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westlife
post Sep 6 2019, 12:12 PM

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is there any model of Linksys router works well with unifi and has native support to unifi? meaning it has the option to key in the unifi username password to create teh pppoe connection for WAN?
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post Sep 6 2019, 12:13 PM

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is there any model of Linksys router works well with unifi and has native support to unifi? meaning it has the option to key in the unifi username password to create teh pppoe connection for WAN?
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post Jul 23 2022, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Jul 20 2022, 07:32 PM)
Haha deco division sohai product manager purposely limit cannot split like usual

So better buy Asus AI mesh
By default deco only have 1 visible ssid only (of same name)

Guest network function can 1 more visible ssid (so 2 ssid visible)
But keep in mind deco mesh system also broadcasts hidden ssid for mesh purposes. So maybe 3 or 4 ssid in total depending on model
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yeah. even a old linksys wifi router with ac support also allows 2 ssids for 2.4GHz and 5GHz. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jul 23 2022, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Jul 20 2022, 09:49 PM)
Well i means actually is most dual band router by default having 2 ssid for 2 different bands (tri band router will have 3 ssid) excluding guest functions
But if turn on the "band steering" or "smart connect" function, it make the ssid be the same for both bands, and deco by default enforce such feature by default
To turn off band steering or smart connect feature, unfortunately there is no such switch in deco. Instead you have guest function also used for the workaround. Because in one ssid can individually turn off either 2.4 or 5ghz band, so you can do so that main ssid use only 5ghz and "guest function" ssid use only 2.4

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no one should turn off the band steering function rite? this is the purpose of using mesh which it switches to 5GHz as much as possible if cannot fall back to 2.4GHz.

linksys can choose to turn on and off "band steering" function. and it works quite well for me. connected to 5GHz anytime..

from the experience of deco users here. seems like deco is cheap but lacks a lot of advance settings.
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post Jul 24 2022, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jul 24 2022, 01:08 PM)
TP-Link argument is because their band steering and roaming is so good, you shouldn't need to manually switch 5GHz and 2.4GHz.

And, most of the time, it's true. Deco roaming and band steering is really top notch with almost gapless switching.

But there are still some really weird IoT stuffs out there that wouldn't work properly on such network. For more complex scenario, I would recommend ASUS AiMesh.
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indeed. Depending on how they implement all these technology actually.

So must really test to know.

My Linksys mesh has this function called client steering but it does not work so well. Band steering no issue which it always try to keep me on 5GHz. I have this prob that my speed is not consistent if client steering is on. But discovered and turn it off now gets consistent speed no issue anymore.

Now my settings
1) band steering - on
2) node steering - on
3) client steering - off

Works well. Going to have one more child node to see if it works even better.

Now only two nodes (parent and client).

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post Jul 24 2022, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jul 24 2022, 02:54 PM)
All of these are standards based (or they won't won't work with any random device.) With exceptions like Ubiquity's now-deprecated "Zero Handoff". Now they have "Fast Roaming" that is not 802.11r but I've no idea what this actually does.

Client steering sounds like 802.11k and/or 802.11v.
I guess node steering is like client steering but for nodes. I assume nodes are APs. If 2 nodes only, then no point lah.

Band steering is always good to have. Most clients nowadays will automatically prefer 5Ghz over 2.4Ghz anyway.

Having 2 SSIDs for 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz is kinda like human band steering.

But most important to remember is that the AP never makes the decision, it's always the device that decides which BSSID it wants to connect to. The most the AP can actively do is to kick the client off if its signal is too low. I do this on my Mikrotik APs bcos Mikrotik wifi sux, no 802.11kvr.

Lastly lowering transmit power almost always help. MY max is 30dBM or 1000mW. I have both my 5Ghz APs at 25dBM (300mW) and my 2.4Ghz at 20dBM (100mW.) This largely depends on your house and neighbours.

As blacktubi mentioned, Deco M-series works pretty well. That's my go-to APs for family & friends. Can't separate the SSIDs but that's how I like it anyway so that's fine. The only complain I have is their SmartDHCP (in AP mode) which can't be turned off. It comes on when it's unable to obtain an address from your main router and starts assigning addresses to everyone. I think they may have put in an on/off toggle for that now.
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Ic. My parent and child nodes the signals are not strong but somehow I can still can full or 90% speed most of the time
with reasonable amount of latency.

I just managed to get a 2nd hand MR8300 at quite cheap price today and I will try to add it to see if it improves further.

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post Jul 30 2022, 03:57 AM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jul 28 2022, 08:53 PM)
D-Link product?  puke.gif  puke.gif
Asus for better firmware updates.
TP-Link cheap for performance but expect lesser or no firmware updates.

ASUS>TP-Link>D-Link
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yeah... agree.... never like d-link products...

would rather go with tp-link for cheaper price but again pretty good performance.

asus wifi router, i only use during streamyx (ADSL - modem + wifi router) time.
but that time it was spoiled due to lightning strike, after that i never buy asus wifi router anymore..
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post May 22 2023, 01:05 AM

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anyone is using linksys wifi mesh here?
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post Jun 28 2023, 05:41 PM

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This one to be used as mesh wifi router good?

