If you wanna marry a rich man, you gotta have the qualities that they want, and be as perfect as possible. You gotta work on yourself first.

Based on my experience & feedback from them, their checklist of ideal wife material is as follows:

1) Appearance (tall, pretty, attractive) -- presentable when bringing her to attend biz functions
2) Brain (intelligent, ambitious, highly educated) -- to be their partner, and help them in biz & career
3) Filial to his parents -- most of them are the only/eldest son, so what their mum thinks of their woman is very important
4) Can be a good mum -- they want to produce the best offspring
5) Talented -- have other hobbies or talents, e.g. singing, dancing, cooking, socialising etc

It took me 5 years to perfect myself so that I could attract the men I want. Yeah, I stayed single & unavailable for many years, just to polish myself to near-perfection.

How did I do it?

In terms of looks, I have spent nearly RM50k in the past few years on various skincare treatments to look beautiful, such as going for facials, mani/pedicure, hair treatments (rebonding, colouring), doing my eyebrows, lips, skin hair removal & polishing, body massages etc. Yeah, I look naturally pretty without any makeup; no need to edit photos too. With makeup, I look way more gorgeous. (Yeah, spent so much $$$, will of coz look fabulous.)

On a side note, a woman being able to spend RM10k a year on beauty enhancements without getting bankrupt or in bad debt is a sign of high earning power & prudent financial management. Men find rich/high-earning women attractive too, so be one. (Yeah, easier said than done, but can be done.)

Having good looks alone is not enough. If you are an empty flower vase = look good on the outside but have nothing solid inside, rich men will lose interest fast, coz you're no different from those hot chicks they meet.

So yeah, I spent lots of time reading books, esp. biz, finance, investments etc ("dry & boring" for most women), so that I know what to chat with them, and impress them. Then I also developed side interests, and learnt how to cook delicious meals, sing songs etc. & I work out to shape & tone my body; going to be age 30 but still look around mid-20s. 

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Hard work does pay off.

The outcome? Attracted many high-earning professionals, and went on dates with them. (Birds of a feather flock together  )

Also attracted several rich men, who pursued/proposed to me:

1) M, eldest son of a bizman who owns a transportation company. Lives in double-storey semi-D, now runs his father's company. Stole my first kiss without consent. Yeah, punched him after that, but he was still happy.

2) L, eldest son of a bizman who owns a timber lodging company. Lives in double-storey bungalow, drove a Mercedez to fetch me at my house before, for an expensive lunch date. Confessed to me and wished to bring me home to meet his parents.

3) C, only son of a rich family, lives in single-storey bungalow, works in Oil & Gas, earning 5-digit MYR a month. Came to my house one late night (around 10pm+) to give me a box of imported chocolates. Parents are family friends.

4) W, only son of a rich biz family, studied in the U.K. Lives in a bungalow, inherits his family business to supply automobile parts to major car manufacturers. Wished to bring me home to meet his parents.

5) K, eldest son of a rich biz family, studied in the U.K. Inherited family wealth, earning 5-digit SGD a month. We're engaged now. Our anniversary trip this year is to Phuket, pre-wedding photoshoot will be in Taiwan, and the reception + honeymoon (destination wedding) will be in Maldives ← he suggested these countries.

Btw, I'm not working currently; he's supporting me financially. I have 1-2 years to relax and go travel, and upgrade myself to tip-top condition so that we can start own biz and family. He and I have discussed earning in MYR and also in USD, and sending our kids to international school.

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When you become the best, you will deserve the best. I didn't come from a rich family; was poor and starving before, but I worked hard to the top in terms of studies and career. That made me into a confident and ambitious lady, and not just sit there dressed in rags with self-pity, and passively waiting & daydreaming for some prince to rescue me. Nah, it doesn't happen that way in real life.

A few things to take note:

Firstly, rich guys don't like it when girls covet their wealth. They can easily sense if you are after them, or after their money. Money is important, but greed and materialism is a huge turn-off.

