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 LYN PERODUA All-New MYVI Gen 3 - V2 [MG3], Passion Engineered - Dual VVT-i

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post Mar 19 2019, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 19 2019, 11:18 AM)
It's the one on the right front side when you're facing the engine.
The tank is the same as in the picture.

Am i doing it wrong?
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The expansion tank has a hose running from the radiator cap into its cap. Windscreen washer tank has a simple cap with no hose.
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post Mar 19 2019, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 19 2019, 11:48 AM)
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I've just checked my engine, that is the coolant tank that I'm talking about.
It's all water inside thou, during collection of the car I don't think its ever coolant inside.
I've been adding water regularly and believe me i wouldn't if i know its another liquid substance inside.

Is it advisable to change it? maybe get some anti rust coolant.
How often does it need to be topped?
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The replenishment rate is usually very low, if at all.
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post Mar 19 2019, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ Mar 19 2019, 12:22 PM)
On the Start Stop feature, how come it can restart the car even when the gear is still in D?
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If the engineers can program the car not to start when in D, they can also program the car to be able to start in D in start-stop mode. Else you would have to do this:
Stop at traffic light - engine goes off.

When it's time to move, you shift to neutral, pull handbrake, release brake pedal - engine starts.
Put to D.
Step on the brake pedal.
Release handbrake.
Move the car.
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post Mar 19 2019, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 19 2019, 12:56 PM)
Ok guys, i've just called in the service center i visited during my 1k and they said it isn't necessary and i shouldn't be worried.

Apparently using water as a coolant is acceptable for a new car and the radiator coolant flush is done as a routine during your 20k service.
As long as the car is running smoothly they advise to continue what i'm doing and never topup the water above the FULL indicator.
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Do seek second opinion. I didn't know Myvi require coolant flush at 20k. Or for that matter, any car.
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post Mar 19 2019, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 19 2019, 02:10 PM)
Wouldn't be fair if every MYVI is equipped with the pink coolant but mine is water since it came out from factory.
and the damage its already done, how are they gonna warrant this.
I'm getting my car over to the service center first thing tmr morning to get to the bottom of this.

Good thing i saw the sirap bandung post this morning.
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Are you going to the same SC?
And do check your owner's manual to see if coolant flushing is done every 20k km.
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post Mar 19 2019, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 19 2019, 03:16 PM)
Only my car using water as coolant since factory, whilst other MYVI is the pink liquid substance by default.
Asked them what did they CHECK since 1k already went there but they didn't notify me, they say need go CHECK first.
Conclusion, they don't want to take the blame and thinks I'm the one who removed the coolant and insert water.

Gave them the benefit of my doubt, heading over to the same service center tmr at 830AM.

In any case, they provided me a car which is already different than all the other MYVIs out there.
I hope there isn't any serious rusting, I just checked the coolant bottle and the water is still clear with a slight brown hue.

will Perodua compensate me for their indiligence?
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Do keep us updated. If you have Googled, you'll know why cars need coolant.

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post Mar 19 2019, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(xcves @ Mar 19 2019, 08:33 PM)
Oh dear.

The amount of misinformation from the earlier posts..

Radiator coolant unless there's a leakage or some other problems generally dont need to be bothered with for a long time.. as long as it remains close to the full line you are good to go..

You only need to top up (and with the same kind of coolant) if it falls below the full line..

You can use water but ONLY as an emergency in cases where lets say there was a leakage  and you are out of coolant. In that case what you need to do is top up with water and then drive to your nearest SC to check the problem AND to replenish it back with a suitable coolant. Not continue running the car with plain ol water..

And to jtee, for them to say you can use water and just radiator flush until 20k km service is.. idk what else to say. There's just so much wrong with those statement..
And also you dont do radiator flush every 20k km. Like i said, the coolant hardly ever needs replacement, ever. Unless theres inherent problems in the first place..
The reason we need coolant is because the radiator will not work unless theres coolant. And if radiators dont work, that will cause your engine to overheat.. and the reason water is not suitable is because water has a lower boiling point than coolants. So the water will get boiled (and turned from liquid to gas) before it can even do a proper job of cooling the engines.
Hence you see a warning on radiator caps not to open it with a hot engine or else you'll get severely burned by the gust of steam rushing out..

Coolants on the other hand have chemicals in them which make them more resistant to the high temperatures and allow them to stay as liquid which in turn allows it to circulate and cool the engine off...
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What misinformation from earlier posts are you referring to?
It's interesting you mentioned radiators will not work without coolant because it will boil without coolant...wonder what made you think like that.
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post Mar 19 2019, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(xcves @ Mar 19 2019, 09:00 PM)
Misinformation such as 20k radiator flush is a routine servicing item and also its alright to run on water as coolant..

I said water will boil. Not radiators will boil.
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Ok, what made you think water in radiator will boil if we don't add coolant?
Water boiling will be my last concern if I don't add coolant additives.
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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 20 2019, 10:01 AM)
Already came back from service center and at the office now.
They basically just pumped out the excess water i filled and replace it with the coolant.

