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post Jul 25 2018, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Jul 25 2018, 05:17 PM)
Saw that one but useless.

LZPDFAS15, 15% off, Min RM120, Max RM 20 off, Men & Women's Fashion only.
Refresh daily at 10AM, 2PM, 5PM, 10PM.

And 400 more people follow, we will reach the target! Thank for the helps guys! thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/xiaomi-official-store/
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target ? what does it have to do ? it's still like those asus case OOS within 0.01 sec ?
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post Jul 25 2018, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Jul 25 2018, 08:45 PM)
Well, when you can add to cart, it means it is not OOS yet, so you guess the time based on when you can't add to cart, then you will know. thumbsup.gif

Anyways, 10 phone + 10 phone + 2 phone + 20 powerbank, so total of 22 phone + 20 powerbank has been sold at RM 1 + RM 4.75 shipping fees, let us see how much quantity will be sell by XiaoMi.

Thank anyone that helps on reach on the target for XiaoMi. thumbup.gif
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I still don't get what you mean , even following reaching the target , you still need to be the 1st as fast as a script to add to cart and check out and I don't see any RM1 sold now.
I would rather they give cheaper voucher than rm1 oos in 0.01 sec .

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post Jul 27 2018, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Jul 25 2018, 10:08 PM)
Yup, it was 28.2k when I check at 6PM, then this 12 PM I check, bang! 29.1k.
Give a programmer first time, they are not ready yet, second time, they are not ready yet.
Third time? Yes, ready. doh.gif

Unless they do something like Taobao, but just FYI, one of the people that had script claim they can't even fight all the humans that rushing for tickets. sweat.gif
For the first times they sell, I had faced captcha, and bang, network latency killed me.(Taobao APP captcha is a unlock bar like the old iOS, weak network will get you stuck on 3s) rclxub.gif

If you wonder, the ticket range from RM 1xx to RM 12xx, with total of 1200 x 2 ticket, finished in 2 second. rclxm9.gif
So yup, 1000 ticket sold in 1 second, with human, it is even not RM 1! notworthy.gif

Second times resell, 1.x seconds, third times, 0.x seconds.(seller detect script and cancel them for resell, that's why so many times.)
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Anyways, Taobao JuHuaSuan(čšåˆ’įŽ—) is full of script, I has tested, 100 x RM 1 items finish in 0.5s, unless you live in China, you can't fight them.

And nope, adding the reCAPTCHA is worst idea ever, it means if you never login to Google, you are blocking them to join this event, as they will be blocked by 10-50 seconds puzzle. sweat.gif
Last time the ubisoft 10 years free game events they added this, and many human posted on Reddit about the reCAPTCHA, and some of them claim they just one tick and done, so I guess this is what's you get for not using Google product. rclxs0.gif
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Back to topic, if XiaoMi give 2 units @ RM1, they will be booo~ by customers, because they required 30k people to follow, not 15k? like Asus. laugh.gif  innocent.gif
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Again , I never approach china platform.Adding re-captcha would be better but the best is to add a text of re-captcha.Like world record of 212 wpm.
Make a captcha of 150 words in 1 min time frame and summit.
Pretty sure even scripts can't actually verify them.Add as hard as possible for user to buy.Re-captcha text+Image ,Virtual Keyboard security, and OTP

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post Jul 27 2018, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Jul 25 2018, 09:21 PM)
Based on the limit of system, I will say that, give a timer voucher that reduce to RM 1 on time for you to order is a better idea, but a timer voucher is desynced, based on the 12 PM voucher that I tested today(click apply on 12 PM, get sucked saying voucher not available on APP, need go back and apply voucher again, maybe not a issues on web that can apply multiple times), so it is not a workaround, at least for lazada. nod.gif
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Rethink again, a voucher like LZCIMB22 is a better choice, but based on customer mind, I don't think they will waste time on learning how to apply a voucher like LZCIMB22(there are still many people wonder how did this voucher works) to grab a RM 1 smartphone, while lazada don't want to waste resource on doing/improving this kind of system for just a small rare event. doh.gif

