Janganlah compare dgn Indonesia. Pls set a higher standard for yourself. 😪😪😪😪😪

Hi, UiTM dental graduate here. I found some of the replies highly undermined us UiTM & other Msian uni dental graduates and some not even answering the question at all. It is understandable that UiTM will always be under a national stigma but I'm not here to fight an endless war. Before going forth to answer your question, I'd like to clarify my position- I've had the experience of being a dental student in Indonesia & later transferred to UiTM, and graduated.

1. I take it that you're in our most recent batch, 2018? Congratulations for passing the interview. However I would like to express my disappointment to hear that you're depressed for getting in UiTM after you heard 'everyone' said UiTM graduates are incompetent. First, those 'everyone' that you speak of, have they had any dental background & maybe experience of a dental student/practitioner themselves? It is highly biased to you know, for example listen to a lawyer or a businessman to decide on the competency of a dental graduate. Second; you're losing sight of your objective here. You're very much concerned about whether you'll come out being incompetent in UiTM as 'everyone' else said. Don't think too highly of yourself. Are you competent enough to be in a dental faculty is the supposed question. I'll have you know that being in our faculty requires not little but persistent, constant drive to succeed. There's going to be a humongous amount of requirements for you to complete, competency tests in every semester to pass, annual Professional exams and a lot of tough supervisors/lecturers to handle. Think this is a walk in a park? Think again. Lots of students are held back every year for taking this course lightly. Dental faculties in any university is considered to be the hardest to graduate from. Even medicine doesn't have this much of requirement to pass. I have nothing to gain from praising the UiTM dental faculty- but being a dental student in two countries (Indo & Malaysia), the Msian dental faculty has lots more requirement & opportunities compared to Indo.

2. In UiTM you are trained to do various requirements. For example the root canal treatment in molars is known as specialty level in Indonesia & some other countries, but in UiTM it is compulsory to complete the case. For dentures, you'll need to complete 8 units (complete, partial acrylic & cobalt chrome) and most of the time, to pass the competency test you'll complete more than 8. Don't even get me started on fixed prosthodontic requirements. Oral surgery is definitely not easy- the department has very strict and no-nonsense supervisors who aren't afraid to call you out on your extractions & minor oral surgery (yes, there's going to be a time you'll perform a surgery yourself without a supervisor). You'll get less than 3 years to finish all requirements and pass all competencies. And I think its the more or less the same in other dental faculties in Malaysia. So far as I've been briefed by our external colleagues, the dental graduates in UiTM and other public universities (UM, UKM etc) are performing exemplary results in private or public sector. I guess all we can do is to continue keeping up the good work our predecessors have put forth and not be the first to blunder.

3. Regarding your plan to continue a specialty in OMFS in UM, finish your dental degree first. Build a network with oral surgeons. Can't say much if you haven't even finish the degree yet.

If you think being in UiTM will be such a problem for the sake to keep up appearances because its *UiTM*, I suggest you rethink your decision. Us dentists here aren't interested in fame & glory. We would care less what uni you're from if you've performed a great job. Any university you enter, be it Harvard or UiTM, if you're incompetent- you are at fault for being incompetent. That is what our UiTM supervisors/lecturers have cautioned us: We need to perform the best we can and serve the public, eventhough there will always be shallow-minded people who never even performed an endo molar or an extraction would talk like they know shit. I have no interest in holding up the national stigma of UiTM but us UiTM dental graduates will continue to serve the public the best we can- irregardless of what the public thinks of us.

Must compare so you know your standard. But ony compare with the good ones to set a high benchmark.

If you worry that much... then don't work with such employers... I have lots of friends from UiTM working... heard non being jobless... some of them working in big companies.

If the employers don't choose you because of that criteria... I don't think that is a criteria of a good employer...

If you afraid much... build your experience although with small company... big shots will hire you when you have enuf experience and you know how to sell yourself.

When you have experience, ppl don't see your highest education anymore.

Just relax, why bother listen to people in kopitiam? I used to think that way as well when i was a student but it just stupid bs bcos currently i have no problem getting jobs in big companies and my salary is pretty high. Heck i was even called for interview from phillip morris, so dont worry about employer throwing away resume with uitm names on it.

