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 Honda Malaysia Serious Quality Issue (CKD), Join the fight!Update! Japanese r comin!

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TSwalau
post May 24 2007, 10:11 AM

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More update since some of you don't c first page I post it here.(24/05/2007)

HONDA NOW = DEATH!!! FAILURE AND CRACK ON BRAKE PADS, HOW CAN HONDA PLAY WITH HUMAN LIFE! SHAME ON YOU HONDA!

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CRACKS at both front brake pads (8 Gen civic)
http://eightgc2.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?...mforum=eightgc2
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Another member also have CRACKS at both front brake pads (8 Gen civic)
http://eightgc2.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?...=eightgc2
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Guenhwyvar
post May 24 2007, 10:16 AM

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^ Dude, it's not Honda but Honda Malaysia. Well you know what I mean.
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post May 24 2007, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ May 24 2007, 10:16 AM)
^ Dude, it's not Honda but Honda Malaysia. Well you know what I mean.
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So we were wrong all this while? It's Proton Malaysia's fault, blame Proton Malaysia for all your faulty proton cars!
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post May 24 2007, 10:22 AM

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GUYS, please don't go off topic, here to discuss Honda shitty quality. thank you guys!
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post May 24 2007, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(leowhy @ May 24 2007, 10:08 AM)
i would say its working ethics & mentality... its too common for malaysia working style to be "whatever as long as i finish the job"...  quite sad about that...
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I believe so too... What I find disturbing is that Honda M'sia is actually letting this kinda thing happen to them... shakehead.gif


Added on May 24, 2007, 10:30 am
QUOTE(hypermount @ May 24 2007, 10:20 AM)
So we were wrong all this while? It's Proton Malaysia's fault, blame Proton Malaysia for all your faulty proton cars!
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One or more of your immediate family members or relatives run a Proton dealership, ain't it? smile.gif

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TSwalau
post May 24 2007, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ May 24 2007, 10:16 AM)
^ Dude, it's not Honda but Honda Malaysia. Well you know what I mean.
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Honda Malaysia or not is not the point!

I mean its been how many years since the melaka plant open, if its the first few batch of cars having such bullsh*t problem but LATER FIXS then I might forget it, but after so long batch after batch Honda cars got prob and still honda take it like no big deal, this is malaysia mah, those Malaysian will accept shithole quality as NORMAL! They r biasa with it mah its malaysia after all.

http://world.honda.com/news/2003/c030130.html
Honda Motor Co., Ltd 51%
DRB-HICOM Berhad 34%
Oriental Holdings Berhad 15%

Honda Japan own more then 50% share in Honda Malaysia sdn bhd so its in their interest to never let this problem persist, since it did, then Honda Japan is also guilty!

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Bernard Yeo
post May 24 2007, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(walau @ May 24 2007, 10:11 AM)
More update since some of you don't c first page I post it here.(24/05/2007)

HONDA NOW = DEATH!!! FAILURE AND CRACK ON BRAKE PADS, HOW CAN HONDA PLAY WITH HUMAN LIFE! SHAME ON YOU HONDA!
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That Singam is a hard headed fool with too much time to spare. If the brakes are still crap after a couple of changes, go get some aftermarket ones! Don't get me wrong, I'm all for consumer rights and talking to the newspapers about your problems. But 8 times in the service centre and now don't dare to use the car? That's just dumb.

QUOTE(hypermount @ May 24 2007, 10:20 AM)
So we were wrong all this while? It's Proton Malaysia's fault, blame Proton Malaysia for all your faulty proton cars!
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This is a Honda Malaysia quality bashing thread. We may have to make some comparisons to other Malaysian car manufacturers. If you want to defend Proton for instance, I suggest you open a "Defend Proton" thread.
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post May 24 2007, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Bernard Yeo @ May 24 2007, 10:50 AM)
That Singam is a hard headed fool with too much time to spare. If the brakes are still crap after a couple of changes, go get some aftermarket ones! Don't get me wrong, I'm all for consumer rights and talking to the newspapers about your problems. But 8 times in the service centre and now don't dare to use the car? That's just dumb.
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But dude, not everyone are like us Petrolheads mah... U can't expect everyone to go for aftermarket ones...
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post May 24 2007, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Bernard Yeo @ May 24 2007, 10:50 AM)

This is a Honda Malaysia quality bashing thread. We may have to make some comparisons to other Malaysian car manufacturers. If you want to defend Proton for instance, I suggest you open a "Defend Proton" thread.
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OT : to be fair to all, if you all want to compare, please compare. Dont bash. Thats why people like hypermount continues post here.

sorry TS.
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post May 24 2007, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Vanquish @ May 24 2007, 11:01 AM)
But dude, not everyone are like us Petrolheads mah... U can't expect everyone to go for aftermarket ones...
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I'm not saying Singam should get Brembos or Endless. At least get a good mechanic to look for a previous Accord model's brakes. It's his money and it's his family's life on the line. A car is suppose to work for you, not the other way around. Servicing the loan and not driving it is just making the car a white elephant. Well, that's how I feel about his situation.
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post May 24 2007, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Bernard Yeo @ May 24 2007, 11:18 AM)
I'm not saying Singam should get Brembos or Endless. At least get a good mechanic to look for a previous Accord model's brakes. It's his money and it's his family's life on the line. A car is suppose to work for you, not the other way around. Servicing the loan and not driving it is just making the car a white elephant. Well, that's how I feel about his situation.
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When you put down 120K and they can't even get the brakes right, you'll get pissed, he's upset that he got that kind of stuff not just upset the pads cracked.
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post May 24 2007, 11:55 AM

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Aiyya..I want to trade in my wira for a City..so Honda not so good...haizzz...
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post May 24 2007, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(sranua @ May 24 2007, 11:55 AM)
Aiyya..I  want to trade in my wira for a City..so Honda not so good...haizzz...
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Get a Mazda, u'll be happy with it, damn reliable car, seriously... Except that their resale value sucks...