Maybe using the current Flash Sale system is a better choice then, but it will be a DDOS to the system, that's why it is set at 3 PM, so no DDOS by RM 1 customer + Flash Sale customer. hmm.gif
Yup, marketing sweat time, just like Asus, they also state to release on target reach, but later they just post on Facebook telling everyone about the RM 1 event first, then start the event. tongue.gif

Then just split it into 2 RM 1 event so can extend the marketing. icon_idea.gif
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I am more confuse on what you are saying :confuse: .
What is 'time voucher' ? I though RM1 just add to cart will do ? but problem is the speed of script of adding them and checkout.
I am not sure whether asus marketing is on the trick of 2 events.
What I would suggest is , choices of rm1 voucher and time for user.

10x RM1 phone but split to 2 times 3pm or 12am
voucher discount x100 rm50~100 store code who choose for voucher over phone

Looking through , before laz was wellknown , xiaomi official , then huawei official all have the same event but surely not RM1.A more cheaper price for the launching date by 50% where xiaomi 10000mha power bank only cost 35 , phone cost half the price and etc.


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post Jul 27 2018, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Jul 26 2018, 10:08 AM)
If you spend RM167 at Lazada on 26/7-31/7 (transaction date), you will get
(1) RM25 (15%) by 31/8 (but normally 20th-24th of the month) AND
(2) RM1.67 (1%) on 25/8, posted on 26/8, but you will see it on 27/8.

So Total RM26.67
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Sorry , I do not understand.
QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Jul 26 2018, 03:53 PM)
I never use CIMB-Lazada to top up Lazada wallet.
If it is accepted for 15% special cashback (promo till 31/12/18), you will get
Before 31/8, 32.88*0.15 = 4.93
On 25/8 (you check at CIMBClicks on 27/8), 32.88*0.01 = 0.32
So your CIMB-Lazada account: -32.88+4.93+0.32

If you are eyeing Lazada wallet promo as well, the promo credit will go to your Lazada wallet, not CIMB-Lazada account.
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If I choose wallet , it'll be wallet but how much wallet % compare to cimb laz ? Sometimes different item different % rebate for wallet.
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post Jul 28 2018, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(imap.cc @ Jul 27 2018, 07:34 PM)
Returned something to Lazada at MBE just now.

The staff told me now they are extremely busy arranging all those Lazada returns more than normal parcels. Some culprits even took advantage from Lazada by exchanging the goods.

This unlimited return policy really abused by a lot of buyers.
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Because now laz , there is a lot of fake item from china.If laz doesn't sold to Alibqba , things will be under control and more voucher for us.
The culprits or not it had to have a policy returning.
Laz should come out a way to fix it.
QUOTE(HMMaster @ Jul 28 2018, 07:41 AM)
I wonder if Lazada will ppl that return too often like Amazon...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/banned-from-am...urns-1526981401
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QUOTE(evilsmile @ Jul 28 2018, 09:55 AM)
Many youtubers do this tactic

Buy expensive stuff on amazon, make video reviews, then repack and return. Getting rich by abusing customer protection for online buyers
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I don't know about US amazon policy , but as for laz , we sure need to fill up a form for a reason to return.

If something like amazon it's more on 4 parties problem.Seller , Amazon policy , shipping company and Buyer.
If there is a policy like

1. Seller need to record the the packing process to seller + sticking a special wrapping plastic.
2. Amazon setting up a cloud storage for seller and buyer uploaded.
3. Amazon should request seller/buyer to buy an Insurance for shipping if item price is above > 500-1k or something.If item receive , the insurance 99.7% $ will be release back to both buyer/seller.(Insurance take 0.3)
4. Buyer should record unboxing video process and tested working product and can be upload to amazon cloud
5. If buyer doesn't want the product and still unwrap - deduct 0.5% of the product price.If unbox deduct any amount %<10% set by seller.Deducted will be return to seller

Simple.All parties fair.
Example product defected -Hard disk , Glass broken and etc all cover by insurance company and insurance claim from the shipping company.Who call the shipping company simply through my LED tv and spoil it.Can't they handle product incare ?
Fake product is common - USB , external hard disk and etc , depends on the return policy , keep it or penalty the seller.If seller conned from the distro then file a dispute on the distro.


