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post Jun 8 2007, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(aw13 @ Jun 8 2007, 06:55 PM)
But really appreciate the fact that one pay-tv channel in Malaysia took the initiative and got rights to Serie A, La Liga and Bundesliga as well, really helped those leagues to grow albeit not in tandem with the EPL.  at least more and more fans are exposed to different leagues, and not just limited to one.  rclxms.gif
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Hopefully Astro will take up the initiative. I'm sure there are many Malaysians out there who haven't been properly exposed to the La Liga and Serie A. Parents who are EPL fans have their kids watch EPL games turning them into EPL fans and the cycle goes on.

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post Jun 9 2007, 02:23 AM

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Well its a good cycle actually as EPL teams tend to give ppl the adrenaline rush for each games they play..EPL is more direct and applies a no-nonsense approach while La Liga is more to individual skills and Seria A for its tactical prowess..Epl gives fans a direct understanding of football and easier approach if one is to start football..La Liga is abit hard as they emphasizes skills and flairs and its kinda hard for a beginner..whereas Seria A will give headaches to newbies as they play around the ball too often and to an extend slow..

Newbies will find it 'unattractive' as they prefer a more direct and 'beautiful' approach of football..So EPL will be newbies' target of attraction at 1st...
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post Jun 9 2007, 12:55 PM

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i guess the atmosphere in the english premier league is better compared to other leagues in europe..the english fan is more passionate...
week in week out epl stadiums are full house...they support their team till death.. cool2.gif
i prefer the EPL compared to other leagues coz i know more teams and players in the EPL than in the other leagues...prob coz of astro telecast.. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 9 2007, 10:02 PM

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yupp i think the media plays a really important part in making a certain league popular...well im glad tat they showed EPL anyways..wink.gif
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post Jun 10 2007, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Reimao @ Jun 9 2007, 02:23 AM)
Well its a good cycle actually as EPL teams tend to give ppl the adrenaline rush for each games they play..EPL is more direct and applies a no-nonsense approach while La Liga is more to individual skills and Seria A for its tactical prowess..Epl gives fans a direct understanding of football and easier approach if one is to start football..La Liga is abit hard as they emphasizes skills and flairs and its kinda hard for a beginner..whereas Seria A will give headaches to newbies as they play around the ball too often and to an extend slow..

Newbies will find it 'unattractive' as they prefer a more direct and 'beautiful' approach of football..So EPL will be newbies' target of attraction at 1st...
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You got an acceptable theory. But either way once people start to watch the EPL, it's highly unlikely they'll switch leagues.

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post Jun 10 2007, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(hafizanuar @ Jun 9 2007, 12:55 PM)
i guess the atmosphere in the english premier league is better compared to other leagues in europe..the english fan is more passionate...
week in week out epl stadiums are full house...they support their team till death.. cool2.gif
i prefer the EPL compared to other leagues coz i know more teams and players in the EPL than in the other leagues...prob coz of astro telecast..  biggrin.gif
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epl stadiums are full house bcoz their stadium is small than serie A and la liga stadium,that why epl stadium so crowded

EPL not support their team till death,they kill other fan to support their team,EPL and England fan (holigan) always make a problem to the police and sometime kill their oppenant fan
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 10 2007, 11:31 AM)
epl stadiums are full house bcoz their stadium is small than serie A and la liga stadium,that why epl stadium so crowded

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blink.gif u got source for that not? some stadium in serie A only got like 19K capacity,while EPL lowest is 20K+ (portsmouth if not mistaken),and most stadium is 30K above, derby county also got 35k, not to mention sunderland,newcastle,liverpool,chelsea,everton and more which is 40K+ ,emirate stadium and most scary of all,theatre of dreams which is 72k fully occupied .... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 10 2007, 11:31 AM)
epl stadiums are full house bcoz their stadium is small than serie A and la liga stadium,that why epl stadium so crowded


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Small ??

hahahahahahaha.

Find me a stadium in Serie A and La Liga which gets 90% capacity for every match.

heck , in turin , 600 ppl turn up for a cup game against lower opponents , but 60 000 ppl turn up for ManUtd cup game against a semi-proffesional non-league team like exeter
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post Jun 10 2007, 02:30 PM

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English supporters are some of the most passionate in the world. That cannot be in doubt.

But i want to add that the Spanish aren't that bad either. The problem is the coverage we get of La Liga doesn't capture the atmosphere as well as the coverage from Sky Sports. I know this because i've seen highlights by Sky Sports of games that i have watched on Astro...and i was astounded by the difference. You can really hear and feel the atmosphere.

The Bernabeu is always packed full to its 80k capacity the past few months. Though i admit that in some of the earlier Spanish Cup games we dont get full houses but we still do generally fill more than half which is better than nothing.
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post Jun 10 2007, 02:41 PM

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Pretty much the same for Old Trafford. Packed to the 76k capacity that it has for every game, so that baseless accusations that the stadium are not packed is well, baseless. The only team I reckon that has a big stadium that has a problem to fill it is, Man City and their City of Manchester stadium. And so does Chelski. This ain't a personal attack I must remind though. It doesn't help that the tickets for the Chelski games is so damn expensive. With City I reckon it might be the kind of footy that they play.
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post Jun 10 2007, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(akRia @ Jun 10 2007, 12:58 PM)
blink.gif u got source for that not? some stadium in serie A only got like 19K capacity,while EPL lowest is 20K+ (portsmouth if not mistaken),and most stadium is 30K above, derby county also got 35k, not to mention sunderland,newcastle,liverpool,chelsea,everton and more which is 40K+ ,emirate stadium and most scary of all,theatre of dreams which is 72k fully occupied .... laugh.gif
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uiiihhh so scary cry.gif

http://www.stadiumguide.com/noucamp.htm

http://www.stadiumguide.com/bernabeu.htm

http://www.stadiumguide.com/oldtrafford.htm

see the link,Camp Nou and Bernebeu averege attandance is higher than Old Trafford laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
your most scary Theatre of Dream can hold 72,000 but CampNou only can hold 100,000 cry.gif while Bernebeu only 80,000 cry.gif the most not scary is Old Trafford only in same level with Mestalla and Vicente Calderon