Secondly, of course, not all of us have the luck to meet/date rich men. It depends on the social circles/social class you are in. If you life is confined to just work and home, then chances are, you ain't gonna meet any of them. You need to actively go out and express yourself, be it in events or gatherings, or online.

Thirdly, it's not easy to manage wealth and multiply it. If you only wanna be a rich tai-tai who can't help much in your husband's biz/career, chances are, years down the road, you're out of the game, as you become liability and no longer asset. With great power (privileges) comes great responsibility and expectations.

Fourthly, if you're dating a guy who is earning an average income, please develop his potential and push him to success. Your aspiration, dreams and energy level can fuel his ambition to give you the life both of you want -- enjoy comfort without worry, and perhaps, a life of luxury one day. Don't just sit there and complain about him (look down on him and make him feel like a loser) when you yourself have done nothing much to upgrade yourself. It must go both ways/ reciprocal. In order to receive, you need to give first. Sow first, and reap later.

Btw, if a man feels he can't catch up on you, he'll either level up his game to be on par with you (great!), or feel insecure enough to let you go/ become controlling.

Lastly, love a man not for his money, but for his personality, his character, dreams and ambitions, and earning potential. The truly rich man is one who can lose everything, smile and start all over again, and earn the same pot of gold in a decade or two. Now that is what I call true wealth.

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OK, done sharing my part. Feel free to add on any tips and comments. No trolls pls; it's annoying. 

Btw, if you're a rich guy, feel free to share what you think/ what qualities you're looking for in a woman/ what type of women deserve you. & maybe give a tip or two about how you achieve success/ build wealth for our fellow forumers to learn from.

1. I leave it to the readers to analyse themselves. My writing style is more to argumentative type, i.e. consider 2 different views from extreme ends.

2. Some people can be naturally humble, but not me. It's difficult for me to fake it, and I don't believe in false humility that's prevalent in Asian cultures. I'm more to the high-profile type, outspoken and naturally bold. Depends on how you see it, some people admire my confidence/being outspoken while some people see it as conceit/bragging. But one thing holds true: I don't insult people and trample on them to achieve what I want.

Again, please consider the context here: We're in a forum, fully word-based. I need to give background information, lots of info is missing coz we all don't know each other in real life, so we are unable to judge a person based on other cues, e.g. body language and voice tone. In real life, it'll be easier/fairer to judge whether a person is a braggart or not.

3. Tell me when is real war gonna happen. If it's unlikely, then each person has his/her own battles to go through, with some battles tougher than the other. If those who had tough times came to different conclusions, feel free to share their own perspectives.

There is war all the time.  You just fail to consider it, like many others that your post is targeted to. There are wars in other countries, and there are so much lessons can be learned from there.  My wife is from one of those countries, you can check back at my previous posts.  I have also interacted a lot with survivors of war, and I can easily say whatever you or I have been through pales in comparison with whatever that they have undergone.  Not even close.

4. 'Girls are only after money' is partially true. I'd put it this way: women want financial security, and financial security is part of ensuring basic needs are met first, and only then the needs from the higher levels can be met later. Even if a woman marries a poor guy, she'll want him to be rich one day (or at least, can provide a life of comfort, if luxury is out of reach). It's not just for her, but for the family.

I didn't disagree with you.  It is precisely because the maxim has been tried and tested and still holds true till now.  But this is a general statement. There are people out there, more than you think, that do not value material wealth as much as many of us here believe. It's hard to find them in Malaysia, easier overseas. And ultimately, it is all a spectrum.  Extremities only exists in the domain of naive thoughts.


5. I agree with the part "borderline cunning". Well, this can be used for good or bad. Anything that is an opinion/ adjective, is always subjective to individual interpretation and depends on the context. If you use it the bad way, then it's cunning. If you use it the good way, then it's strategic. I don't use my intellect to frame/con people, so labelling me as cunning is a bit unfair, isn't it?

Cunning or not, depends on perspective. Based on your way of thinking projected from your posts, I would wager there has been quite many instances where you actions would have been labelled as cunning by some, and at the same time, brilliant by others.  You thrive in the grey zone, hence my label of 'borderline cunning' is justified.


