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 Guide: Bikers 101, The codes, and how to not die

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mypie
post Sep 16 2018, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Sep 11 2018, 03:41 PM)
Agreed! And I think I'm a bit over the top with this, even the slightest wheel turn of a car (on a straight road), I will bleep my horn (not because angry but just to make sure the car knows that I am there).
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I somewhat about skeptical in this. I prefer brake over horn. Horn is like hey driver, I'm here, please make necessary adjustment for my safety. Brake is more on me making adjustment for my own safety. I prefer in control rather put my safety on someone else who may or may not notice. Furthermore bike can always out maneuver and overtake car during traffic jam every time so choose the safest time.
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post Sep 19 2018, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Sep 18 2018, 11:24 PM)
For your first point, refer back to my 1st page post with some visual. Your sentences is all over the place so i'm not sure what exactly you're trying to contribute here.
If a >600cc bike "thinks" that the spot is NOT wide enough for himself, at least DON'T block it for everyone else la. I myself ride a z900 for first bike and have no experience riding any smaller bikes, but i am well aware that i am not the king of the road, unlike you who look down on kapchai and don't want to give way to kapchai saying stupid shit like "Naik kapcai ada hak istimewa kah?"

For your second point, that's a good summary of what i just wrote, so agree that DO NOT RIDE A MOTORCYCLE WITH A FEELING OF SELF-ENTITLEMENT, and you riding and eating up 1 lane and keeps on following a car at their blindspot or making it hard for them to switch lane because you're speedmatching, then when car want to switchlane - you go cut and horn horn thinking you own the road. Also, it's quite annoying that my car has a blindspot monitor which lights up my sidemirror and gives intermittent beeps forever as the bikes just fking sticks around forever.

In summary, riding a motorcycle as if you're driving a car is a stupid idea in Malaysia at least. That's what i learned from multiple close call during my first 9 months on the road on a motorcycle. However on my 20+ years of car driving experience, is only very rarely i see bikes do that - so now i'm guessing they are just new riders, hence this post is to educate newer rider. Care to contribute instead of ego-boosting yourself? Ya most probly your comeback will be like "wah gua boss riding 99years what u 9months old noob know la - judging by the way your responses are rolleyes.gif
Yeap, it is what it is, sad right - even with me riding a motorcycle, i still give no mercy to motorcyclist trying to act like a gangster when i'm driving a car. Without a doubt, you'll get sideswiped if you met the wrong person. So don't risk road-raging, i myself won't roadrage when on a bike.
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Wow.. so much anger, are you Romano Fenati in disguise. shocking.gif

There is thousand reason on why rider do what they do and many more obstacle on why they didn't do what they suppose to do. For filtering, some time the gap get narrower I stuck between 2 cars. With no where to go I stop at what ever point I am. You see, while filtering is legal, it is not in any way become your right, it is merely an opportunity. So when you stuck, just treat it as lost of opportunity. honking neither make you go any faster nor make me move.

At one time, I accidentally rode so fast and left my gang so far behind and need to slow down for them to catch back. Riding below speed limit in highway is dangerous. What I did is follow closely behind moving car. In any case if the other vehicle did not see me, at least they will see the car to which I attach. This is defensive riding. If some rider match your car speed, this might be a valid reason thus the 101 guide no 10.

Oh.. your Z900 literary small to my bike, and this might be why we have a difference riding approach. Just enjoy your ride.

mypie
post May 19 2019, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ May 17 2019, 03:14 PM)
stay on the left most lane when queuing the light, especially when  your bike are the 1st to arrive at the junction, car driver especially tend not to see bike stopping even in a broad day light..
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If I were the first to arrive, I would rather be in the middle of the lane. Yes, it is a bad choice but car driver who can't see a stopping bike in front is a distracted driver and will hit you even if you on the left most side. By stopping in the middle, the car will hit your bike, not you. The mass and the chassis of the bike will absorb most of the impact energy and transfer to you as a secondary impact with much less energy. Yes you get thrown away from the car which is better than under the car.

By stopping at the left side, there is high probability for the car directly hit you especially you leg and flip you under the car. It is also the reason I ride in the middle of the lane when I ride slow. The idea is not to give enough space for the car behind or incoming to filter trough. Yea, the thing most hated by car driver is seeing bike filtering during jam but given a chance, car will do the same if rider is slow. This is dangerous and where hit and run case usually happen.

The other benefits of riding in the middle is if car do filtering beside you, you still have enough space to move aside to a proper tarmac, not to dirt or grass or longkang.

