Hi all RECENT HONDA CKD cars owners, some of you including me may feel cheated by what Honda Malaysia recent build quality degration! I bought my civic recently CKD model and I got never ending build quality issue.

I have seen a lot of ppl say this is CKD and we must accept! How can this be? How can we let Honda take us for a ride on a 120++ car! Most people complain to dealers and if the dealers say " biasala ini made in Malaysia". This is wrong. Consumers have rights.

(Update)
For my complains:
My comment here on the rattling noise here (8 Gen civic)
http://eightgc2.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?...mforum=eightgc2

And the thin outer layer steel problem here (8 Gen civic)
http://eightgc2.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?...mforum=eightgc2

The A pillar problem , just take a look here (8 Gen civic)
http://eightgc2.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?...mforum=eightgc2


More update (24/05/2007)
HONDA NOW = DEATH!!! FAILURE AND CRACK ON BRAKE PADS, HOW CAN HONDA PLAY WITH HUMAN LIFE! SHAME ON YOU HONDA!

(Honda Accord brake failure!!!)


CRACKS at both front brake pads (8 Gen civic)
http://eightgc2.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?...mforum=eightgc2



Another member also have CRACKS at both front brake pads (8 Gen civic)
http://eightgc2.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?...=eightgc2



For a list of complain by other member of that forum just go visit here:
http://eightgc2.forumup.com/viewforum.php?...mforum=eightgc2

Its time we act! We must do something about it and not just accept it cause that is why Honda Malaysia will never improve, in the USA if something like this happen, Honda will be sued kau kau and NBC will air it for all to see, so I think we should do a similar thing here or else Honda Malaysia will never improved! And in USA Honda will never dare to pull such a stunt cause they know the price they will pay, So if you just biasa la ini made in Malaysia punya Honda then Honda think we Malaysia consumer are so stupid we just accept shity quality as NORMAL!!!!!!

So my fighting brother and sister Its time we act! !!! Join all the fighters here! (not up to date anymore)
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/to...?TOPIC_ID=19210

see some pic taken when they stormed Honda on 17thMay2007.
Photos are here: (photos were removed due to possible complications with honda)
http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb105/myzoro/

Write to myzoro at myzoro@yahoo.com and join force with him in KL. If possible he will gather about 20-30 people before he go to TV3 TV9 or whatsoever television firms.

Do anything to complain! Phone them, email them, go see them, lodge a formal complain, etc...

Pusat Khidmat Aduan Pengguna Nasional (NCCC)

No. 1D, Bangunan SPKK, Jalan SS9A/17
Petaling Jaya
Selangor
Malaysia
47300

nccc@nccc.org.my
03-78779000/78748096
03-78748097

AND

also

http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index.cgi?lang=english

Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri Dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna
Lot 2G3, Pusat Pentadbiran Kerajaan Persekutuan
Precint 2, Putrajaya, Malaysia. 62623
Hotline : 1800-886-800

603-8882 5500
603-8882 5762

Write to Mr P. Jeevananth <pjeevananth@kpdnhep.gov.my>,
or call him directly at 016-2333910

Hope to see you in this struggle for justice!!

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Latest UPDATE: 26/05/2007

Honda has finally responded to myzoro and all his friends which means they successfully force Honda Malaysia to do something about all the build quality problem. So now Honda Malaysia has ask the Japanese from Japan I suppose to come to the USJ service centre to take a look for themselves!

So all you Honda CKD cars owner that have things to complain about your new car please go there and support myzoro and his friends! The accord and civic owner will be there! Hope to see some honda city drivers, I'm sure the city CKD drivers have issue as well, if your car is a cbu unit which I'm pretty sure are quite problem free when its new so please don't go for this meeting as this meeting are specifically for new honda cars that are ckd.

So! Make sure you guys go at 1st JUNE/ FRIDAY at 9.a.m meet them at USJ service centre.

Coordinate everything with myzoro (myzoro@yahoo.com) for the meeting. Look for myzoro or any of the other honda drivers going there to complain.

and finally demand kau kau!!! Lol, Hopefully honda will do things professional and solved the problem. I guess we kampung Honda can only hope honda will finally solve the a pillar problem and the other issue when I take my car to service. oh well better then doing nothing lah i guess...

So Show those Japanese so they know how suckky Honda Malaysia is and maybe Just maybe the Japanese will step in and future Honda owner in Malaysia will have peace of mind when they get their new car.

Thanks again to tai ko myzoro , you're the man at least now something is being done by Honda.


This post has been edited by walau: Jun 6 2007, 11:54 AM

The best will be total recall for all CKD cars affected by the defects, but I know that's not gonna happen.

The second best will be firing of all upper management staff for failing to deliver car of acceptable quality, its Honda we're talking here, not Proton.

I know what you mean when you ask the question, Most typical Malaysian will ask "So what do they expect to get out of this nothing can be done anyway..." its because most Malaysian don't act that proton still alive, if we never do anything then nothing will change, it we act then at least they is a chance for change.

Well, at least more ppl will know Honda cars (CKD) is not = to Quality! So hopefully less victim. I just don't understand how can Honda Japan oversee this.

This post has been edited by walau: May 23 2007, 01:28 PM

More update since some of you don't c first page I post it here.(24/05/2007)

HONDA NOW = DEATH!!! FAILURE AND CRACK ON BRAKE PADS, HOW CAN HONDA PLAY WITH HUMAN LIFE! SHAME ON YOU HONDA!

(accord)


CRACKS at both front brake pads (8 Gen civic)
http://eightgc2.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?...mforum=eightgc2



Another member also have CRACKS at both front brake pads (8 Gen civic)
http://eightgc2.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?...=eightgc2



This post has been edited by walau: May 24 2007, 10:14 AM

GUYS, please don't go off topic, here to discuss Honda shitty quality. thank you guys!