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post Jun 29 2023, 05:56 PM

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any idea which wireless adapter (wifi 6) is cheap, reliable and good to buy?

currently using this lousy tp-link TL-WN727N
150Mbps Wireless N USB Adapter

https://www.tp-link.com/my/home-networking/...pter/tl-wn727n/

the speed is god damn slow.

claimed to be up to 150Mbps. i can only attain about below 40Mbps of speed all the time for both download and upload.

i suspect it is due to the limitation of the USB 2.0 interface? but by rite USB 2.0 should support 480Mbps of speed.
i seriously do not know why i can only get 40Mbps???

checked through all forums online, tried different drivers etc. also the same.

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post Jun 29 2023, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 29 2023, 07:16 PM)
2.4GHz with lot of interference memang speed macam siput
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doubt it is due to interferrence. my left/right/front neighbours all empty.

even with interference, the speed probably is just inconsistent. but i am getting consitent speed so it should be due to the limit of the adapter. sad.gif
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post Jun 29 2023, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Jun 29 2023, 07:37 PM)
for any wifi or wireless (including 4g/5g) do not trust the theorical speed

there will be tons of overhead for wireless. wifi 4 (802.11n) is notorious for too much overhead and also more suspicious to interference. 150mbps adapter is most likely 1x1 antenna which will worsen the reception.

150mbps 1x1 antenna at 40mhz. usually to avoid interference most routers default to 20mhz which will half the speed to 72mbps. irl speed at 40mbps is normal due to overhead
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ic. if i can set it to higher than 20MHz on my wifi router, will it help in the speed?

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post Jun 29 2023, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Jun 29 2023, 07:42 PM)
avoid this model especially dual core one

this model notorious for overheating
tp link t20u plus is good
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no wonder it is selling at such cheap price.

thanks. will avoid it. currently i am using linksys MR8300 gaming Wifi 5 mesh router (2 x units) to cover my house (1st and 2nd floor). there is one more linksys velop dual band unit WHW0101 i used at second floor to cover the blind spot at 2nd floor.

so far so good. i can attain full speed of 300Mbps for the area covered by MR8300 tri band units.

think i will just stick to them until they fail one day. haha.



ok. thank you for the recommendation. will check it out.

for adapter, wifi 6, do they have tri-band or is there a need for tri band? as i know that for mesh wifi router, tri-band will help to get full speed as it has one extra 5GHz band for communication between the mesh router.



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post Jun 29 2023, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Jun 29 2023, 08:46 PM)
No, adapter is like receiving client. There is absolutely no need for tri band. However there is now new technology that can make use of 2 bands at the same time if router is set to smart connect (same ssid for 2 bands) to help increase some speed. Intel latest AX411 is capable of that using smart dual connect technology (DCT), for example.
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icic. thanks for the explanation.

will this adapter below be able to archieve good speed since it is AC1200 and priced at only rm65 while TP-Link Archer TX20U Plus is rm165 which is quite steep in price.

i am using it on a old PC so i may not want to spend so much on a new adapter for it. somemore my current wifi environment is only at wifi 5.

if using a wifi 6 adapter in a wifi 5 network, will it help in speed in real life comparing to wifi 5 adapter although i know that the speed will be limited to wifi 5. however, will it still help in anyway?

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post Jun 29 2023, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Jun 29 2023, 09:00 PM)
okay lah ac1300 is also good enough. but this design no high gain antenna. if go for tplink t4u got high gain antenna
if using a wifi 6 adapter in a wifi 5 network, will it help in speed in real life comparing to wifi 5 adapter although i know that the speed will be limited to wifi 5. however, will it still help in anyway?
not at all significant, still same, maybe slightly better reception
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icic. thanks for the sharing.

high gain antenna is just to enhance the range of receiving/transmiting the signal to/fro between my pc and the wifi router rite? so as to improve the speed as well eventually?

if that's the case, it is not so crucial since my pc is in my room and my mesh wifi router is also in my room.
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post Jun 29 2023, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 29 2023, 09:47 PM)
your pc in your room and mesh wifi router in your room too why no connect ethernet cable to pc? 😅
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both are two different corner. do not want to have super long cable lying around. tongue.gif

and i could not move the mesh wifi router becos it is now at the best spot to connect to the mesh wifi router (main) downstair. it took me months to discover this best spot in my room, so cannot move.

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post Feb 20 2024, 05:36 AM

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QUOTE(Wombat0 @ Feb 19 2024, 10:52 PM)
Any recommendations for a wifi extender?

House type: Condo
Size of house: 1 floor, 1500sqf
Features required: a wifi extender to address wifi dead spot in my gaming room or lounge room (depending where I place the main router). Prefer low latency and not to technical to setup.
Number of devices connected to WiFi: 3-4
Internet Speed: 100mbps
Budget: <200 MYR
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Nowadays no one will use wifi extender this kind of electrical waste for wifi expansion anymore.

Ur budget is impossible to get anything that can help in ur prob at all.

Go and get a decent wifi 5 tri-band mesh system at least by expanding ur tight budget.
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post Apr 20 2024, 08:09 PM

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is there any affordable but good overall performance in terms of coverage/speed/latency wifi mesh i can buy to use in the apartment (abt 882 sq ft) i stay now?
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post Jul 7 2024, 03:12 AM

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which model of wifi 6 and 7 model will be sufficient to cover a 882 sq ft two bedrooms and 2 bathrooms apartment unit?

just want to go for a minimum model that can do the job.

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post Oct 12 2024, 10:57 PM

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TP-link Archer BE550 WiFi 7 tri-band is the price now at rm712 good to grab?

if only 1 unit, enough to cover an apartment unit of 882 sq ft?

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