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TSLazyKurosaki
post Jul 15 2018, 11:47 PM, updated 8y ago

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Hi guys,

Just bought one of the commercial property in puchong for own stay. I saw one of the thread that we can convert the following rate to residential

1 electric
2 water
3 assessment

May I know if this is true?

The property also est to complete next year latest June. Is it better for me to apply for full installment instead of just serving interest?
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post Jul 15 2018, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Jul 15 2018, 11:47 PM)
Hi guys,

Just bought one of the commercial property in puchong for own stay. I saw one of the thread that we can convert the following rate to residential

1 electric
2 water
3 assessment

May I know if this is true?

The property also est to complete next year latest June. Is it better for me to apply for full installment instead of just serving interest?
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No... commercial rate = Service apartment etc.

Residential rate = condo etc.

If you bought a service apartment, you pay commercial rate
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post Jul 15 2018, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Jul 15 2018, 11:49 PM)
No... commercial rate = Service apartment etc.

Residential rate = condo etc.

If you bought a service apartment, you pay commercial rate
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But how come the developer told me that he will apply on behalf of all of buyers to convert the "Commercial" rate (due to Commercial Land) for utility, quit rent and assessment into "Residential Rate"???

The developer claimed that the whole building will be built purely for residential purpose (meaning no shopping malls attached), so it may be possible to convert from commercial rate to residential rate.....the service apartment is estimated to complete construction in 2020.
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post Jul 15 2018, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(Lonely12345 @ Jul 15 2018, 11:55 PM)
But how come the developer told me that he will apply on behalf of all of buyers to convert the "Commercial" rate (due to Commercial Land) for utility, quit rent and assessment into "Residential Rate"???

The developer claimed that the whole building will be built purely for residential purpose (meaning no shopping malls attached), so it may be possible to convert from commercial rate to residential rate.....the service apartment is estimated to complete construction in 2020.
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Doesn't matter, if it is called serviced apartment.. it is commercial rate.

The main reason is because it is build on commercial land....

If it is not built on commercial land they won't be calling it service apartment in the first place


Also, they are not allowed to build condo on commercial land... so in order to go about this, they build "service apartment" even though there is no service involved (housekeeping, room service, F&B etc )

This post has been edited by JasonLeeX: Jul 16 2018, 12:02 AM
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post Jul 16 2018, 10:51 AM

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tnb can conver,

take a photo copy of your ic and go to nearest TNB to apply

take 1-2week time then you will receive an email or sms that sucess to convert

**some TNB might need a lot of document to proof as a residence like photo of your unit
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post Jul 16 2018, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Jul 15 2018, 11:47 PM)
Hi guys,

Just bought one of the commercial property in puchong for own stay. I saw one of the thread that we can convert the following rate to residential

1 electric
2 water
3 assessment

May I know if this is true?

The property also est to complete next year latest June. Is it better for me to apply for full installment instead of just serving interest?
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err if property is listed as commercial then all utilities will also under commercial..
better to stick to commercial coz can rent like ABnB..

if you can afford then why not? can save some interest also but you will need to check with the bank coz it depends on the contract that you sign
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post Jul 16 2018, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Jul 16 2018, 10:51 AM)
tnb can conver,

take a photo copy of your ic and go to nearest TNB to apply

take 1-2week time then you will receive an email or sms that sucess to convert

**some TNB might need a lot of document to proof as a residence like photo of your unit
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don't think so la as per said by previous replied..
the property was build using commercial land already so all register as commercial..or else all owner will convert it to residential but use it for commercial purposes..
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post Jul 16 2018, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(montyashley80 @ Jul 16 2018, 11:00 AM)
don't think so la as per said by previous replied..
the property was build using commercial land already so all register as commercial..or else all owner will convert it to residential but use it for commercial purposes..
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my friend who stays in centrestage (service apartment under HDA on commercial land) successfully converted electricity to residential rate. apply sendiri. for water, cannot. have to pay commercial.

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Can you appeal for lower tariffs?
According to Syabas, high-rises such as condominiums and apartments that are non-low-cost fall under Tariff Code 17 while low-cost flats are under Tariff Code 18.


Generally, a residential property on commercial land incurs higher utility charges.

Service apartments are classified under the commercial category and they fall under Tariff Code 11. Water is supplied through a bulk meter and residents would need to pay a minimum monthly water bill of RM36.

