Yo guys,

Since i'm new to this LCD world and just bought a R81, perhaps i could start a thread to consult those experienced owner on the issue that i faced on the TV.

I purchased the TV a week ago and just posted my review in other thread. However, i faced some issue on the sound quality wise. Not sure it is due to faulty speaker or something else. Will consult you guys first before i lodge a complain to Samsung.

Bass Distortion from Internal Speaker
Hmmm. THis is the only thing that make me feel abit got cheated. Was impressed with the PQ so much that i forgot to really check on it when i purchase the TV.
It has a bad bass distortion, everything there's a loud bass be it during advertisement or any scene in movie (thunder, eartquake etc), noisy bass distortion will be heard. It's a turn off. But if i plug on external speakers that it is fine. But still, damn...

PIP feature not working
When i press on PIP it is not working, stated "not available.

Hope some of the experienced users can help me. Thanks.

This post has been edited by shakiraa: May 26 2007, 01:38 PM

hi there,

if i'm not mistaken, the Samsung PIP only works with certain different input source.

try using pc input and PIP dvd, that should work.

I just bought LA40R81B last week. No complaints at all. The picture quality is perfect, the sound is great too, the bass too is clear.
PIP i have not tried.

Overall, it is a good buy, the resolution is good, the screen is bright and the ratio is 8000:1 whichis quite high. I watch Astro HBO, cinemax etc, the quality is good. DVD is of course excellent.

Yesterday, i played movie FOG dvd9 dual layer, using component video cables, and optical cable to my souround system, its perfect.

Love it.

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Added on May 28, 2007, 3:53 pmOne more thing, playing PS2 on it is really like in a fantasy land, the graphic is crystal clear. Its game mode made the graphic so lively.

This post has been edited by chinkw1: May 28 2007, 03:53 PM

What's the native contrast on this particular model by the way?

my r7 works excellent..
the bass is clear & the pip works too..
r8 should be better..

to make the pip works..
try searching tv channel by plugging tv antenna at the tv..
after u found a channel..
turn on your ps3 as well..
go back at the tv channel.. press pip button..
now you can play ps3 game & watch the tv channel at the same time..
but the pip screen is very small..

for the bass..
maybe u can tweak the surround txt / build in equalizer..

if this still can't help..
get another r8..
u still have warranty maa..

This post has been edited by sub_zero: May 28 2007, 05:58 PM

er.... chinkw1.... get urself a ps3 or xbox 360 add on HD dvd drive

then u will see the even better advantsges of ur R8

much much better than wat u have

may i know roughly how much does r81 cost?? thanks

Thanks alot guys for the feedback. I think there's problem with my TV inbuild speaker. Will get it change tomorrow.

Here :

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/342626

shakira..
i've never tried connecting astro to r7 yet..
because my main purpose of buying my r7..
is for ps3, pc and dvd player..
the sales person from hsl denki in midveli once told me that if u want to use lcdtv for viewing astro channel..
u better buy sony bravia or toshiba regza..
it's because these models come with astro picture enhancement mode which will enhance the existing astro channel..
if u buy other model than the above one, astro channels will be blurred because there is no astro picture enhancement mode..
i don't know if this is true or not because i've never tested it yet..
but logically..if u play a 480i picture in a 1080i/1080p hdtv.. the picture sure will be blurred..
because of the low resolution picture playing in a high resolution hdtv..

if astro channel broadcasts hd picture..
then there will no problem connecting astro to ur r8..
just plug-in the astro's red, white & yellow cable to ur r8 & walla..
u r ready to watch astro with hd quality picture in ur new tv..

This post has been edited by sub_zero: May 29 2007, 02:01 PM

Wow, and you heard all this from a sales man? That guy must be freaking good.

Dude, there's no way in hell Astro can look like HD with its current transmission, no matter how good the TV is.

Just got my 32" R81 on Monday. Bought at Rm3850 from SenQ Penang.

I connect it to my Pioneer DVD player via Monster component cables and optical for sound. No HDMI on Player...

As for PS2 I'm using Components(normal) and optical for sound.

chinkw1 : what cables you use to connect your PS2?
I played certain games but the edges seems ermmm not so good la but only in certain games like RPG when I'm moving the character.

I also connect it to my PC via DVI/HDMI and the quality is superb despite being in 720p. No idea how to make it 768p on my PC as its only interlaced allowed for 768.

Never get a chance to really test the TV's speaker as I did not connect it to my amp.

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Added on May 30, 2007, 12:14 amWhat is your volume when the distortion happened? I heard that the TV's original speaker can't support heavy bass even more so when it is loud. Its stronger in its higher range frequencies and a little in mid range.