People are dumb to think all uitm student are useless and people from oversea grad/private college are the best bcos they’re not.

Hi, UiTM dental graduate here. I found some of the replies highly undermined us UiTM & other Msian uni dental graduates and some not even answering the question at all. It is understandable that UiTM will always be under a national stigma but I'm not here to fight an endless war. Before going forth to answer your question, I'd like to clarify my position- I've had the experience of being a dental student in Indonesia & later transferred to UiTM, and graduated.

1. I take it that you're in our most recent batch, 2018? Congratulations for passing the interview. However I would like to express my disappointment to hear that you're depressed for getting in UiTM after you heard 'everyone' said UiTM graduates are incompetent. First, those 'everyone' that you speak of, have they had any dental background & maybe experience of a dental student/practitioner themselves? It is highly biased to you know, for example listen to a lawyer or a businessman to decide on the competency of a dental graduate. Second; you're losing sight of your objective here. You're very much concerned about whether you'll come out being incompetent in UiTM as 'everyone' else said. Don't think too highly of yourself. Are you competent enough to be in a dental faculty is the supposed question. I'll have you know that being in our faculty requires not little but persistent, constant drive to succeed. There's going to be a humongous amount of requirements for you to complete, competency tests in every semester to pass, annual Professional exams and a lot of tough supervisors/lecturers to handle. Think this is a walk in a park? Think again. Lots of students are held back every year for taking this course lightly. Dental faculties in any university is considered to be the hardest to graduate from. Even medicine doesn't have this much of requirement to pass. I have nothing to gain from praising the UiTM dental faculty- but being a dental student in two countries (Indo & Malaysia), the Msian dental faculty has lots more requirement & opportunities compared to Indo.

2. In UiTM you are trained to do various requirements. For example the root canal treatment in molars is known as specialty level in Indonesia & some other countries, but in UiTM it is compulsory to complete the case. For dentures, you'll need to complete 8 units (complete, partial acrylic & cobalt chrome) and most of the time, to pass the competency test you'll complete more than 8. Don't even get me started on fixed prosthodontic requirements. Oral surgery is definitely not easy- the department has very strict and no-nonsense supervisors who aren't afraid to call you out on your extractions & minor oral surgery (yes, there's going to be a time you'll perform a surgery yourself without a supervisor). You'll get less than 3 years to finish all requirements and pass all competencies. And I think its the more or less the same in other dental faculties in Malaysia. So far as I've been briefed by our external colleagues, the dental graduates in UiTM and other public universities (UM, UKM etc) are performing exemplary results in private or public sector. I guess all we can do is to continue keeping up the good work our predecessors have put forth and not be the first to blunder.

3. Regarding your plan to continue a specialty in OMFS in UM, finish your dental degree first. Build a network with oral surgeons. Can't say much if you haven't even finish the degree yet.

If you think being in UiTM will be such a problem for the sake to keep up appearances because its *UiTM*, I suggest you rethink your decision. Us dentists here aren't interested in fame & glory. We would care less what uni you're from if you've performed a great job. Any university you enter, be it Harvard or UiTM, if you're incompetent- you are at fault for being incompetent. That is what our UiTM supervisors/lecturers have cautioned us: We need to perform the best we can and serve the public, eventhough there will always be shallow-minded people who never even performed an endo molar or an extraction would talk like they know shit. I have no interest in holding up the national stigma of UiTM but us UiTM dental graduates will continue to serve the public the best we can- irregardless of what the public thinks of us.

Did u know the founding dean is from UM? U should be grateful to be accepted into this young and progressive faculty.
If u dont have the ‘jatidiri’ then just go elsewhere, i suggest MSU in shah alam, hahahahahahahhahahaha

Then what’s the problem u asking about whether uitm is any good in the first place?? To be competent is not solely dependent on the university, its ur effort as a student to be competent. The university can trained u to be competent, but if u r not competent, its not the university’s fault. It is solely because of urself.. so the important is not to blamed others for your own fault.. lastly, all the best in becoming a dental student..