Syabas has a migration programme where those living in Tariff Codes 17 and 18 are eligible to participate with residents enjoying domestic water tariff rates – those paid by owners of landed residential properties.

Unfortunately, service apartments are not eligible to participate in the migration programme.

As for electricity tariffs, there is no general consensus. However, there are cases, including that of the writer, where an appeal to the nearest TNB branch was successful and the tariffs were changed from commercial to residential.

One reason for this is that serviced apartments and SoHos now fall under the Housing Development Act, meaning these premises have been recognised for residential usage.

This post has been edited by littlewing: Jul 16 2018, 01:30 PM
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post Jul 16 2018, 01:15 PM

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Is it possible to appeal for lower assessment rate?? My prop is under sepang council. I see that commercial n residential nt much diff
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post Jul 17 2018, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Jul 15 2018, 11:47 PM)
Hi guys,

Just bought one of the commercial property in puchong for own stay. I saw one of the thread that we can convert the following rate to residential

1 electric
2 water
3 assessment

May I know if this is true?

The property also est to complete next year latest June. Is it better for me to apply for full installment instead of just serving interest?
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electricity and assessment can apply

you would need to show the SPA (to make sure it's under HDA and not commercial SPA) and also they need to see floor plan to make sure it's intended for residential usage.

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post Jul 17 2018, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Jul 17 2018, 08:49 AM)
electricity and assessment can apply

you would need to show the SPA (to make sure it's under HDA and not commercial SPA) and also they need to see floor plan to make sure it's intended for residential usage.
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Spa and snp same or not?? The property is under HDA as told by the agent
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Jul 17 2018, 08:59 AM)
Spa and snp same or not?? The property is under HDA as told by the agent
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yes it refers to the same thing.

if it's under HDA then your SPA will state "SCHEDULE H of Housing Developer....." on the first page.
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post Jul 17 2018, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(montyashley80 @ Jul 16 2018, 11:00 AM)
don't think so la as per said by previous replied..
the property was build using commercial land already so all register as commercial..or else all owner will convert it to residential but use it for commercial purposes..
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It can be done. I did it for my condo under commercial land but subject to tnb approval.
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QUOTE(Lonely12345 @ Jul 15 2018, 11:55 PM)
But how come the developer told me that he will apply on behalf of all of buyers to convert the "Commercial" rate (due to Commercial Land) for utility, quit rent and assessment into "Residential Rate"???

The developer claimed that the whole building will be built purely for residential purpose (meaning no shopping malls attached), so it may be possible to convert from commercial rate to residential rate.....the service apartment is estimated to complete construction in 2020.
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Hi , may i know is this property in puchong call SKYLAKE RESIDENCE?
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post Apr 17 2020, 03:57 PM

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Has anyone or you know any condo which is a residential under HDA but commercial title, successfully converted from commercial rate to resindential rate for the water utiltity from SYABAS? That means, rather than bulk meter, you have changed it to individual water meter and SYABAS charging you directly based on residential rate (because you can prove to them you're staying there and no Airbnb).




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Yes, but a very few case like cerita dongeng Aladdin
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post Jan 31 2022, 04:39 PM

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So service apartment's airselangor rate still not able to change to residence rate in 2022?

For those who are paying commercial rate for residential purpose, what is the monthly usage looks like?
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post Jan 31 2022, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(1234_4321 @ Jan 31 2022, 04:39 PM)
So service apartment's airselangor rate still not able to change to residence rate in 2022?

For those who are paying commercial rate for residential purpose, what is the monthly usage looks like?
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Minimum monthly payt RM36.00.
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post Jan 31 2022, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(1234_4321 @ Jan 31 2022, 04:39 PM)
So service apartment's airselangor rate still not able to change to residence rate in 2022?

For those who are paying commercial rate for residential purpose, what is the monthly usage looks like?
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jan 31 2022, 06:01 PM)
Minimum monthly payt RM36.00.
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RM2.28 per unit. 4 times the rate of residential title property.
And no. Not all service apartment charging minimum bill of RM36. I have seen some charging RM6. Some RM11.40. Etc. All depending on the management office. Coz you are paying to them and they in turn will be paying water charges of the whole building to SYABAS.

 

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