Discussion Why some people doesn't like EPL?, give ur reason
Discussion Why some people doesn't like EPL?, give ur reason
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Dec 27 2008, 09:50 PM
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4,503 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: The Far Away Venus Status: Being Insua-fied |
I hate epl cos got superb referee like Rob Style!!
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Dec 27 2008, 11:20 PM
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local fans' overwhelming support for EPL have left me in despair
blame it on over-exposed coverage on local media, vice-versa for other leagues |
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Dec 27 2008, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Dec 26 2008, 12:30 PM) I think there are many reasons for this.. duh, for the point #1, i think i hav mentioned it quite a few times here b4 : 70-80% of Serie A games plays on our local time 9 or 10pm (depends on DST).1. Timezone.. Since most EPL games are broadcasted at the best times (sometimes at 10.45pm, sometimes even earlier at around 7pm.. sometimes 12-1am, rarely shown at 3.00am). I think most of the times, La Liga and Serie A matches are shown quite late, at 3.45am... 2. Fan base.. I guess there is a huge following here, so teams become popular here and it becomes a trend or easier choice. You might want to follow a mate here as one of the reasons (not the single reason anyway) 3. Football style.. English football is a lot of attacking minded and physical.. I guess is entertaining to watch. That's one of the few reasons.. with the declining of our own football (Malaysian football scene) it makes it even more attractive for people to watch... as for the other points... nah i dont wan to open up a can of worms. QUOTE(kazek @ Dec 27 2008, 09:45 PM) How can La Liga be better when EPL rejects like Diego Forlan, Fernando Morientes, and have managed to flourish there. now this is a very stupid 'logic' if u ask me. |
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Dec 27 2008, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Dec 27 2008, 11:47 PM) duh, for the point #1, i think i hav mentioned it quite a few times here b4 : 70-80% of Serie A games plays on our local time 9 or 10pm (depends on DST). true, la liga rejects have flourished in the EPL as well. but the serie a games i want to watch( ac milan) always happen to be weird timings. oh, i managed to watch that one roma match last sunday. it scared me..lol. everyone was fighting each other. the players.. the managers.. woo.as for the other points... nah i dont wan to open up a can of worms. now this is a very stupid 'logic' if u ask me. |
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Dec 28 2008, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Dec 27 2008, 11:47 PM) duh, for the point #1, i think i hav mentioned it quite a few times here b4 : 70-80% of Serie A games plays on our local time 9 or 10pm (depends on DST). Why are you getting so defensive angry man ? That was merely a cheap dig. Maybe I should have included a smiley as for the other points... nah i dont wan to open up a can of worms. now this is a very stupid 'logic' if u ask me. Everyone has his/her preference. Amongst the 3 of EPL, La Liga and Serie A. That Italian plot is the most boring. For starters the commentators are uninspiring hence taking out any fire from the action that's taking place. If Serie A is so interesting, how come very few watch it. And at least I see a lot more Serie A on Tv (so it shouldn't be about lack of coverage) as compared to La Liga but then again like in my previous post, how many here can name 4 players from Cagliari Calcio ? Like I said, everyone has his/her preference so there's no point trying to lead others to believe otherwise. But if we go by the majority, EPL wins by a landslide. |
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Dec 28 2008, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(kazek @ Dec 28 2008, 12:04 AM) Why are you getting so defensive angry man ? That was merely a cheap dig. Maybe I should have included a smiley nah i'm not angry or what. i juz really think thats a stupid logic. really. QUOTE If Serie A is so interesting, how come very few watch it. ROFLMAO ok u beat me. |
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Dec 28 2008, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Dec 28 2008, 12:17 AM) Hehe... Anyway on a more serious note, what's happened to Roma this season. Roma's my favorite side in the Serie A. Can't believe they are doing that bad. My boy Totti isn't even amongst the top scorers. This post has been edited by kazek: Dec 28 2008, 12:26 AM |
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Dec 28 2008, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(kazek @ Dec 28 2008, 12:04 AM) Why are you getting so defensive angry man ? That was merely a cheap dig. Maybe I should have included a smiley I'm 100% on the bold statement Everyone has his/her preference. Amongst the 3 of EPL, La Liga and Serie A. That Italian plot is the most boring. For starters the commentators are uninspiring hence taking out any fire from the action that's taking place. If Serie A is so interesting, how come very few watch it. And at least I see a lot more Serie A on Tv (so it shouldn't be about lack of coverage) as compared to La Liga but then again like in my previous post, how many here can name 4 players from Cagliari Calcio ? Like I said, everyone has his/her preference so there's no point trying to lead others to believe otherwise. But if we go by the majority, EPL wins by a landslide. I wonder why they never increase the volume of the match after soooo many years. Add in the uninteresting commentary, you get Serie A. |
