Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

> Qing Dynasty photos of commoners

views
     
wanted111who
post Aug 26 2018, 09:21 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
535 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Aug 26 2018, 09:15 AM)
We've been misled by the extravagant costumes of Chinese dramas whether Taiwan,  HK or mainland productions, where even the beggars are fat n wear clean new clothes.

Let's look at some real photos of commoners in those days.  Of course where the photos are posed the people dressed up for the photos as it's not as easy as today to hv photos taken. And such photos are of relatively well off commoners.







Poor folks



Mixed

[/YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/sWon8MPCNMk[YOUTUBE]
*
Fixed for you, I also want see see look look

wanted111who
post Aug 26 2018, 09:33 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
535 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
No beautiful lady and handsome young man last time. Maybe the geographical (yunnan and northern people), diet, etc. Pic from 1930/ww2 era is different, can see beauty and handsome lad.
wanted111who
post Aug 26 2018, 09:40 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
535 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
QUOTE(arc_archive @ Aug 26 2018, 09:35 AM)
Pls include the time span of the era. Not everyone knows when was the Qing era period n no hab time too giggle..

Kuku jiao panjang... i mean kuku panjang macam mak lampir
*
The year probably around 1880-1900. Camera was invented during american civil war and movie is around 1880++
Pic where you see male without pig tail is around 1900 ( during this time many cut off their pigtail.

1911 mark fall of qing dynasty.

QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Aug 26 2018, 09:35 AM)
It's just the styling that makes the difference.
*
Nope, not because of styling. I mean I look at their face. Let me know if you spot any beautiful lady / handsome guys. Let's research together.

Also you have pic from Southern china? Maybe there we can see more han people and they might be good looking.

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Aug 26 2018, 09:43 AM
wanted111who
post Aug 26 2018, 10:02 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
535 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Aug 26 2018, 09:53 AM)
I do think it's just styling difference. And perception of what's beautiful.

No particular region has more beautiful ppl than another.  That's just parochial prejudices.

What makes u think all the photos are of non-han  ppl?
*
Don't know, just from the look. At the first video those who smoke opiym look like han people. And those monarch and soldier is manchu.

I watch many china 1930 video. The facial is clearly very different.
wanted111who
post Aug 26 2018, 10:12 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
535 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Aug 26 2018, 10:03 AM)
Pls post
*


Hong Kong 1930. 12 years before ww2
wanted111who
post Aug 26 2018, 10:21 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
535 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Aug 26 2018, 10:19 AM)
Styling changed so much already.

Just saw this


*
Ok the first pic got beauty. After all cannot .
You can find hong kong 1880 video?

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Aug 26 2018, 10:23 AM
wanted111who
post Aug 26 2018, 10:32 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
535 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
QUOTE(Xumu @ Aug 26 2018, 10:18 AM)
Lol so where are the pictures of poor people? You saying Europe everyone rich? Even today we have beggers with rags in KL. What makes you think Europe won't have any those days? Why you're comparing pics of Europe wealthy people with China poor people, then claim Europe better kept and more advanced?  Bodoh tu simpan sikit la
So much jilat penjajah mentality coming from you
*
What he said is true, not saying there is no poor people in uk but the street really are cleaner because the government is very wealthy after robbing from india, malaya, africa, middle east and China (opium) + hong kong + shanghai.
wanted111who
post Aug 26 2018, 06:39 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
535 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
QUOTE(tdzheng @ Aug 26 2018, 10:52 AM)
Those pictures are usually during the time when famine and civil war, if late 1800s the Qing dynasty is already on its last legs, government defunct and ridden with opium, no different when it fall, maybe worse during Chiang kai shek’s time as I heard a British missionary said there’s dead bodies on the streets and these elites don’t see them as human, it’s no wonder why communism too over so fast.
*
In 1911-1930 , it's actually the replubic of china getting the upper hand over communists china. Communist china is reduced to only 1 single provience until the japanese attack china in 1932. Both republic china and communist china agreed on ceasefire to fight against japanese agressor.

After world war 2 ended. China civil war resume where both republic china and communist china is on equal footings. Republic china lost to communist because whenever communist china take over city, they open the granary to give good to the people + spreading propaganda like " before revolution, we are the slave to the nobles. After revolution, we are the slave to the slave", making them getting more and more influence in China as people savior. Yes, a bag of grain is winning the war for communist china. Losing the battle, Republic china fled to taiwan.

That's why taiwan claimed they are the real china. If we look back at the the Chinese national flag in 1920, its the koumintang flag (white star with blue circle) which was used by taiwan until today.

Japanese occupation changing the china history forever.

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Aug 26 2018, 06:45 PM
wanted111who
post Aug 26 2018, 09:11 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
535 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
QUOTE(Hobbez @ Aug 26 2018, 07:55 PM)
Amazing how a few generations of better nutrition/diet can change entire populations....

In fact the whole world was shorter and smaller 100 years ago, compared to today. So a lot of movies where they showing the era is olden days is simply NOT accurate, especially if it depicts Asia.

Because the people looked different back then (worse looking mostly) and smaller size.
*
QUOTE(Hobbez @ Aug 26 2018, 07:58 PM)
Better diet/nutrition.
*
This is certainly interesting thought - is it because of diet or is it because of gene? Hard to tell.

Yunnan lady present day.

Attached Image

Attached Image

There are some lady who look like lady in old photo, some are beautiful, because of diet or because of mix breeding?

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Aug 26 2018, 09:14 PM
wanted111who
post Aug 26 2018, 10:35 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
535 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
QUOTE(Hobbez @ Aug 26 2018, 09:26 PM)
Take something like "height". Humans have definitely grown taller over the past 100 years.

http://content.time.com/time/health/articl...1820836,00.html

Don't forget nowadays we got make up and last time women have no make up. No plastic surgery...

Last time, fat women considered beautiful also.....

Nowadays, even people around 50 years old, still look like 30s, but such a phenomenon was unthinkable 100-70 years ago.

People expected to grow old at 50 and become grandpa and grandma. They never exercise also. They had no gym, no knowledge about health.

Not any more these days.....
*
You're right I guessed. With improved food science, we can get access to better and safer food nutrients and improving our lifestyle, health and longevity.

Compare to old time where life expectancy is low, around 50-60 years, ( I guessed from the age of each longest servings emporer kangxi and yong zheng who died of old age)


Bump Topic Add ReplyOptions New Topic
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0171sec    0.29    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 14th December 2025 - 06:08 AM