Just got my pocophone today. Thank God my unit has no backlight bleeding and poor reception as many claimed 😅
Xiaomi Pocophone F1, Flagship Killer with Killer Price
Xiaomi Pocophone F1, Flagship Killer with Killer Price
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Sep 17 2018, 12:27 AM
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Just got my pocophone today. Thank God my unit has no backlight bleeding and poor reception as many claimed 😅
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Oct 5 2018, 09:58 AM
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Hey guys, what are your opinions on QuickCharge 4.0? I realize that it's a technology no one talks about and most manufacturer don't include it in the box. Can't find charging speed test on YouTube as well
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Oct 5 2018, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Oct 5 2018, 10:40 AM) I think most people or manufacturer care less for version, yes it's faster than 3.0 but most people already satisfied with QC3.0 I don't think its just faster, its generally more efficient. QC 4+ reduces heat and has higher wattage. Reduced heat=Ability to charge and use your phone with more or less the same charging speed(similar to Dash Charge), which also increases the natural life cycle of battery from lower temperature. I feel like its very important, and it should be as common as QC 3.0 as well I suspect QC4.0 charger are more expensive in terms of cost, as it require dual management IC, and USB-PD compatible. Maybe that's why many manufacturers still stick to QC3.0 Personally I care only USB-PD, as it's universal standard AND can delivery much much higher power ( 100W to laptop |
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Oct 5 2018, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Sigint @ Oct 5 2018, 12:08 PM) Yup, it's mainly due to licensing cost thus why we literally never see the latest QC standards even on the latest flagships and the reason why most manufacturers create their own specification on fast charging. Qualcomm charge a hefty sum to both mobile and accessory manufacturer if they wish to have QC implemented into their hardware. I just hope that one day every company will use the same fast charging concept as VOOC/Dash Charge, cause even after Qualcomm developed the Quick Charge technology to 4+, its still nowhere near as efficient as Oppo, OnePlus and Huawei. For the licensing cost, its really stupid because flagship companies are charging RM2-3k. Some even 4-5k! So licensing cost is more like a lame and cheap excuse for them not to include the latest and the most efficient technology right inside the box In my book, OPPO's VOOC a.k.a. Dash Charge still have the best implementation thus far for fast charging on a mobile device but likewise it's completely proprietary just like Qualcomm's QC technology. QUOTE(Someonesim @ Oct 5 2018, 02:53 PM) It's all true, but manufacturer care about cost only For Pocophone, its forgivable or even generous for them to include Quick Charge 3.0 adapter within the box. But its kind of illogical and unforgivable for other companies to charge RM2000-3000 for a smartphone, yet to not include latest technology right inside the box. If their excuse is to cut cost, then I honestly find it bullshit. There are many other components that are much more expensive to produce, a simple charger licensing shouldn't be a dent for the price they're charging. And yes, the Apple's packaging are getting more and more absurd and ridiculous tbh ehem*fruit-company didnt include fast charger in their latest expensive flagship, hell even cheapskate and pull out headphone jack adapter that cost few dollars only |
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Oct 6 2018, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Oct 5 2018, 06:12 PM) I dun care about QC, they should attached 5k mah battery Super VOOC can charge the device from 0 to 100% in 30 minutes, and that's INCLUDING display on. What's the purpose of capacity anymore if we can charge at such speed that can last practically the whole day?So i can caj during sleep at night only UBL, twrp, custom rom |
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Oct 6 2018, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 6 2018, 04:55 PM) However there is plenty of doubts especially fast charging isn't good for the battery. It will degrade faster. True or not there isn't any proof yet. Anyway besides initial testing, I had refrained from using those Oppo fast charging, VOCC charging. The normal QC2.0 is sufficiently good enough for me That's the case for Qualcomm and Samsung's quick charge. Oppo's VOOC worked by having a higher current instead of voltage. Which means there will be little to no heat produced on the battery, as all of them are distributed to the cable and adapter. QC 4+ should be more efficient and put less stress on the battery due to lower temperature. So it's not about how fast, but also the efficiency and how the power are delivered |
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Oct 7 2018, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Oct 7 2018, 05:14 PM) charging is consider a hassle. If 1 charge can last 1 to 2 days that will be better than charging half an hour. What do you mean? Charging faster is not related to the battery capacity in this case. Everyone would prefer 1-2 days of battery life with 30 mins charge than an hour of charge. |
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Oct 8 2018, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Oct 7 2018, 07:36 PM) Actually doesnt matter. Because normal ppl sleep 8 hours a day so if can last a day or two you have 8 hours to charge so 30mins is only useful if you have a small capacity battery phone. Your point is valid if you assume everyone has the same usage as you. But there are many other heavy users who would really appreciate the quick charge technology. And my point still stands, why are flagship phone still 2-3k and doesn't include latest quick charge feature over "expensive" licensing fees? |
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Oct 10 2018, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(wai57 @ Oct 9 2018, 08:45 AM) Ya ya we geddit, having super duper fast charging is amazing. But what to do if qualcomm or whatever the heck brand of fast charging decided to play hard to get? Just work around and slap a big ass battery lah, at least helps alot y'know? Leave it charge over night, it doesn't hurt to plug it in when you're resting or sleeping. What are you trying to say? Pocophone F1 has QC4+ and 4000 mah. These 2 factors are already beyond most flagship out there, which makes Poco a flagship internal hardware. If you weren't following the discussion, I was asking why other manufacturer didn't have QC4+ and include QC4+ adapter within the box? The so-called "expensive" licensing fees sounds like a lame excuse, considering Xiaomi can provide QC3.0 at a much lower price, yet most phones with 2-3x price of Poco don't even have the courtesy to include the latest technology right inside the box. Price and hardware compatibility are NOT related to what you said AT ALL, so your "Poco is not flagship" is not a valid reason for "flagship need fast charging", especially when a budget and affordable Poco has absolutely no difference in charging technology compared to "flagship"."Bla bla flagship need fasssst charging", poco is not a flagship, poco is a phone with decent 4000mah and decent charging speed. So teckyyang, maybe you will have more proper answers/replies if you bring your vooc/qc5 6 7 8 desire to the correct section of thread QUOTE(wai57 @ Oct 9 2018, 12:11 PM) Oh yeah, you're right, it's about rm2-3k flagships. Right... Wait... Ain't we in a rm1.4k price range pocophone thread here? Hmmmm weird. Answered above ^But hey, must have been awesome eh if pocophone has qc4 or vooc eh? |
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Oct 10 2018, 11:23 PM
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I'm not trying to praise/bash Poco or other phone brand, but logically speaking, we should be getting a simple and latest product such as QC4+. Honestly, is that too much to ask for? Considering the price we paid for. Let's not compare it with the iPhone, as I believe the manufacturer for the general Android market wouldn't be so low to exclude dongle and fast charger adapter.