6. You're talking in terms of after marriage. My context is before marriage, during dating phase, where finances are separated between partners. You feel secure now, or maybe she gives you the assurance before marriage, hence you don't do either.

She never gave me any assurances in monetary terms. My situation applies to before and after marriage. Even today, our finances are still separate, but I still support her.  In fact, when we started dating, her income is lower than mine.  But when the opportunity for the huge jump came along and she hesitated, it was me who encouraged her to take it up.  Even though I know she will eclipse my income significantly, it is better for her. In a relationship, it is about giving.  I learned this from her.

In terms of feeling threatened, I do admit that I'm one of the few outliers who are very secure by nature.  So that may help, but more importantly, I have role models which I can see that it is actually ok for the women to earn more as long as the man is not too far behind and is always trying. Heck, the family is so much happier and more stable than rich man being the sole bread-winner type.


Lastly, why do I take this route? Simple. I don't have the patience to wait for a man to build up his wealth from scratch. When a man is a few years older than me, and when I was taking years of youth to build my own wealth, what was he doing? Why should I wait for a man in his 30s to build his wealth when I myself, in my 20s, have built mine? Don't you think there's incompatibility issues here, in terms of level of ambition, intellect and capability?

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Intellect and capability?  Don't be so fast to judge.  Just because someone is not there today does not mean that he/she is not capable.  I have experienced this first hand, and the experience is what I would describe as 'humbling'. You may be intelligent, but you're very judgmental and stubborn. There are many different perspectives which you believe is wrong or did not consider before, but may very well hold true in the other perspective. Someone who is not rich may be just biding time, waiting for the right opportunity. Luck plays a big role too. 

So yes, there may be incompatibility issues, but only because you made it so.  When I dated my wife, I thought she was just a normal girl, and her way of thinking is really weird and will not get her far.  But I must say, I was wrong.  She operates in a different environment where her style actually thrives. I learn from it, and even though I have a big ego, I was wise enough to humble myself, and learn that what I know is only true due to circumstances of my surroundings.

& why I aim for material success? Coz without bread and butter, your whatever ideals and morals are BS. If you had suffered poverty before to the point you wanna commit suicide, you wouldn't be thinking of morals and ideals, or "we". That's the last thing you would think of, in fact.

I used to think and still believe ideals is a luxury.  But I am not as cocky as you to discount the opposing view that everyone can afford to have ideals.  Even the most down-trodden of all, those who has been through times of genocide and have seen crimes against humanity, still hold onto ideals.  So what the f*ck makes you and me qualify to say that ideals and morals are BS?  Learn some REAL humility.

Btw, what do you expect, me marrying a plain ordinary man? I can't. Firstly, he'll get intimated and overwhelmed by my ambition and goals. Secondly, I need someone who is equally strong and supportive, in terms of personal character, abilities and finances, to be able to handle the challenges that come along. Thirdly, by going far and beyond in life, do you think plain ordinary men would want this? Most of them may just want a quiet & simple life, but that's not the life I want.

You choose your own life.  Intimidated or not depends on both parties.  I would not even consider women like you even if I come from a rich family (I don't).  Your view of Malaysian men is generally correct, most are timid and ball-less, yada, yada.  Many posts in this forum exemplifies that. I don't think marrying a rich man is something extraordinary.  Good yes, but nothing to shout about.  Marrying someone with great potential, and walk the path with him and help him achieve greatness; now that's something.

FYI, my fiance and I have been interviewed by the media a few times. Our names & pics appeared in websites of FMT, The Malaysian Insider, The Star & BFM, to date. Just last week, I was interviewed by local film-making crew; took 2 hours. That's the type of life I am living.

I didn't know you're a public figure, nor do I care.  Public figures have a different life than ordinary people, and most of their marriages are not smooth sailing (I'm being tactful here, but you get the meaning).  From a human to another, I wish you luck.