Or, wait for the new Nissan Latio...

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If they employ retard technicians, u get retarded jobs ...
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post May 24 2007, 03:03 PM

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MCH... city, jazz, cr-v assembled in malaysia, why they (government) still don't lower the price, since the tax structure now is different doh.gif
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post May 24 2007, 03:10 PM

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hi bernard,
i get what you meant by changing to after market brakes. but hold your horses.

if thats the case, (change to after market brakes just because stock brakes is giving problem) won't this give car makers a chance to tie up with those aftermarket parts provider ?

the car makers can put faulty or lousy brake system and when the owner complain, guide them to the nearest aftermarket and tell them to upgrade ?

wont a whole new world of abuse and cronism will crop up ?

after all, the person in the newspaper paid like 140k for his car and one of the most important part of the car, the brakes, is still faulty even after 8 times in the SC. 1 or 2 times is still acceptable, but 8 times ?

after all its honda we are talking about here. i am sure they could do better then this...
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 24 2007, 03:03 PM)
MCH... city, jazz, cr-v assembled in malaysia, why they (government) still don't lower the price, since the tax structure now is different doh.gif
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Erm, Jazz is not assembled here, it's imported from Thailand. smile.gif
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post May 24 2007, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ May 24 2007, 03:10 PM)
hi bernard,
i get what you meant by changing to after market brakes. but hold your horses.

if thats the case, (change to after market brakes just because stock brakes is giving problem) won't this give car makers a chance to tie up with those aftermarket parts provider ?

the car makers can put faulty or lousy brake system and when the owner complain, guide them to the nearest aftermarket and tell them to upgrade ?

wont a whole new world of abuse and cronism will crop up ?

after all, the person in the newspaper paid like 140k for his car and one of the most important part of the car, the brakes, is still faulty even after 8 times in the SC. 1 or 2 times is still acceptable, but 8 times ?

after all its honda we are talking about here. i am sure they could do better then this...
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You got a point. But notice this. On the 9th time he just keeps the car in the house. He's given up taking the car back to the SC, yet he still has to service the loan. I know there are people who have the tenacity (and they have the right) to keep going back to the service centre 20-63 times over the same problem during the warranty period. They can also keep themselves very unhappy because 4 days out of a week the car is in the SC.

I'm just in the opinion that Singam should go look for previous model brakes. Treat it as his feng shui for Accord brakes is not good this year or something. Other than the brakes, the car is generally fine. If he can use the car, I'm sure he'll be smiling every time he is behind the wheel. Yeah, he may feel cheated and he's not getting his money's worth, but at least he gets to use the car.

As for cronism, lets just say, no car manufacturer wants to be known as "All their brand new cars have brake problems." That kind of negative label stays for a long time and it only serves to drive potential buyers to other brands.
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QUOTE(Bernard Yeo @ May 24 2007, 04:03 PM)
You got a point. But notice this. On the 9th time he just keeps the car in the house. He's given up taking the car back to the SC, yet he still has to service the loan. I know there are people who have the tenacity (and they have the right) to keep going back to the service centre 20-63 times over the same problem during the warranty period. They can also keep themselves very unhappy because 4 days out of a week the car is in the SC.

I'm just in the opinion that Singam should go look for previous model brakes. Treat it as his feng shui for Accord brakes is not good this year or something. Other than the brakes, the car is generally fine. If he can use the car, I'm sure he'll be smiling every time he is behind the wheel. Yeah, he may feel cheated and he's not getting his money's worth, but at least he gets to use the car.

As for cronism, lets just say, no car manufacturer wants to be known as "All their brand new cars have brake problems." That kind of negative label stays for a long time and it only serves to drive potential buyers to other brands.
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yeah i got your point where he gave up and kept the car in the house......

no prob, your opinion is very much accepted...
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post May 24 2007, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ May 24 2007, 04:40 PM)
yeah i got your point where he gave up and kept the car in the house......

no prob, your opinion is very much accepted...
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You know what Bernard, that's not right, if we change the brake system then Honda will just say its not their fault anymore, if not just him they are also some accord ckd owner that have this brake problem just that one brave soul went public! not to mention its 140k++...

if he change the brake system to some after market one then Honda will can get away with this because he void the warranty by changing to after market brake and Honda can go laughing all the way to the bank, typical foolish Malaysian who just accept it and change it to after market and suffer in silents that is why Malaysia never improve and proton still alive cause we just never complain and just say biasalah, its malaysian made or tak apa, tukar saja ke after market one!

And I am quite sure after market brake system don't come cheap. If he just keep silents then the public will never know about this.

What you're saying is like you bought a 500k++ house and the roof collapse due to poor build quality, but its your problem mah, malaysia mah go fix yourself mah, how you feel???

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