??
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Well you have basically chosen the wrong rim offset! So actually the right solution is to change to another rims set with the right offset. All those other stuff that have been done by your tire shop and mentioned above are just a work around, not the true solution. You should actually be upset with your tire shop for selling you that wrong offset rims if they did not mention it at all, but if they did and you still insist then it is all on you.

Anyway so now I assume you're stuck with the rims, right? So now check how exactly it's rubbing, is it just slightly on the sidewall with the inner fender lip? If like that then you can just try fold the fender inner lip and it should give more clearance. But if it rubs badly on top of the tire threads, then you're screwed! In this case, one thing you could try is install a spring buffer which may work but will actually mess up your spring rates/makes the car suddenly stop pressing down on the spring, so ride comfort is sacrificed, and of course more money to spend. Not sure also how long will this thing last because after all it's still just rubber being forced pressed by the steel springs. In a sense this is similar to a longer bump stopper that you said the mechanic had tried to install. It doesn't work anymore now because most likely the stopper has gone weak or even break due to constant hit from the absorber's body during full load. Probably the spring buffer will be more effective and last longer but again, not the true solution.
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post Oct 2 2018, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(ManiMani80 @ Sep 29 2018, 12:38 AM)
My original size is if not mistaken was 175 65 R14..
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Use 195/50R15 or 185/55R15 or change rim with higher offset.
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post Oct 2 2018, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(ManiMani80 @ Sep 29 2018, 12:38 AM)
My original size is if not mistaken was 175 65 R14..
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Deep trouble man...
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post Oct 2 2018, 02:34 PM

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change rim la... your rim offset is wrong dei
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post Oct 2 2018, 02:54 PM

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LOL! Seems until today still many people are not aware of the sport rim offset importance...

BTW, it is also a big increase of tire width from 175 to 195, usually i will propose to move to 185 first..

175/65/R14 -> 185/55/R15 (Same height & speedometer also not much difference)

https://tiresize.com/comparison/

By going 195/55/R15, you tire also larger in height & width which is big trouble for normal car with limited space.
If still want 195, at least need to go lower 50 profile..

The main issue now is sport rim offset, 2nd is tire size.. Please get that right before upgrading it.
As a lot of tire shop just want to clear their sport rims and dont care about the aftermath since you are the one that will pay all the side effects.. bangwall.gif

This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 2 2018, 03:02 PM
Jonsnow68
post Oct 4 2018, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(ManiMani80 @ Sep 29 2018, 12:20 AM)
Hi all, I fix 195 55 R15 rim and tyre.. at first after fix the new tyre rubbing with body so the rim shop mechanic modified my absorber and fix spring bumper rear side only..after that no rubbing sound for month only..now the rubbing sound come back..

What should I do..change hard spring? Or suspension??
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There are a few options

1) change rim with proper offset (38 and above)
2) roll your fenders
3) change tyre to 195/50/15

I used to have the same problem you're facing now. I changed rims and the issue is solved. If you want to save money and go for the cheaper option, then roll your fenders.
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post Oct 14 2018, 08:28 AM

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The higher the offset number, more ke dalam your tyre/rim will be...
The lower the offset number, more ke luar your tyre/rim will be...
Like your case, the tyre width increased by 2 cm...which is a lot...
Last resort, if you dont want to change rim is to go to body shop to make wide body la kot...

cheers...
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TSManiMani80
post Oct 17 2018, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(DarkWRC @ Oct 14 2018, 08:28 AM)
The higher the offset number, more ke dalam your tyre/rim will be...
The lower the offset number, more ke luar your tyre/rim will be...
Like your case, the tyre width increased by 2 cm...which is a lot...
Last resort, if you dont want to change rim is to go to body shop to make wide body la kot...

cheers...
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Hi ..thank you for the superb info...so what if I tukar tayar size to R15/50 190??
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post Oct 17 2018, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Jonsnow68 @ Oct 4 2018, 03:28 AM)
There are a few options

1) change rim with proper offset (38 and above)
2) roll your fenders
3) change tyre to 195/50/15

I used to have the same problem you're facing now. I changed rims and the issue is solved. If you want to save money and go for the cheaper option, then roll your fenders.
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Hi bro, I just change the rim newly..so it's make me hard to trade in now... recently I changed my absorber cause it's broken..and spring a bit higher..last time 2finger.now 3finger..but still I hear the rubbing only if I bring so weight person...maybe coming I will change my tyre size as per ur recommend..thank you bro
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post Oct 17 2018, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(ManiMani80 @ Oct 17 2018, 04:54 PM)
Hi bro, I just change the rim newly..so it's make me hard to trade in now... recently I changed my absorber cause it's broken..and spring a bit higher..last time 2finger.now 3finger..but still I hear the rubbing only if I bring so weight person...maybe coming I will change my tyre size as per ur recommend..thank you bro
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Hi bro. Ah okay. In that case, get spring buffer. It will help to stop the tyre from rubbing. Can get it around rm50-rm70 I think.

 

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