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TStangwp
post Aug 6 2018, 08:56 PM, updated 8y ago

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Hi all, my house newly renovate due to some reason I only manage to install one 2.5hp aircond in my living hall, however it seem like the aircond unable to cover the, only near to the dining area can feel the cold air, sofa area totally can’t feel anything. My living hall size is 20x26ft. Any suggestion to circulate the cold air?


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post Aug 6 2018, 09:11 PM

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Switch on the fan.
Direct blow cold air on body is not healthy anyway.
Indirect cooling is better.

If you still want directed cold air, put a stand fan
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post Aug 6 2018, 09:31 PM

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I did buy a curtain to cover the staircase area, should I leave it open while turn on the aircond?


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post Aug 6 2018, 09:44 PM

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i also have a long space like that - living, dining and open kitchen
i got two aircon units, one 1hp at the dining and one 1.5hp at the living area

surprisingly the 1hp is cooler feeling that the 1.5hp when i am sitting on my sofa watching tv.


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post Aug 7 2018, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Aug 6 2018, 09:44 PM)
i also have a long space like that - living, dining and open kitchen
i got two aircon units, one 1hp at the dining and one 1.5hp at the living area

surprisingly the 1hp is cooler feeling that the 1.5hp when i am sitting on my sofa watching tv.
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The 1hp is York cooling king and the 1.5hp is Panasonic Econavi?
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post Aug 7 2018, 05:24 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Aug 7 2018, 12:45 AM)
The 1hp is York cooling king and the 1.5hp is Panasonic Econavi?
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post Aug 7 2018, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(tangwp @ Aug 6 2018, 09:31 PM)
I did buy a curtain to cover the staircase area, should I leave it open while turn on the aircond?
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You need to provide us the floor plan to see your ground floor shape and size. Otherwise very hard to see how your aircon best placement.

From this pic, that wall beside the staircase is the best place for aircon to cover both dining and living hall.

Or a ceiling type of aircon.

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post Aug 7 2018, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 7 2018, 08:17 AM)
You need to provide us the floor plan to see your ground floor shape and size. Otherwise very hard to see how your aircon best placement.

From this pic, that wall beside the staircase is the best place for aircon to cover both dining and living hall.

Or a ceiling type of aircon.

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post Aug 7 2018, 08:02 PM

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Here is my floor plan.
Blue colour is my living hall and dining area
Rea colour is my Aircond locate
Green colour is celling fan locate.



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post Aug 8 2018, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(tangwp @ Aug 7 2018, 08:02 PM)
Here is my floor plan.
Blue colour is my living hall and dining area
Rea colour is my Aircond locate
Green colour is celling fan locate.
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Just the living hall, require over 23000btu aircon. That is about 3hp aircon.

You can

1) use the CASSETTE type (ceiling) aircon which cover 360° of the living hall
2) a 2hp with ceiling fan to circulate the cool air

You can place direct ontop the TV area wall for not the CASSETTE type. It provide a direct cool air blow to sofa area and the window glass side.

Leave the 2.5hp on the dining area if you don't want to shift it.

* Mitsubishi have certain model that have the feature of wide and long air flow.

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post Aug 9 2018, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 8 2018, 11:28 AM)
Just the living hall, require over 23000btu aircon. That is about 3hp aircon.

You can

1) use the CASSETTE type (ceiling) aircon which cover 360° of the living hall
2) a 2hp with ceiling fan to circulate the cool air

You can place direct ontop the TV area wall for not the CASSETTE type. It provide a direct cool air blow to sofa area and the window glass side. 

Leave the 2.5hp on the dining area if you don't want to shift it.

* Mitsubishi have certain model that have the feature of wide and long air flow.

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Initially it have a aircond point on the tv console area, however due to interior design we decide to seal the aircond piping. The contractor said it’s ok to just install a 2.5hp on the dining area and it won’t affect much.
But after I move in I realize the 2.5hp can cover my whole area, cassette aircond require lower plaster ceiling, that’s why I didn’t go for that option.
I would like to try use fan to circulate the air in the area. Btw what is the correct direction for the ceiling fan air circulation. Clockwise/ anti clockwise?

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post Aug 9 2018, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(tangwp @ Aug 9 2018, 12:44 PM)
Initially it have a aircond point on the tv console area, however due to interior design we decide to seal the aircond piping. The contractor said it’s ok to just install a 2.5hp on the dining area and it won’t affect much.
But after I move in I realize the 2.5hp can cover my whole area, cassette aircond require lower plaster ceiling, that’s why I didn’t go for that option.
I would like to try use fan to circulate the air in the area. Btw what is the correct direction for the ceiling fan air circulation. Clockwise/ anti clockwise?
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Have you adjust the airflow louvre permanently to the right?
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post Aug 9 2018, 09:46 PM

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Let me make a wild guess
U bought ur sofa set and dining table + chairs from couch design? hmm.gif
Looks familiar biggrin.gif