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Dec 28 2008, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE(kazek @ Dec 28 2008, 12:25 AM) thats bcoz he only started 10 league games so far - n he was only fully fit for half of them. yet he still managed 5 goals.QUOTE(kimhoong @ Dec 28 2008, 12:35 AM) I'm 100% on the bold statement never heard the REAL Italian commentatings, eh ? u'll be amazed. I wonder why they never increase the volume of the match after soooo many years. Add in the uninteresting commentary, you get Serie A. |
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Dec 28 2008, 03:05 AM
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QUOTE(kazek @ Dec 27 2008, 09:45 PM) theres something we call google.com.. use it..far enough and u will see where it is.. u play ucl manager also right? dont tell me u didnt know such obvious stats.. i bet u didnt know how to determine how many clubs to participate in ucl didnt ya? QUOTE(kazek @ Dec 27 2008, 09:45 PM) The EPL is clearly more superior to La Liga. Last season's Champions League bears witness. In fact even this season, how many lol.. ever heard of lucky, odd, miracle?Spanish sides topped their groups. Only Barca. in football, not only performance determine the game.. ask faris, he know more what happen in previous ucl season.. QUOTE(kazek @ Dec 27 2008, 09:45 PM) How can La Liga be better when EPL rejects like Diego Forlan, Fernando Morientes, and have managed to flourish there. How can EPL be better when La Liga rejects say, robinho, and have managed to flourish in EPL?again as example, robinho is fast, so he plays better when in EPl compared to la liga since epl pace are fast.. however, say morientes, he is a bit slow, but he can fit better in la liga coz la liga pace is comparatively slow.. see, every people has their own preference/situation.. QUOTE(kazek @ Dec 27 2008, 09:45 PM) As for the diving and cream puff issue. The top 3 divers will come from the EPL because the EPL is more popular. It's what most people watch as that is what is televised on Astro and even in the papers. Not many watch La Liga. In fact I'm sure more than 80% of the forum members cannot list the 20 sides taking part in Primera Division this season. ohh.. come on..At least everyone here can name 4-5 players from each EPL side. I'm sure maybe no one here can name a single player from a side like Sporting Gijon. u didnt watch la liga right? nvm.. i already knew the answer.. if that person watch both (or even all) league, he/she can already tell which leagues has more diver.. no need to even have a poll.. im sorry to say this, but next time, when try to argue about something, go have a good reading, or at least go watch those leagues before u even say anything about them.. do not simply post something that u think by saying that u can pwn others easily, yet you are the "less information" side.. nvm, ill give u the rank link.. go here.. read at the league coefficient.. see what rank spain in 2007? (u quote my 2007 statement btw) cheers bro.. This post has been edited by mono_demon: Dec 28 2008, 03:21 AM |
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Dec 28 2008, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(mono_demon @ Dec 28 2008, 03:05 AM) theres something we call google.com.. use it.. can't the same be said for any non-EPL teams winning the Cup then? Lol. far enough and u will see where it is.. u play ucl manager also right? dont tell me u didnt know such obvious stats.. i bet u didnt know how to determine how many clubs to participate in ucl didnt ya? lol.. ever heard of lucky, odd, miracle? in football, not only performance determine the game.. ask faris, he know more what happen in previous ucl season.. How can EPL be better when La Liga rejects say, robinho, and have managed to flourish in EPL? again as example, robinho is fast, so he plays better when in EPl compared to la liga since epl pace are fast.. however, say morientes, he is a bit slow, but he can fit better in la liga coz la liga pace is comparatively slow.. see, every people has their own preference/situation.. ohh.. come on.. u didnt watch la liga right? nvm.. i already knew the answer.. if that person watch both (or even all) league, he/she can already tell which leagues has more diver.. no need to even have a poll.. im sorry to say this, but next time, when try to argue about something, go have a good reading, or at least go watch those leagues before u even say anything about them.. do not simply post something that u think by saying that u can pwn others easily, yet you are the "less information" side.. nvm, ill give u the rank link.. go here.. read at the league coefficient.. see what rank spain in 2007? (u quote my 2007 statement btw) cheers bro.. As for me, I only watch United games. Couldn't be bothered with any other clubs. Occasionally watch La Liga or Serie A. Bundesliga is very rare for me. As what Duke have mentioned, I enjoy watching EPL due to its style of play. Other leagues started to follow suit as well these days. These days, pace, intelligence and skills taken into account in every single match. And I noticed some mentioned that outside the top 4 of EPL, the quality is low or just satisfactory, then how the hell Stoke or Hull managed to win/draw with the so-called top four. Consistency is the key. |
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Dec 28 2008, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(mono_demon @ Dec 28 2008, 03:05 AM) nvm, ill give u the rank link.. go here.. read at the league coefficient.. see what rank spain in 2007? (u quote my 2007 statement btw) cheers bro.. 1. Chelsea 2. Milan 3. Liverpool 4. Barca 5. Arsenal |
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Dec 28 2008, 12:24 PM
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erm, Torres? Plays well at Liverpool but not at the La Liga? Henry? Played well at Arsenal but struggled at Barca? So who are you to judge that the La Liga is inferior to the Premiership?