There is no 100% but at lease can minimize.There will be more of cases like this because of handling issue and fake items and greedy seller/buyer.
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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Jul 28 2018, 10:31 AM)
Lazada wallet: % varies from time to time, First-come-first-served, not guaranteed.
https://www.cimbbank.com.my/en/personal/pro...mastercard.html

CIMB Lazada: 15% (Max RM25) special rebate (till 31/12/18) + 1% normal rebate
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Can explain more on how to apply ? I try to dig up a bit from old thread.

1. Need to open a CA ?
2. Annual Fee cimb-laz ?
3. Best way to topup ?

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Jul 28 2018, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(arafat @ Aug 1 2018, 07:00 PM)
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when actually is this event?

supposedly today 4pm right? but i didn't see anything
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5 unit for the whole Malaysia or 30k subscriber on 5 phone , really if you are lucky enough.

So now laz mall ? what does it benefits for buyer ?
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post Aug 8 2018, 10:18 PM

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As someone mention , it's really true.
All local product required Delivery fee
All China product free Delivery

China alivaba wanted to win against local seller too via online ?
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post Aug 8 2018, 10:34 PM

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How to search item within store again ?
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QUOTE(Swordylove @ Aug 8 2018, 11:41 PM)
Click All Products on the store page, then edit the URL. Replace "All-Products" with your keyword.
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Can give me example ? thank you
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post Aug 9 2018, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(HMMaster @ Aug 8 2018, 11:52 PM)
The cost of china product probably very low that they can absorb the shipping cost.
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It is Lazada problem since Ali buy the who laz.The item on the cart still free shipping from china.All the local seller never take out the shipping price.

Example ,

1. China seller -> Cost rm15+commission -> Shipping to Malaysia and direct to buyer rm15 = RM30
2. Local seller -> Cost rm14 -> Shipping to Malaysia direct to seller rm15 -> below 1kg seller bear the shipping rm5 direct to buyer -> earn extra rm2 (because laz commission )-> rm36
3. Laz set this month no free shipping but remove commission
4. Local seller never remove the (bear shipping rm5 and commission ) and maintain rm36 + laz shipping rm4.90 = RM 40.90
5. China seller still rm30 because they direct shipped to buyer

So as result problem arise.Laz going to earn back the $ though shipping cost but no more commission for seller for certain item.

Problem are directed to Local seller who didn't minus shipping cost and commission.

So that is how Laz going to side China seller ?

BOTAK_WAI , WaCKy-Angel correct me if I am wrong.

And also , is it weird laz remove free shipping cost and at the same month shopee remove the free shipping and limit buyer for 3 shipping voucher a month.Anyone know what happen ? does SST 6% was the main result for both of them remove free shipping ?

Guess online business need to change platform again due to shipping issue.If a screen protector RM10 need Rm 4.90 shipping.It's really matter a lot or a any item below RM 20 with shipping cost = 25% increase .

You can't choose to do pos express for a screen protector or change to other courier service since those courier service is set and arrange by laz.

Now I just worry , SST comes . Seller never remove the commission + shipping and add the 10% price for the item or 6% for the service.

That is how someone discuss SST will get more price increase than GST.
Because seller stack all together without removing the old GST stack

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QUOTE(Swordylove @ Aug 9 2018, 11:09 PM)
Sorry for late reply.

