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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadband Thread V35, READ 1ST PAGE FOR TURBO SPEED INFO!

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garbanicus
post Sep 21 2018, 04:24 PM

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OT: Any recommendations for seedboxes that can make full use of Unifi Turbo 500/800Mbps?
Have speed tested alot of seedboxes, most can't even go over 300Mbps (37.5MB/s) download.
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post Sep 21 2018, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(wilson1stop @ Sep 21 2018, 04:41 PM)
Hmm, thought TM begun throttled p2p speed?  sweat.gif
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Hence the need for seedbox. Or vpn.


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post Sep 21 2018, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(ujunk @ Sep 21 2018, 04:27 PM)
try this.. i use this.. very cheap and fast..
https://www.sonicseedbox.com/reff/?id=10727
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QUOTE(ujunk @ Sep 21 2018, 04:28 PM)
try use this.. very fast and cheap..

from RM8.

https://www.sonicseedbox.com/reff/?id=10727
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Thks for ur aff link. Twice haha dry.gif
But have tested sonicseedbox before. Also can't go beyond 300Mbps download.
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post Oct 12 2018, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(latios507 @ Oct 12 2018, 02:35 PM)
More or less correct. From the seedbox to your PC, it's not limited to HTTP downloading, you can also use FTP/LFTP connection to download. You might need to use internet download manager & a proper FTP client (SmartFTP, FileZilla, CyberDucky, BitKinex, CuteFTP & etc).

Now FTP client are very modern, very easy to use and you can just drag and drop like how you do in normal windows.

For starters, I'd suggest to use seedbox.io or Ultraseedbox.com. They have the best Price/performance value on the market with decent storage size.

Seedbox.io has unmettered DL/UL, while USB (Ultraseedbox) has unmetered DL but UL has cap. Shouldn't be an issue if you're not a heavy torrent user and you just want to download on public trackers.

Once you go advanced, you can get a dedicated seedbox. You want the best speed, storage and huge advantage on private tracker, dedi seedbox is the way to go.

Seedbox.io has dedicated nForce offering (nForce PremiumOne NL is one of the best Tier 1 network provider in Europe, same par (some said it's better) with OVH France and Leaseweb NL). If you're willing to break the bank, you can search Andy10gbit (a seller on reddit & discord) where he sells multiple seedbox with different providers. He can also custom tune your seedbox speed to suit your needs (whether you need it for racing & DL or plex streaming).

I'm using Andy10gbit 1Gbps OVH FR offering now and wew rclxm9.gif
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Bro latios507, possible to PM a file link from your seedbox to test DL speed?

I've tested some seedboxes:
seedbox.io (https://seedbox.io/speedtest) can't seem to achieve even 100Mbps (I'm on 500Mbps).
ultraseedbox (http://ns2.ultraseedbox.com/) their test file (100MB) is too small.
Can't really do a proper test, especially with IDM.

Others that seem good:
put.io - can achieve full speed most of the time because of their Cloudflare route/servers. And alot of popular files from public trackers are already cached. So no need to wait for torrent, can start DL immediately.
premiumfast.net (Indonesian based) - haven't really tested, but they offer this additional SG proxy so nearby users can max the speed.

Afew other seedboxes tested also can't seem to give good speeds.
First time hearing about Andy10gbit's services, so would be interested to test if possible.
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post Oct 12 2018, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(latios507 @ Oct 12 2018, 03:52 PM)
I'm not at home atm. In the meantime,
You can try this file: https://mirror.nforce.com/pub/speedtests/

Just download and monitor your DL speed. It's a dummy file so you can delete it later.

Both seedbox.io and ultraseedbox uses nForce Premium for their servers, so the public test file should be okay.
Try with 10GB files
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Yeah the thing is, couldn't really test with large files without signing-up for a plan first. Unless there's a trial somewhere. hmm.gif

Anyway thanks for the Nforce mirror speed test.
Was able to reach >60MBs/s download using IDM which fits my Turbo 500Mbps, but it fluctuated alot.

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post Oct 12 2018, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Doraku @ Oct 12 2018, 06:40 PM)
Why do you need seedbox actually?, Did you download private tracker torrent and really need seed the torrent?
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Seedbox not just for seeding/ratio on private tracker purposes. But also getting max DL speeds, depending on server location/setup of course.
Also as mentioned previously, some popular files especially on public trackers get cached on the servers. So there's no need to wait for the torrents at all, can just start DLing immediately.

Not sure what are other solutions out there. Personally have tested quite a few VPN services. None were able to achieve max DL speeds even on highly seeded torrents, public or private trackers. In fact the speeds were lower than without VPN.
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post Oct 12 2018, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Doraku @ Oct 12 2018, 08:47 PM)
Using seedbox to increase your own download speed not really effective from what i know about seedbox especially on not popular torrent
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No bro. Your own download speed depends on your connection with the seedbox that's all. Popular torrent, public tracker or private tracker also.
See some of the previous posts here, mine included. With the right seedbox, you can achieve max DL speeds on your UniFi Turbo.
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post Oct 13 2018, 11:42 AM

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The worst thing is...
Yeah turbo to 300/500/800Mbps, but sorry p2p is throttled.
Even youtube is throttled.
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post Oct 13 2018, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Oct 13 2018, 02:48 PM)
can ask the network gurus to test this razer sila?