56,000 Montjuic(Espanyol)
55,000 Manuel Ruiz de Lopera(Betis)
45,000 Ramón Sánchez Pizjuán(Seville)
40,000 San Mames(Bilbao)
35,000 La Romareda(Zaragoza)
34,600 Riazor(Deportivo)
32,000 Anoeta(Sociedad)
32,000 Balaidos(Vigo)

QUOTE(befitozi @ Jun 10 2007, 01:54 PM)
Small ??

hahahahahahaha.

Find me a stadium in Serie A and La Liga which gets 90% capacity for every match.

heck , in turin , 600 ppl turn up for a cup game against lower opponents , but 60 000 ppl turn up for ManUtd cup game against a semi-proffesional non-league team like exeter
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then you... find me a stadium in EPL which get over 70,000 every macth biggrin.gif














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post Jun 10 2007, 05:32 PM

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Are you ignorant?? Or just plain blind??? Old Trafford gets 70k+ everytime a game is played there and it has been mentioned here over and over and over again. And pretty dumb ain't it comparing the capacity to the Bernabeu and Nou Camp when everyone knows that the Bernabeu and Nou Camp is bigger than OT. And saying that Nou Camp's and Bernabeu's average attendance is higher than OT is not really rocket science aint it ?? You dont even need a link for that

The argument that a stadium is full because it is small is dumb in IMO. City of Manchester stadium is rarely full and it is one of the biggest stadium in the country. So does Stamford Bridge but that is mostly due to the ticketing price which is the highest in England. A stadium is full is because of the following, not because of how big it is. Build OT up to 100k and it will still be full week in, week out.

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post Jun 10 2007, 06:36 PM

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air_mood is right. Capacity does not equal the amount of support a club has. Juventus recently decided to make their stadium smaller in fact just because there were too many empty seats. Barca has a 100k capacity stadium but it's hardly ever full...
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please count by percentage of capacity filled .....

Camp nou everytime filled to 100k ??

And , Old Trafford is not the most intimidating , i know that. Anfield can be more intimidating.

However , all this still lose to Turkish stadium. Have you ever seen and hear their chants ?
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 10 2007, 03:07 PM)
uiiihhh so scary  cry.gif

http://www.stadiumguide.com/noucamp.htm

http://www.stadiumguide.com/bernabeu.htm

http://www.stadiumguide.com/oldtrafford.htm

see the link,Camp Nou and Bernebeu averege attandance is higher than Old Trafford  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
your most scary Theatre of Dream can hold 72,000 but CampNou only can hold 100,000  cry.gif  while Bernebeu only 80,000  cry.gif the most not scary is Old Trafford only in same level with Mestalla and Vicente Calderon

56,000 Montjuic(Espanyol)
55,000 Manuel Ruiz de Lopera(Betis)
45,000 Ramón Sánchez Pizjuán(Seville)
40,000 San Mames(Bilbao)
35,000 La Romareda(Zaragoza)
34,600 Riazor(Deportivo)
32,000 Anoeta(Sociedad)
32,000 Balaidos(Vigo)
then you... find me a stadium in EPL which get over 70,000 every macth  biggrin.gif
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blink.gif if manu's stadium can put 120K fans inside,u think they got problem filling it up? many manu,liverpool fans cant even get ticket to go in the stadium coz of limited seats...and manu is every game 76K (according to air_mood) while liverpool,chelski,everton is 40K attendance almost every weekend ....u r putting highest record of attendance, this makes u look stupid

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post Jun 10 2007, 11:37 PM

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and saying Epl fans in England kill other fans shows tat ur being either dumb or...stil dumb..English fans are popular for being loud but not for being extreme violent as in to an extent killing other fans...
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post Jun 11 2007, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Reimao @ Jun 10 2007, 11:37 PM)
and saying Epl fans in England kill other fans shows tat ur being either dumb or...stil dumb..English fans are popular for being loud but not for being extreme violent as in to an extent killing other fans...
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but i think u are the most dumbest in lyn,u must wacth liga clausura and apertura in argentina,they more loud and extreme than english

didnt you know english always kill oppenant fan,you must read about
Heysel`85(Kops fan kill 39 Italian)
English make a lot of Turkey`s police get injured Euro 2004 Qualify

there are many more... you can find yourself in internet
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 11 2007, 09:11 AM)
but i think u are the most dumbest in lyn,u must wacth liga clausura and apertura in argentina,they more loud and extreme than english

didnt you know english always kill oppenant fan,you must read about
Heysel`85(Kops fan kill 39 Italian)
English make a lot of Turkey`s police get injured Euro 2004 Qualify

there are many more... you can find yourself in internet
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What u talking about?? I watch EPL almost 1x years never saw their fans kill their opponent in their local league game. Ya, we all know english fans always make some trouble when they follow their support club travel to other country, but they never making trouble in their own league.
But what i saw in Seria A, some of their fans look more terrible, throw the fireworks into the fields, sometime throw it to their opponent, so that's always got match been suspended.
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cannot deny that English fan are more extreme because they are passionate.. but English police are good in controlling the situation.. and why somebody comparing Argentinian league with EPL? rclxub.gif that's way out of line..
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It's getting way off topic here...

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