So, if you think there are average income-earners who enjoy media exposure and dare to speak up in public, or establish biz, media and political connections, feel free to introduce to me so that I can have a different POV. Otherwise, based on my years of meeting men and making observations, this is how I currently think.
No I don't know anyone, and I personally don't either. Your life is certainly skewed due to your line of work. Media attracts a certain group of people, so I can see why you're the way you are.

what is deemed as rich in your dictionary?

coz frankly, most people we encounter in daily lives are just middle class, could be upper-mid or lower-mid, earning rm20k salary is just middle class, so do driving a BMW 5 series, many startup entrepreneurs aren't rich, unless you are talking about Bryan Loo or Grab founder Anthony Tan, but that are all thanks to their privileged family backgrounds per se.

you are talking about the league of Vincent Tan or YTL or the timber king in coastal town in Malaysia? But then, all of these require more than just being ambitious. Robert Kwok earned his first bucket of gold due to his friendship to his Japanese boss whom gave him free supplies hence the free profit, luck did played its part here. From what I read from his memoirs, he was merely trying to improve his father's business from the beginning, and did not think of any other mega businesses at the time, so can you say he ain't that ambitious from the beginning?

my point is, everyone's time is different, you can be a millionaire by 30, yet you can be declared bankrupt at the age of 40; there are people who eventually started up a long lasting business at the age of 65, after countless failures of previous attempts, and that person was Colonel Sanders

if you cannot endure hardships with him before his succeed, what makes you think he needs you when he is successful one day?

Thanks, BrendonStar.

Well, my background? It's very sad actually.

I grew up in an abusive, broken family, which was also poor because family asset was frozen by gov; grandpa died without leaving a will. My parents could only afford the basic minimum.

From young, I didn't have any pocket money, so I often had to borrow from my classmates. Yeah, could never forget how they insulted me, "Har? You're so poor meh? Why need to borrow RM1?"

That was humiliation. So I'd rather starve myself sometimes. I also stole before, coz I was too hungry. I grew up having a weak body, always fainted in school coz of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) and anemia (looked pale).

I realised the importance of money when I was 14 y.o. It was flag day (fund-raising for uniformed body), so my friends and I went around to ask for donation. Then there was this old man, in the hawker centre, said, "讨什么讨，自己不会去赚啊?!" ("beg money for what, go earn it yourself!"). Then he spat on the ground.

Ever since then, I swore to myself to get rich. I had enough of poverty. It was a nightmare.

I was the only one from my hometown who made it to University of Malaya; first-choice course and first-choice uni. Took PTPTN, worked part-time while studying, about 40 hours a week, Monday to Saturday. Sunday was the only day I had to study for tests & finish my assignments for 6-8 subjects. That was my life for a few years, even while doing postgrad studies.

I don't want my children to suffer like me anymore, so I want them to have the best mother (and father) they can ever have. This includes giving them the best environment they can grow up in. All this requires $$$.

That's the other side of my story. In front, I look glamorous, beautiful and successful, but behind, all scars. Can't wipe away my past, but can move on to better future. Tears can't solve problems, but actions can. People can sympathize and emphatize, but it is you yourself who have to do something to change your fate.

If you guys have never been through all these, then don't judge easily. It only shows your ignorance.

Haha... well, coz I understand men better than most women. The way men think and behave, feel and express is very different from women's, so yeah, I actually read plenty of books, articles and watch videos to understand men so that I can better manage the relationship.

While for guys, it's kinda challenging to understand women better, coz women experience something called mood swing & PMS, and they use hints and cues in communication.

Hard work, bro. 
Not all guys like romantic dates. Some guys would feel uneasy to date formally in a posh restaurant, with proper dining etiquette and social dance.

Both my bf and I are the romantic type. I think it's because of our upbringing and social class, i.e. British-style upper-middle class. If you know me in real life, I'm a lady and I grew up wearing dresses, blouses and skirts and heels from young, was taught to speak softly and gently, and act prim and proper, while he's a gentleman and was taught to respect women & be refined. When we first dated, he sent me love poems that use 'thee, thou, thine' (Early Modern English), which I thought was romantic. LOL. Well, we both like classic literature.