PIP only works for PC(RGB cable), and AV and TV. doesnt work for HDMI and component. Not sure about S Video though. Found this from the Manual and personal test

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Added on May 30, 2007, 12:16 amI asked the salesman what is the actual contrast ratio instead of the dynamic contrast when I wanted to buy cause told him the 8000:1 is a dynamic contrast thus some sort of marketing scam whereby it is not the actual value. He told me its 1500:1

not sure if its true. Anyone can confirm cause I thought was 1200:1?

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: May 30 2007, 12:16 AM

sub, astro only 240i nia

if astro does HD, i dun think the current decoder can be used, and neither will the yellow cable provide HD picture

I use my R7 to watch astro. Well, like any other LCD tv, it sucks (but you'll get use to it). The R7 also have that astro pic enhancement thingy, but they call it DNie technology or something. basically, it is (almost) similar to what bravia has, only different name.
As what rx330 said, HD broadcast wont be able to be viewed using current decoder. Those composite output wont be able to handle 720p/1080p.

@ least ICDeadPeople is frank, i really cant see why astro on a 40 incher LCD would look good, heck, even on a 37, its terrible

well unless u are sitting way far, then its freaking sharp

is it true that astro looks way better on Plasma or more or less the same as LCD?

cause just connected mine today and it is......terrible
LOL
even TV3 is nicer
surprised!

er... astro only looks better on CRT

hoyo.. astro only 240i?
no wonder the picture blur..

astro = VCD quality

heard sony got the astro pic enhancement and its veery effective

any comments?

astro enhancement mode? kekekeek

LPPL

every brand also have this feature lar like sharp got panorama, regza got dunno what zoom bla bla bla... just that Sony marketing pandai sikit, call it astro enhancement feature heheh

hmmmm how the part where everyone keep saying astro looks better on plasma and not lcd?

Maybe the video scaler in plasma is better or plasma has less pixels than lcd technology so Astro won't look so ugly on it. Don't forget, plasma can't do full HD like lcds, they can accept 1080p signals but it doesn't mean that it can output all the pixels in a 1080p signal.

plasma kenot output full HD 1080p one mer?

Nope, not possible, they can't display in full HD as they don't have enough pixels to fill up the whole screen so mostly via scaling. Those 1080p plasma tvs are merely scaled to fit. Of course, when it comes to colour gradiation, plasma wins hands down and plasma can also display more colours too, 68 billions colours versus LCD's 12.8 billion colours.

astro look the best - CRT tube only, anything else will shown astro ugly compression.

Back to the million Ringgit question again; when will Astro upgrades its poor broadcast sys to HDTV sys?

will be cutting my asstro next moon... save the marnee buy LCD better , unless... out cums astro HD, which i think shud be here in by wawasan 2020

thanks for the info sunauto

get a starhub HD setup box.. then lay the coax-able across the selat, then u can view Discovery in HD

What a fantastic idea!

starhub only got 2 channels in HD

a fren wen to see samples of SG channel 5 HD boradcast, tarak sui he said...

just bought from singapore sales $1550 with free HD decoder and 1 year subscription to HD pacakage. Very nice price.

This post has been edited by superamd: Jul 3 2007, 11:48 AM

IINM, spore sellign the R8 more expensip than msia

bro .. how can singapore be more expensive than malaysia ?
the free give i am getting already worth $500
so basically i am paying $1000 for the R8 only

maybea as in advertise price, cos i remember seeing it written 4k sgd for the 40 incher, as cumpare to rm 6599 for 40 incher in msia

well, IIRC tis r8 made in msia one, so maybe price lower

Besides the size of the screen, other factors does play a role. Such as a 1080P capable LCD may cost 1 or 2k more than a 1080i model

we are toking abt the same R81 models, how can got 1080p and 1080i models?

not if u are EPL fan . Singa also need cable tv if wanna watch EPL.

If you didn't know, the R8 in Singapore probably has the S-PVA panel (grade A) and ours is from Chimei Electronics, a P-MVa panel, hence the price difference. Samsung is famous for using different types of panels for their LCD tvs and this has been discussed in various forums and yes, it affects Malaysia as well so if we're getting our 40 inch R8 at RM6300, very likely, it's not a S-PVA panel. The funny thing, the R8 review panel for Singapore CNET mentioned that it was a S-PVA panel but in other countries, Samsung didn't mention that it was using a S-PVA panel except for their M8 series. Misleading, eh?

yes, bery misleading

so does the panels affect greatly on PQ or any other?

@ perlboy: I have moved your post to the HDTV thread.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/123247

I'm closing this, as we're trying to condense all HDTV/LCD discussions there.

Thanks.