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Dec 28 2008, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Dec 28 2008, 12:24 PM) erm, Torres? Plays well at Liverpool but not at the La Liga? Henry? Played well at Arsenal but struggled at Barca? So who are you to judge that the La Liga is inferior to the Premiership? True...I would say its more to personal preferences...And of cos commentators play a part |
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Dec 28 2008, 12:31 PM
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I am a Barcelona fan. I watch La Liga a lot. I also watched EPL games a lot because all my friends watch EPL, so I don't want to get left at home playing Guitar Hero alone every Saturday or Sunday night. And I prefer La Liga because I think intelligence plays more significant role in La Liga games compared to EPL. La Liga boast the finest playmakers in the game past and present. EPL relies heavily on athleticism of their players. Pace and body strength are the most important attributes in EPL. I admire intelligence, so I prefer La Liga
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Dec 28 2008, 12:42 PM
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so you saying that players in the EPL are not intelligent? lol, i beg to differ. dennis bergkamp was one of the most intelligent players i have ever seen IMO. and he was in EPL.
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Dec 28 2008, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Dec 28 2008, 11:10 AM) yep.. QUOTE(kazek @ Dec 28 2008, 11:19 AM) Top 5 clubs as of 2007-2008 UEFA Competitions (based on the link u provided) lol.. u still didnt admit ure statement is a total bs didnt ya?1. Chelsea 2. Milan 3. Liverpool 4. Barca 5. Arsenal bro, now we are talking about league.. wtf suddenly talk about top clubs? do u mean we have to close one eye on the likes of "sporting gijon" or WBA? btw, i said, QUOTE(mono_demon @ Dec 28 2008, 03:05 AM) nvm, ill give u the rank link.. go here.. again, read the stats about league coefficient..read at the league coefficient.. see what rank spain in 2007? (u quote my 2007 statement btw) cheers bro.. oh come on, do i have to highlight everything for u?? |
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Dec 28 2008, 01:02 PM
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All the top leagues has it's own plus and minus points namely the EPL,La Liga and Serie A. We can't really argue which league is better. Each and everyone has their own opinion.
My take on why EPL is shown alot more here is mainly due to language. Period. |
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Dec 28 2008, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Dec 28 2008, 12:42 PM) so you saying that players in the EPL are not intelligent? lol, i beg to differ. dennis bergkamp was one of the most intelligent players i have ever seen IMO. and he was in EPL. If you say Bergkamp is your most intelligent, maybe Zidane is your close second?I admit Bergkamp is great, but Zidane is a legend of the game.I can not say that EPL teams don't have intelligent players, because EPL teams bought a lot of players from La Liga teams. Deco, Robinho, Alonso, Riera, Jonas Gutierrez for example. Makelele also used to play in EPL after he played in La Liga. Although those players have left, but there are still many pieces of intelligence being demonstrate in La Liga week in week out. For that reason, I stick to La Liga. And by turning those so-called EPL flops to be a success in La Liga, doesn't that shows La Liga teams used their head better when handling transfer deals? This post has been edited by matyrze: Dec 28 2008, 01:12 PM |
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Dec 28 2008, 01:18 PM
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2,228 posts Joined: Oct 2007 From: ashburton grove |
QUOTE(matyrze @ Dec 28 2008, 01:11 PM) If you say Bergkamp is your most intelligent, maybe Zidane is your close second?I admit Bergkamp is great, but Zidane is a legend of the game. hehe, u r right. zidane is my second. a close second actually. well, i dunno about handling transfers better, but la liga teams do catch my eye. if i turn on the tv and some known la liga teams are playing, i do watch. its just that i dont make it a point to watch. but dont ask me to name the players! I can not say that EPL teams don't have intelligent players, because EPL teams bought a lot of players from La Liga teams. Deco, Robinho, Alonso, Riera, Jonas Gutierrez for example. Makelele also used to play in EPL after he played in La Liga. Although those players have left, but there are still many pieces of intelligence being demonstrate in La Liga week in week out. For that reason, I stick to La Liga. And by turning those so-called EPL flops to be a success in La Liga, doesn't that shows La Liga teams used their head better when handling transfer deals? |
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