Honda Malaysia or not is not the point!

I mean its been how many years since the melaka plant open, if its the first few batch of cars having such bullsh*t problem but LATER FIXS then I might forget it, but after so long batch after batch Honda cars got prob and still honda take it like no big deal, this is malaysia mah, those Malaysian will accept shithole quality as NORMAL! They r biasa with it mah its malaysia after all.

http://world.honda.com/news/2003/c030130.html
Honda Motor Co., Ltd 51%
DRB-HICOM Berhad 34%
Oriental Holdings Berhad 15%

Honda Japan own more then 50% share in Honda Malaysia sdn bhd so its in their interest to never let this problem persist, since it did, then Honda Japan is also guilty!

This post has been edited by walau: May 24 2007, 11:12 AM

You know what Bernard, that's not right, if we change the brake system then Honda will just say its not their fault anymore, if not just him they are also some accord ckd owner that have this brake problem just that one brave soul went public! not to mention its 140k++...

if he change the brake system to some after market one then Honda will can get away with this because he void the warranty by changing to after market brake and Honda can go laughing all the way to the bank, typical foolish Malaysian who just accept it and change it to after market and suffer in silents that is why Malaysia never improve and proton still alive cause we just never complain and just say biasalah, its malaysian made or tak apa, tukar saja ke after market one!

And I am quite sure after market brake system don't come cheap. If he just keep silents then the public will never know about this.

What you're saying is like you bought a 500k++ house and the roof collapse due to poor build quality, but its your problem mah, malaysia mah go fix yourself mah, how you feel???

This post has been edited by walau: May 24 2007, 05:13 PM

They is a speed maniac at the civic fan forum, constantly drive around @ 200KM++ somemore tayang his speed by showing some photo, I guess if he drives around that speed, the car should be stable or else dare not to drive at that speed, I drove mine up to 170km and the car was very stable. anyway its the interior suffering the quality problem, the exterior is ok lah imho and of cause the engine is the one thing I have nothing to complain but give praise.

This post has been edited by walau: May 26 2007, 10:18 AM

Latest UPDATE: 26/05/2007

Honda has finally responded to myzoro and all his friends which means they successfully force Honda Malaysia to do something about all the build quality problem. So now Honda Malaysia has ask the Japanese from Japan I suppose to come to the USJ service centre to take a look for themselves!

So all you Honda CKD cars owner that have things to complain about your new car please go there and support myzoro and his friends! The accord and civic owner will be there! Hope to see some honda city drivers, I'm sure the city CKD drivers have issue as well, if your car is a cbu unit which I'm pretty sure are quite problem free when its new so please don't go for this meeting as this meeting are specifically for new honda cars that are ckd.

So! Make sure you guys go at 1st JUNE/ FRIDAY at 9.a.m meet them at USJ service centre.

Coordinate everything with myzoro (myzoro@yahoo.com) for the meeting. Look for myzoro or any of the other honda drivers going there to complain.

and finally demand kau kau!!! Lol, Hopefully honda will do things professional and solved the problem. I guess we kampung Honda can only hope honda will finally solve the a pillar problem and the other issue when I take my car to service. oh well better then doing nothing lah i guess...

So Show those Japanese so they know how suckky Honda Malaysia is and maybe Just maybe the Japanese will step in and future Honda owner in Malaysia will have peace of mind when they get their new car.

Thanks again to tai ko myzoro , you're the man at least now something is being done by Honda.


This post has been edited by walau: May 26 2007, 10:44 AM

Again thank you myzoro , alright you guys, coordinate everything with myzoro (myzoro@yahoo.com) for the meeting and follow his advice.

Also could you guys take some picture of the meeting and post it here, I would love to see it. Thanks in advance!

from what I heard, city got some gear box issue where got some kind of sound when going at high speed, also the interior also suffer from quality issue like the civic lot's of rattling sound, buy if you can live with it.

Myzoro, please keep us updated on Honda Malaysia. thanks.

Its been quite a while myzoro... any updates yet???

Latest update from myzoro...


I'm not too sure why confidential but that's what he says. I guess honda is fixing the problem quietly so the public not aware of it so Honda can save their ass and face. But that's my guess, anyway doing something is better than doing nothing.

Look at the Top Gear | BBC Top Gear Survey 2006 - http://www.topgear.com/content/carsurvey/2006/

The winners: Honda S2000.
Best for build quality: Honda S2000.
Best in class: again Honda S2000 wins.

from What I heard, only Honda's car build in Malaysia truly sucks big time, Do note the word "Malaysia". Thailand's build also got some problem but not as bad as Malaysia.

My point is Honda's car suck only in Malaysia while protons's car sucks everywhere. its even an insult comparing any proton's car with a Honda when proton only prove to be little crying baby that needs a mommy to feed him even after 20years of being spoon fed... while honda has more than proven themselves in the world stage though fail miserably in Malaysia (HM started in 2003 I think) and to some extend thailand's ckd cars as well. So my point is, Honda only has major defect for its Malaysia ckd cars, while proton...hah, I don't even know where to start... like you said "the world is bigger than you think" so I think from this I can say a lot more ppl like honda than ppl who like proton. and if they are ppl who like protons its because its cheap and not because its good.

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Added on July 2, 2007, 11:05 amOne last point, after bagging at Honda Malaysia a billion times and forcibly demanding HM fix my car's problem, my car's problem have finally drop to an somewhat acceptable level though its not perfect but good enough and way better than my proton iswara ride last time.

This post has been edited by walau: Jul 2 2007, 11:33 AM