Its probably the one of the most compact and fast routers i have seen
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IMHO (I used to be a razer user myself), most razer products really suck. Only their marketing is good.
You are just paying for aesthetics.
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post Oct 13 2018, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(ASAP @ Oct 13 2018, 04:44 PM)
Hi all,

Today I turbo speed to 800Mbps from my previous 100Mbps. However, I am getting 490Mbps due to using older router and planning to upgrade to new router which capable to fully utilise 800Mbps.

Then I thought I can still happily download torrent around 40MBps today but I consistently getting 5MBps to 15 MBps and never able to get more than 15 MBps from uTorrent. I asked my friend and he mentioned probably due to TM only upgrade Malaysia line and not international line so whenever I download torrent from overseas, I still get around 10MBps.

What is the point of getting 800Mbps or upgrade my router to 800Mbps if international line still not able to use 800Mbps? Better downgrade back to 100Mbps to save money.

Hope fellow forumers can share their experience and correct me if I am wrong. Thanks
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It's not due to international line, it's due to throttling by TM. P2P (torrent) has been throttled again since turbo started. Youtube is also throttled to a certain extent.
Hence there were discussions about using VPNs and seedboxes, especially for torrent purposes.
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post Oct 14 2018, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(ASAP @ Oct 13 2018, 05:01 PM)
Thanks for the answer. If throttled at 15MBps for torrent, I see no point to have 800Mbps unless I miss anything. Any sifu here can share why we need 800 package? Thx
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Yes it's quite a facepalm doh.gif on TM's part. It's all their marketing ploy.
In front, give users turbo. But then behind, throttle the speeds for certain connections.
Let's just hope they stop throttling once they settle everything or when 'pilot' is over.

As for why the need for turbo, well other than torrent and youtube, every thing else seems not throttled so far.
Downloading from other sites, ftp, windows update, apple, adobe, google drive, etc should still give you max speeds.

QUOTE(ASAP @ Oct 13 2018, 05:42 PM)
RM300++. Can’t remember exactly.

May I know what VPN I can use to fully utilize the 800 Mbps for torrent? Last time streamyx I used BolehVPN.
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If for torrent purposes, get a seedbox. It was discussed in this thread some pages back.
Most VPNs won't let you achieve max speed. And seedbox is a much better, hassle-free solution especially for torrenting/downloading.

QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 13 2018, 06:12 PM)
My torrents (no VPN) aren't being throttled. Yet. Getting about 400-450Mbps on Turbo500 on both my usual test Centos torrent was well as well seeded, highly illegal and IP infringing torrents. Will test again when I get my Turbo800.

I've heard from someone that TM isn't doing any traffic shaping just yet.
To be honest, 95% of the day, I don't go above 150Mbps.
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I guess you are 1 of the lucky ones bro. I read your previous posts regarding this too.
I've personally tested the CentOS torrents you mentioned, torrents on private and public trackers, all of which are for sure well seeded, and all multiple times. Was never able to go higher than 15MB/s (I'm on 500Mbps, so technically 62.5MB/s). On other sites I'm able to get upto 68MB/s download speeds.

Pretty sure TM is throttling. Many of us have reported since turbo started (V34).
Anyway I'll try to post a video on TM throttling youtube too. See if others are facing the same thing.
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post Oct 14 2018, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 14 2018, 02:20 AM)
Also don't forget that average packet size for torrents are smaller than a http/ftp download so your router performance will play a part, even with NAT boost. My area is Sungai Long in case any of you are around here.

Additionally, if you're on Windows, Spectre/Meltdown microcode issues limiting your PC's network performance. This one have to ask johnlai. I'm on a Mac.

The easiest way to test by experimentation is to torrent with and without VPN. If VPN makes a difference then you know that TM is shaping the traffic. I don't use a VPN so I can't say.
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As mentioned in my previous post, I'm able to get 68MB/s download speeds on certain sites. And yeah consistent speeds I mean. So I don't think my PC's network is having any performance issues.

Anyway I just tested the Centos torrent using my iMac to make sure. Wasn't able to go beyond 10MB/s. =[

I'll post the video regarding youtube throttling later. Hope you guys can help test if it's the same.

QUOTE(vez @ Oct 14 2018, 02:21 AM)
i tired private torrent at my friend house 800Mbps UniFi, no issue getting full speed ~90MBps, his computer using SSD, not sure will affect speed if normal hdd smile.gif
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Is your friend using VPN? I'm using SSD too (NVMe), so don't think that's the issue.
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post Oct 14 2018, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 14 2018, 04:07 AM)
68MBps on torrent or non-torrent?

10 MBps for the Centos torrent is definitely not OK. What iMac? What router?

If you feel TM is shaping your torrents then VPN is your only choice. If you don't assume that then you can look at other possible causes.
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Non-torrent. Haven't been able to achieve good speeds on torrent. iMac is retina 5k (2015) i7 16gb. Router is rt-ac68u.