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post Aug 9 2018, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(tangwp @ Aug 6 2018, 09:56 PM)
Hi all, my house newly renovate due to some reason I only manage to install one 2.5hp aircond in my living hall, however it seem like the aircond unable to cover the, only near to the dining area can feel the cold air, sofa area totally can’t feel anything. My living hall size is 20x26ft. Any suggestion to circulate the cold air?
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wrong installation place. that large area needs to use CASSETTE type. use YORK or DAIKIN for fast cooling. need to close loop hole otherwise still not feel cool. hall no need to use inverter type. waste more energy.
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post Aug 10 2018, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(tangwp @ Aug 6 2018, 08:56 PM)
Hi all, my house newly renovate due to some reason I only manage to install one 2.5hp aircond in my living hall, however it seem like the aircond unable to cover the, only near to the dining area can feel the cold air, sofa area totally can’t feel anything. My living hall size is 20x26ft. Any suggestion to circulate the cold air?
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1stly of coz you had already know, the aircond location are not correct, by this location, you may still had a bit feel when the whole area is fill up by cold air but that will take you a very long time. you dont really need to cover the staircases coz hot air go up and cold air go down usually

so solve it, may be you need to consider to relocate the aircond to front area facing to dining / living, that will give u better cold air in living and by helping of the living hall fan will able to transfer some to dining hall.
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post Aug 10 2018, 03:13 AM

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Buy a casette unit
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post Aug 10 2018, 04:46 AM

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You can consider try using dyson air multiplier (or maybe a knock off one from China). It doesn’t work well at normal room temperature without air conditioning. But if the air conditioner is on, it works quite well redirecting the cold air.
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post Aug 10 2018, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(lifeislikeadream @ Aug 10 2018, 04:46 AM)
You can consider try using dyson air multiplier (or maybe a knock off one from China). It doesn’t work well at normal room temperature without air conditioning. But if the air conditioner is on, it works quite well redirecting the cold air.
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Interesting, what it does actually?
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post Aug 10 2018, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Aug 10 2018, 08:53 AM)
Interesting, what it does actually?
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A better looking or overrated stand fan, some would say, that would match your modern looking living room. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 10 2018, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(lifeislikeadream @ Aug 10 2018, 04:46 AM)
You can consider try using dyson air multiplier (or maybe a knock off one from China). It doesn’t work well at normal room temperature without air conditioning. But if the air conditioner is on, it works quite well redirecting the cold air.
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This is a good idea also. It suck the cold air from dining hall where the aircon is.
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post Aug 10 2018, 11:40 AM

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Actually i also have similar problem where to put my indoor unit. It's an open concept dining - living and I do not want my kitchen to be air conditioned. Both living and dining has its own ceiling fan but aircond in the living area is a must.

There are two options 1 and 2

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Cassette unit is not an option.




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post Aug 10 2018, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Aug 9 2018, 01:41 PM)
Have you adjust the airflow louvre permanently to the right?
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I did adjust permanently direct to right, but seem like doesn’t help.
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QUOTE(Mr. Najib Razak @ Aug 9 2018, 09:46 PM)
Let me make a wild guess
U bought ur sofa set and dining table + chairs from couch design? hmm.gif
Looks familiar biggrin.gif
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I bought both item separetely, Gucca furniture for sofa, Celine for dining
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QUOTE(tangwp @ Aug 10 2018, 12:47 PM)
I did adjust permanently direct to right, but seem like doesn’t help.
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like that definitely wont reach the sofa area, unless you put a fan at the side to blow air to sofa.
you can install another aircond beside the curtain.


if u could show the other side of the hall would be better.
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post Aug 10 2018, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(tangwp @ Aug 10 2018, 12:47 PM)
I did adjust permanently direct to right, but seem like doesn’t help.
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Not sure why you follow the contractor suggest to put the aircon in the dinning area. Since you plan to dinning at that area.

It is pretty bad idea unless the aircon is far abit and smaller hp.

Your food cold down fast even before eat and can't enjoy a long dinning.

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post Aug 10 2018, 01:56 PM


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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Aug 10 2018, 11:40 AM)
Actually i also have similar problem where to put my indoor unit. It's an open concept dining - living and I do not want my kitchen to be air conditioned. Both living and dining has its own ceiling fan but aircond in the living area is a must.

There are two options 1 and 2

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Cassette unit is not an option.
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Option 2 with a partition between living room and kitchen.
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May I suggest you get a unit of air cooler... to circulate the air to the tv area.
http://www.sec.com.my/morgan-air-cooler
this is the cheapest solution..

Or add 1 more 1hp aircond above the TV.

Or move the existing aircond to above tv... then use standfan for the dining area...
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post Aug 10 2018, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Aug 10 2018, 01:56 PM)
Option 2 with a partition between living room and kitchen.
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lol no we want open concept not partition here and here like old style
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post Aug 10 2018, 03:55 PM

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Wont it be smelly for the whole unit if u dining hall is air conditioned?

Unless u have cooker hood?
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Aug 10 2018, 02:35 PM)
lol no we want open concept not partition here and here like old style
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Even a sliding glass/polycarbonate door can do if want complete isolation of the cold air.
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This is a bit out there but......
Make a plastic casing/louver that hangs right in front of the AC outlet, diverting air to the right. I did a flat piece for my AC to divert airflow to the ground because I dont like AC to my face.

1. You have to be creative and design the thing.
2. Any advertising shop (the ones that make billboards) can make anything using glue and transparent plastic. Think custom made cooker exhaust like char kwey teow stall.
3. Hang it with reverse 3M plastic wall hooks (assuming York design has somewhere to latch the hook.
4. It has to be detachable for AC servicing.
5. there will be condensation so dont allow any water collection areas.

Im sorry. Its weird but itlll work.
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Aug 10 2018, 11:40 AM)
Actually i also have similar problem where to put my indoor unit. It's an open concept dining - living and I do not want my kitchen to be air conditioned. Both living and dining has its own ceiling fan but aircond in the living area is a must.

There are two options 1 and 2

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Cassette unit is not an option.
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How big is the area ?

You can install on option 1 or 2.

Option 2 can be lower hp like 1HP. Lower down the horizontal flip and your kitchen will not get the cool.

 

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