If Tesco store, click 'All Products', the URL will be:
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https://www.lazada.com.my/tesco-groceries/?langFlag=en&q=All-Products&from=wangpu&pageTypeId=2


Edit to find 'detergent' products in Tesco store:
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https://www.lazada.com.my/tesco-groceries/?langFlag=en&q=detergent&from=wangpu&pageTypeId=2

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Thank you very much notworthy.gif , last time I asked but forgot how to search on previously.
QUOTE(predatorX @ Aug 10 2018, 08:45 AM)
This is too long, i will use this to search within store

https://www.lazada.com.my/tesco-groceries/?q=detergent
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Thanks for extra way to search within the shop.
QUOTE(Swordylove @ Aug 10 2018, 11:10 AM)
Yes it's long and messy, but quicker to edit.  rclxs0.gif
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Both also successfully able to search. Thank you smile.gif

but
Now how do I search item within lazada ? Item that full fill by lazada ?
I type https://www.lazada.com.my/lazada/?langFlag=...pu&pageTypeId=2 but nothing came out
Item https://www.lazada.com.my/products/sandisk-...s275810058.html

I wanted to search what other item lazada selling.
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Aug 9 2018, 06:58 AM)
i am not seller so i dunoâ€Ļhaha.

maybe china got free shipping because LEL Express.
from china seller to china warehouse, and also china warehouse to malaysia warehouse, then malaysia warehouse to your address, the shipping channel used same with the taobao official shipping, now the vertical integration here reduce the shipping cost.

dont forget china seller no need pay import cost like our local seller, china seller also selling their item in 1:1 currency convertion ratio.
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How does 1:1 currency ratio means ?
QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Aug 9 2018, 07:03 AM)
you are incorrect here, should be:

old sst + numerous times of petrol increase effect + old gst + even more times of petrol increase effect + new sst stack

topkek.
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old sst (RM10) + numerous times of petrol increase effect (RM13) + old gst (RM14) + even more times of petrol increase effect + MY currency drop(RM18) + new sst stack (RM20) + Shipping fee rm4.9 = RM 24.90

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Aug 11 2018, 10:47 AM)
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Should record down who SR who always grab the voucher.So cam compile a list.
QUOTE(hentaiargh @ Aug 11 2018, 06:24 AM)
11/August/2018

:recent changes today i check all oversea item also get RM4.90 shipping charge.
unbeliveble lazada.becoming worse!
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Now they finally change with shipping fee for china.
So my previous post mention laz favour china seller is half correct.
QUOTE(paradiseisland8 @ Aug 11 2018, 09:29 PM)
old price counted shipping one, you compare to shopee price you can see this. Now they standardised, so shipping cost cannot be discounted by voucher. Shopee also reduce free shipping liao change to that voucher system, later sure reduce the voucher given out. You notice they are becoming more like lelong, no free shipping and seller based discount vouchers, cause that is the only sustainable business model.
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Time to go for Shopee , I think there is not about shipping , it's more on SST.Shipping will have 6% charge for SST ?

I guess now , laz is going to be on mall sales , all small seller is shifting out now.Sales only happen on special date like 9.9 or 11.11 and etc.
No bank , no ezback , no maxis/digi and etc.
Adding a delivery fee.Never ask seller to reduce price after charging delivery fee <1kg and also GST remove.

Laz , unable to sustainable business model ? alibabab no $ ? .Soon will it be like gem5 ?
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Aug 13 2018, 06:50 PM)
Bought router, seller cancelled, got email from lazada reason claim no stock, but continue selling and raised the price

Contact the seller in chat, seller said no stock again

Then I logged into relative account, seller said got stock

All this on same day three hours apart

Contacted lazada, they brush it off, said refunded

Complained to kpdnkk

Explain again to lazada, then they send me the pdf of the refund sorta sarcastically saying please read

I replied with akta kepengunaan pdf, I also said please read

Then they gelabah start calling me

That was two weeks ago

Today kpdnkk called regarding taking statement wanna bring to court.
My issue is how can you allow the listing to continue when you said no stock, and then cancelled, and then raise price

Worse, contacted through another buyer, said got
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So which seller ? ELITE COMPUTER ENTERPRISE ?

QUOTE(Swordylove @ Aug 13 2018, 07:38 AM)
Edit: Sorry, just realized you want item sold by Lazada, not fulfilled. That I also want to know.

If item fulfilled by Lazada, just search normally, then check the 'Fulfilled By Lazada' filter lo...

This if want to see all items fulfilled by Lazada: https://www.lazada.com.my/all-products/?service=FBL
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Actually I wanted to know both.
Thanks for the link bu all are laz mall ? tesco and etc ? .You know sometimes on sales , anything fullfilled by laz have free delivery or cheaper price + less problem if anything happen because is from laz itself selling.