So yeah, romantic dates also depend on what both partners interpret as 'romantic'.
He and I have discussed this. I told him I need a nanny to help take care of children. On my part, I have a few years to build my career & diversify income sources. I told him I would work part-time/ work from home/ freelance (been there, done that; earning more than a full-time job). Plus I'm financially literate while he's a high income earner. I'll be managing my own money and part of his money to plan ahead for our babies, so no problem.

meh, who cares about her. Unless she suspended your acct for interfering ppls thread that you can report to admin. Until that her comment is a just comment with zero credibility. What did she post again? i wont remember useless post.

Just explained.

Yes, I did. Made a number of new friends too.

Seriously guys, stop trolling. How many people do I need to warn for trolling?

TS is entitled to her opinion and methods in getting what she wants. It's her life, her face, her body and choice. Who are we, or anyone here (all strangers and keyboard warriors) to judge? If she's a gold digger then it's her fiancee who should be worried and not anyone here, because it's none of our business.

At the end of the day, you cannot deny that she worked hard to get what she wants. Her effort and money was poured into "improving" herself physically while most of us put these effort into work, hobbies, learning a skill etc for a better future. On the opposite, I always believe in inner beauty and one's own ability to do something/ be independent. That's more important than beauty and youth, which fades in time. An ability or capability is something irreplaceable. It stays with you. However, it's a choice to choose which aspect you want to be better. It's HER choice, why so angry about it?

Everyone pursues different things in life. She pursues luxury while some of us don't. Even the definition of "rich" and "happiness" varies in each person's dictionary. It's okay to not be able to understand why she did that, but don't ever stereotype women or diss people just because they think or behave differently. Each of us are individuals - we are our own self, and you will always be who or what you choose to be.

You are making a severe accusation here. Just because things don't make sense to you = I'm trolling? How binary can you be?

I welcome moderators to check; pm's from them are welcomed.

In fact, you're helping me to be even way more convincing on this forum, coz once my ID and appearance gets verified by them, and they issue an official statement... :thumbsup:

My question is, can you really take it when your personal assumptions and biased opinions, are totally crushed to pieces?

Remember, the truth always hurts... your ego, in this case.

Chill bro.....she is not committing any crime here, TS is merely sharing how she met her other half n a road to success from her pov and i thought we all agree that everyone has some extend of imaginary version of his/her own story. It's entirely up to readers on how to assimilated it into his/her own reality. Maybe we should just focus on the points being discussed without referring to real life experience example but on the logic point of view

@DoomCognition & @doomgoy,
Until your ID is proven, I shall not respond to any of your trolling comments. Blame @DoomCognition for starting it first, in Post#299. He cried to the moderators first, not me.

Yeah, feel the claws from an alpha she-wolf. Hope you like it.

Oh, forgot to mention my fiance is a lawyer himself (Oh wait, I did mention it in Post#74. )

You wanna play? I'll play the real game with you, in the real world, and let you feel the real consequences. It'll be more fun and exciting that way.

I'm not pissed off yet, so yeah, you're still safe.

sweet_pez take action please.

I'm sure any person here who wanna create dupes, will know that it's common sense to change their writing/posting style. Otherwise, what's the purpose of having dupes?

Then you take it out on sweet_pez. Why lash the anger out at me? I'm sure she's a sensible person, and other moderators are, too.

From what i can see here is that TS's main intention is to share out her experiences and methods for the betterment of other forumers here.

Of course, it is common that not every single person will be having the same views with TS or even agreed on what TS been doing hence there's an intense discussion going on over here in this thread.

This actually serves the purpose of this forum and this section, which is to seek advice and also to discuss.

With the discussion going on in this thread, every single user will have the opportunity to read through the opinions and points of both parties and come into their own conclusion on how they shall do with their life.

Which is why I find that it is not necessary to label TS as a troll or any other personal name calling. 

Besides that, I also find that it's rather disrespectful to tag other moderators/staffs/admins into this thread. Because LYN itself has a proper channel to voice or to complain about any sort of dissatisfaction towards mods/staffs/admins.

So, it will be more proper if you can file a formal complaint on the respective mod by opening a thread in the helpdesk instead.