Have tried a number of VPNs too. Unfortunately all tested given slower speed than without VPN. sweat.gif
If you have any VPN recommendations that can support turbo on torrents, pls let me know I'll try.

QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 14 2018, 05:56 AM)
Just testing out a new router, the Mikrotik hAP AC2.

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Full speed on Turbo500 for Centos torrent. My previous router Rb750Gr3 could only manage 42MBps but it's not a fair comparison since the new router just has a basic default config.
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Is my rt-ac68u the bottleneck? What's the minimum requirements to be able to handle torrents at turbo speed.

QUOTE(ASAP @ Oct 14 2018, 08:16 AM)
I am trying NordVPN but the downloading seems only slightly better than normal speed. Hmmmm.
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To avoid all these speed issues on torrents like ours, hence I'm suggesting using seedboxes.
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post Oct 14 2018, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(vez @ Oct 14 2018, 10:50 AM)
nope, didnt use VPN
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What router?
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post Oct 14 2018, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(vez @ Oct 14 2018, 11:26 AM)
he uses Asus router, not sure which model could be 68U or the latest 86U, i remember have 3 antenna

but i use my private torrent to try at his house, do you use private torrent tracker?
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Yes private tracker (IPT), tested on well seeded torrents too.
I'm also using asus, rt-ac68u. But both 68u and 86u have 3 antennas.
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post Oct 14 2018, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Oct 14 2018, 11:51 AM)
so, even using IPT cannot get full turbo speed on lan?

my using IPT now always max out at 100mbps
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Yeah LAN.
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post Oct 14 2018, 01:25 PM

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Can you guys do this test?
Basically download large Youtube videos using IDM to see if the speed is throttled.

- Search youtube for "long 4k video"
- Click on any video. We just want to test DLing large videos from youtube servers.
eg: 1st one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnhvanMdx4s
- Using IDM or your DL manager, DL the 4k quality video.
- Monitor the speed.

For me:
* The DL always starts at full speed. Goes upto >60MB/s (maxes out 500Mbps).
* Will quickly drop to around 20MB/s.
* Each time pausing and resuming it will burst to >60MB/s and then for sure drop to 20MB/s again.
As per my video below.


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post Oct 14 2018, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(alfredhow78 @ Oct 14 2018, 01:42 PM)
me too. it happens not only to youtube, but to other hostings as well. I am downloading from Google Drive.
I am on 800Mbps Plan.
Idk if my hardware is bottlenecking the download speed or the ISP is trotting the download speed.

I get full speed on speedtest.
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It's likely throttling on youtube. Not sure about google drive. Since youtube also belongs to google, TM maybe throttling google altogether.

I should add for eg: I can DL the adobe installers and ios firmwares from these links at full speed.
https://helpx.adobe.com/sea/download-instal...-downloads.html
http://www.iphonehacks.com/download-iphone-ios-firmware

Feel free to test the DL speeds from these.
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post Oct 14 2018, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(ASAP @ Oct 14 2018, 02:05 PM)
Hi Could you suggest a good seed box to use with Unifi? Thx
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Others have suggested ultraseedbox and seedbox.io. But tried using their speedtest, wasn't able to achieve high speeds. Couldn't test DL with IDM unless subscribe for a package.

Personally I've tested put.io (http://put.io). Was able to get full speed thanks to their cloudflare route/servers (we can choose from many at any time).
And best thing was, some popular files especially those on public trackers, they get cached to their servers.
So if you upload those torrents to the seedbox, there's no need to wait for the torrents to finish. Can just start DLing the files immediately. Think this is awesome.

QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 14 2018, 02:19 PM)
Nice! For sure your iMac is not the bottleneck. I'm testing on my old MBPR 15" 2013 i7 16GB 10.14 and noname USB3 GbE adaptor. Even older than yours.

Not familiar with Asus router but I would look there first.

btw, what torrent client? I'm using uTorrent 1.8.7.
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I'll gladly replace the router if my rt-ac68u is the bottleneck, wanna make sure first. Planned to do it anyway.
For the mac, using uTorrent 1.8.7 also.
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post Oct 14 2018, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 14 2018, 02:49 PM)
Same here. It throttles down to 20MBps for me too. It would make sense for Youtube to throttle since you don't need such high throughput after the buffer has been filled. You only need enough speed to maintain the buffer.

That 4K video is 50GB for a 10hr video. That's only an average bitrate of 11Mbps.
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Yes agreed.
Thanks for doing the test. Somehow good to know I'm not the only one. blush.gif

QUOTE(ASAP @ Oct 14 2018, 02:50 PM)
Thanks for great advice. Will try it out myself.

I am going to get router capable of 800Mbps and may I know what router is good for 800Mbps? I am currently looking at TPLink C3150. Thx
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Can't say for sure, I'm only on 500Mbps myself.
But check the first post of this thread, the text in green. SilentVampire has made a great compilation of info and list of recommended routers.
The C3150 is in that list, so likely good enough.

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