Lastly, if accident do happen, your bike being in the middle will block the car from running away.
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post May 27 2019, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 20 2019, 07:56 AM)
there is case where the driver is having seizure, n the car just plow tru everthing @ high speed.
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Like I said in the bold part.
QUOTE(mypie @ May 19 2019, 11:49 PM)
If I were the first to arrive, I would rather be in the middle of the lane. Yes, it is a bad choice but car driver who can't see a stopping bike in front is a distracted driver and will hit you even if you on the left most side. By stopping in the middle, the car will hit your bike, not you.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 20 2019, 02:10 PM)
idiot driver tak sabar wana cut u.. n u riding in the middle..

he will purposely cut u so close n might even knock u off cos he is  'angry' at u blocking.
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Idiot... yes, psychopath... no. No sane man will purposely hit you with a very least reason is the don't want to calar their car. Hopefully I don't encounter one.

QUOTE(TheOnly @ May 26 2019, 02:00 AM)
1. stopping at the middle is very bad, target fixation for cars do happen also, if the whole traffic light you're the only thing stopped at the middle.... errr.. I would much rather take my chances and stop at the left side or right side with my leg resting on the divider.

I don't take up a whole lane, i will try to stop at the most extreme left/right so cars can blow past me if they wish.
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Riding bike is dangerous in nature. You don't take a chance and hope for the good. Instead you plan and control the future outcome. Wise man say 'a fail to plan is a plan to fail'. Wise man also say 'in order to predict the future... you create it'. Dont assume, other people wish might not inline with your wish. Explaination below...

QUOTE(basilisk @ May 20 2019, 02:10 PM)
he will purposely cut u so close n might even knock u off cos he is 'angry' at u blocking.
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QUOTE(TheOnly @ May 26 2019, 02:00 AM)
You are contradicting yourself, you know it's dangerous, you know car driver hates that the most and will easily trigger roadrage, and you know cars will filter your slow ass.
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By purposely ride a the middle you control when the driver can overtake you. Both of you stated the same outcome. I bet anybody will do. People get angry and easly trigger.
Angry is a result of you controlling them. Nobody likes to be control by others. I can deal with angry driver because angry is intention behaviour and intension will only be execute in control manner. What I can't deal is careless driver missjudge the availabe space to filter and unintensionally hit you.

QUOTE(TheOnly @ May 26 2019, 02:00 AM)
they will squeeze, tailgate, and most probally cut straight in front of you because you treat the road like your father's. NOTE: you said you're riding slow, if ride slow takkan u still cannot react to cars in front masuk your lane?
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Now me and the driver behind being inline. Since you can predict the outcome, you can take necessary precaution. You have enough space on your left to play.

QUOTE(TheOnly @ May 26 2019, 02:00 AM)
Also, there is no such thing as crumple zone for bike, dude - bikes are made stiff, for performance and reliability for such a small "volume" of vehicle, if someone bang your bike no matter where, you can bet your ass all the kinetic energy will transfer to the rider.
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I'm not talking abuut crumple zone. I would rather someone bang my bile and get trown than bang on me and get splatted.

QUOTE(TheOnly @ May 26 2019, 02:00 AM)
remember it's an accident already, shit's unpredictable, ppl might confuse brake/gas pedal, the car might not be able to stop in time, the 2 cars BEHIND might bang the one infront and run you over, the driver might panic and go "o fuk it i ain''t stopping, later rempit group come" and etc etc etc
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Yes, accident do happen.

Lastly... aware of your surrounding at all time, I left out the basic thing like always looking at the side mirror and gradually slowing down at teh trafic light. Make your intension be known by others behind because control works both way.


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post May 27 2019, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ May 27 2019, 08:58 AM)
When the road is not in a jam, I never ride slow. Usually I will be a bit faster than other vehicles. If there is a faster car behind me, see first what car, if it is a 400 HP car, I'll give way. If not, I'll pull away. tongue.gif
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Me too. But sometime you need to wait your slower colic to catch up. And whe I i ride slow, it mean a tad slower the average current traffic speed. Not till hogging la.
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post May 31 2019, 12:36 AM

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It's ok bro. I'm merely saying how and why I did it that way. I'm not saying it's the right way. Don't do it if you not comfortable with it. Don't do it because someone say so. It is not everybody cups of tea.
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post Jul 16 2019, 08:43 AM

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Clearly the bike is in the wrong lane but this is the case of careless driver misjudged the available space. Block the entire lane or move away. Send a clear message. Don't put yourself in 50/50 situations.





 

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