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QUOTE(dejiar @ Aug 28 2018, 12:13 PM)
Guys..

BEWARE OF GSTORE!
Buy a huawei device from this store state that MALAYSIA WARRANTY and can be claim on local manufacturer.

After checking online, it say that the service area is on SRI LANKA!

Wrote a review but get rejected!
Seem like this is the 2nd/3rd time..

damn...
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Aug 28 2018, 12:20 PM)
Thanks man!!!
Seem like I will buy from wow phone only.
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QUOTE(dejiar @ Aug 28 2018, 12:20 PM)
gstore is directd and mobile2go rite?
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QUOTE(Dyson Jin @ Aug 28 2018, 12:49 PM)
Gstore is mobile2go
Wow phone is Directd
u can go their shop and ask tho..no harm..
cuz so far i purchased few phones from there,all ori set..the latest is huawei nova 2 lite.
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Again and many times, TS NightFelix should pin a list of store related as before.
Many question and member confuse whether which store is reliable.
btw , there is no way Service center is at Sri lanka ,AP set ?

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QUOTE(Xumu @ Aug 28 2018, 09:58 PM)
Ssd can last very long, mine been 6 years still running strong, SMART still shows full health, try to get the largest capacity u can afford
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Which SSD brand and model you are using ?
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 28 2018, 11:17 PM)
We do not affiliate or endorsed any store or seller. There are so seller in Lazada. Don't tell me you want me to pin full list of all kinds of categories product and seller? There are always 7 days of buyer protection and 14 days  satisfaction guarantee. Check rating and read reviews and even live chat there.
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Sorry i mean it's more on buyer info.Like store merchant A is store B.Rather having member keep on asking the same question.
Although it's for lazada thread , it is also related to reputation on lazada.Store merchant are allow to delete comment , remove rating , fake rating and etc.
In order to cope , buyer protection , lazada offer 14 satisfaction guarantee.

But , it's too late if Buyer use a voucher offer by lazada and the item was faulty and to be return.The refund voucher will not be offer to buyer like 20% RM80.
Thus , it's extremely hard for new buyers or member here to keep track on those reputation store.The best is go for official store to buy the specific item.
Now the question is , who really going to buy at official store where the price is xx% higher than usual.Official store are usually same price as retail.

After all , we buyer just wanted to buy at the affordable range of an item with voucher and not to have hope lost buying from bad reputation store and lost the voucher with all of the refund process hassle and etc.

Maybe someone thinks if you wanted cheap then don't buy from laz at all , so what's the purpose on online buying if all merchant = scammer ?.Laz = counterfeit products.

I don't want everyday reading news about member got scam and etc.

So here , i hope someone willing to compile a list of merchant on rating outside of laz as a guideline (beware of scammer/poor packing/counterfeit product and etc).Thank for reading actually.
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QUOTE(Xumu @ Aug 28 2018, 10:07 PM)
Intel ssd 520 series

Bought 6 years ago

That time 240GB was 500+ lol
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QUOTE(OwlsHeart @ Aug 28 2018, 10:09 PM)
Yep,i have a plextor m6pro ssd healthy for 5 years and counting. Though they dont sell this brand locally anymore.
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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Aug 28 2018, 10:32 PM)
Intel also got international warranty, unless you purchase in China, so you can RMA for it if you facing issues oversea. thumbsup.gif

But nowaday, it is hard to find a spoiled SSD, the SSD price has been increased a lot compare to old time, but the stability also increased. nod.gif
Just FYI, the SandDisk Firmware upgrade is having issues on Windows 10, so you can't upgrade it to latest version by using latest Windows 10 and that software, it will failed and hang your computer. doh.gif

Unsure for Kingston, no one around me using it yet.
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Now on SSD talk, it too would like to get an MLC SSD but only samsung pro offering and it's too expensive.
Right now was thinking on getting an SSD.
ECT or Asahi better ? ever heard of ARTIDEA ?

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