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Oct 11 2018, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE(juneong @ Oct 11 2018, 01:48 AM) QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 11 2018, 07:00 AM) You are too simple minded based on your arguments I think I got my answer. Business strategy. I might not have the experience in manufacturing field and being too simple minded, but I'm very certain that small things like this is what brings technology one step further than before. When technology improves, who benefits? Consumer. Consumer benefit=more competition, more competition=better advancement. Looking at the bigger picture, isn't it just GENERALLY a good thing? When a company look beyond profit, the whole mobile industry leveled up in technology. Some might disagree, but my view are always in the interest of consumer getting better technology, which is both beneficial for me and you, so there's really no point in fighting back over overpriced phone, when a "budget" phone provides the same hardware feature. Just my humble opinion 😅BTW Poco is a CHEAP phone though it has high end specs. You sound as if the phone is high price?? Even high price Apple don't give you by default fast charging plug All these boil down to individual company's business strategy Other cheaper phones that gives you say faster charging doesn't necessary mean higher priced phones must follow?? Do you know how much Qualcomm charge for it's QC licence?? Company pricing will depend too on other factors too - marketing costs, production costs, QA costs etc. We don't know how they weighed these in their pricing strategy. You consider QC4 as important feature but does the manufacturer think similarly as you ?? I assumed you could still be studying and had zero experience in manufacturing?? |
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Oct 11 2018, 08:06 AM
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Anyways, I'm facing screen on issues without activating the notification screen feature. Its annoying, as sometimes my phone will unlock out of the sudden. Any solutions? 😅
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Oct 18 2018, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(Strik37 @ Oct 13 2018, 06:56 PM) Kindly highlight those videos. I have never heard of identical twins or people with similar faces bypass Face ID, at least not with the usual way of simply unlocking their phone with Face ID it's self. https://youtu.be/e8-yupM-6OcAlso it seem you are just muttering rubbish again, facial surgery will NOT grants you the same facial pattern and or the exact same unique identifier to another person you would want to look similar too, again keyword here is "similar" not a 1:1 ratio. There will always be discrepancies on a deeper level. Facial recognition technology especially advanced ones will not simply scan your face on a human eye level but rather look into minute on your overall facial appearance, same thing with fingerprint and retina scanners. Those poor lower cost fingerprint scanners you see in most offices will just take partial prints for an exact or similar enough comparison while more costly advanced ones will scan and look into finer details like 3D mapping your entire set of prints along with the outline of your thumb, the former will easily be fooled, the latter not so unless the perpetrator have the in-depth technical knowledge, resources and time to do so. |
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Nov 4 2018, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 3 2018, 10:47 AM) Note9 sucks. And note9 speakers somehow feel and sound cheap compared to s9plus speakers. Samsung definately cut costs there. So many ignorance in this post 😂😂Spen? Lol, nobody uses it nowadays. Probably use it a few times then its keptninside forever. And btw curve screen is really not good. Difficult to hold and use. Its nice to look at only. But not functional. Btw i am using s9plus. Honestly, regret kaokao buy this phone. |
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Dec 18 2018, 08:42 PM
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Anyone experiencing poor GPS signal? Having this issue since the moment I bought the phone 3 months ago 😥
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Dec 18 2018, 08:46 PM
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Dec 18 2018, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Dec 18 2018, 09:53 PM) Tak faham bro 😂😂 QUOTE(freakenstein @ Dec 18 2018, 11:10 PM) There's a setting to tweak. Day and night difference. Go settings find A-GPS settings, change the ip to supl.google.com Can you sent me a screenshot? Cause I can't find the IP setting in A-GPS 😅Used to not be able to play pokemon go without my phone keep losing GPS but after changing the settings, worked fine all the way. |
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Mar 6 2019, 12:34 PM
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Aug 29 2019, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Aug 25 2019, 11:13 PM) no poco f2 my friend Processor wise, K20 is still lower than Poco F1 tho. So I wouldn't really call it the next genthe redmi k20 pro is basically poco f1's next generation as in, specs and price wise lah. gooding phone, but if dont mind the notch then pocof1 still gooding bah |
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Jan 5 2020, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(wai57 @ Jan 3 2020, 03:37 PM) i got a new phone, and im still thinking whether to let go of my poco, its such a great phone. batttery still going strong despite sometimes charging overnight. camera still great as hell using gcam. I believed nowadays phones are equipped with overcharging protection. Which means even if you charged it overnight, the power will be cut off until the battery drops, then it will charge back to 100% again. If you're talking about QC 3.0, then that would be a different story 😅 |
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