Apparently there was coolant in it all along and my smartass went and fill water on top of it. LOL
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You mean there was coolant up to the FULL mark but you topped up with tap water till the brim?

Did they drain empty? Do you know if P2 SC uses pre-mixed (no need to add water) or concentrated coolant?
Did you confirm with them Myvi needs coolant flush every 20k?

You may want to monitor the level in the expansion tank to rule out any leakage.
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post Mar 20 2019, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 20 2019, 10:41 AM)
Yes,

I think they just skimmed the coolant tank and replace what's gone with fresh coolant. It's premixed if not mistaken.
You can request for the coolant flush if you want but there's a fee for it, she said we can opt for it but it's not really necessary.
She was surprised that i asked about it, and i told her because some guys on the internet suggested for the procedure. She thought yall were driving the old MYVI, because the new MYVI never needed a flush so far.

I don't think there's any leakage, I've checked under the hood with a flashlight and the flooring of the parking lot where i park my car daily.
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Er, the coolant flushing every 20k was mentioned by you, and I expressed my surprise because I've never heard of cars requiring that every 20k.

Perhaps you got confused when someone suggested coolant flush because you said you only saw colourless water in the tank. As mentioned by cucubud, even if you added water to the expansion tank from "Full" mark to the brim, you will eventually see pink colour, perhaps only slightly lighter, as the total inventory in the radiator and engine is much higher than the amount you could fill from the "Full" mark to the brim.
The expansion tank works this way:
when the engine is hot, water expands and pushes out the expanded coolant into this expansion tank (hence the name), and this causes pink coolant in the radiator to mix with your stuff in the expansion tank.
When the engine cools down, the coolant contracts and sucks in coolant from the expansion tank (otherwise it will suck in air).
Over time, the coolant in the expansion tank will turn pinkish due to this constant mixing.

Since you mentioned the colour is like tap water, that means there is no coolant inside your cooling system, hence the need to drain it down and refill with the proper coolant-water mixture.

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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 20 2019, 12:00 PM)
20k coolant flushing was mentioned by the service rep when i inquire about it because someone brought it up here.

With the fresh coolant inside now, would it not mix with the existing water inside the radiator?
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Assuming your cooling system only had water, and the SC ppl just topped up coolant to your expansion tank,
1. it will be impossible to get the correct mixture because you said they used pre-mixed coolant due to the existing amount of water in the radiator and cooling pocket in the engine.
2. tap water has chemicals which will cause mineral build up on the surface of metals, impeding cooling efficiency in the long run. Just take a look at your kettle and you can see the whitish stuff.

That is why we have pre-mixed coolant where you just pour it neat into the radiator. I guess the manufacturer does not want us to add the wrong water or ratio by eliminating the water addition part.

The question now is, was there only water inside your cooling system?
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It is a good idea to flush at 10k for peace of mind.
Btw, have you checked your user's manual for coolant replacement interval? I'm still wondering why they told you coolant flush is required every 20k.

The nx question is, if coolant changing is only required after > 50k km, will the SC ppl really flush for you when they bill you for the job at 10k? Without knowing the reason for changing, the technician might think this owner is paranoid because coolant at 10k in a new car should be, and looks as good as new.



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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 23 2019, 03:23 PM)
Nope, you can check yours if important.
they didn't say require every 20k, they mentioned it because i mention coolant flush and they instantly thought i was driving the old myvi since i requested it and suspect something wrong with my radiator. It is all very vague to me now.

Well, i don't mind paying a lil bit extra for the flush ... don't really think it'll be expensive or lengthy procedure.
Will just be upfront and tell them i topped in water a few times.

The service representative seems to be very nice and helpful,
I can provide you their location and number if you wanna.
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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 19 2019, 12:56 PM)
Ok guys, i've just called in the service center i visited during my 1k and they said it isn't necessary and i shouldn't be worried.

Apparently using water as a coolant is acceptable for a new car and the radiator coolant flush is done as a routine during your 20k service.
As long as the car is running smoothly they advise to continue what i'm doing and never topup the water above the FULL indicator.
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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 23 2019, 03:44 PM)
@mushigen

This was what i get after my 1k inspection.
Well, it does say I'll be doing my coolants on my 10k next service.

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I'm getting more confused. Now it seems they change coolant at 10k, because this was before you asked them about your no-colour coolant issue.
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QUOTE(tykoh @ Mar 27 2019, 03:32 PM)
hi guys... i just got new myvi last friday...
had anyone had an issue when driving in the afternoon; the center aircon vent (left side) chrome will reflect the sunlight directly to your eyes... this is very annoying and how you all fix this issue?
i was thinking of sticking a CF style sxticker to prevent reflection....
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This is a common issue faced. Stickers will solve the problem.
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QUOTE(dino_rongak @ Mar 29 2019, 08:11 AM)
Another question that I have is, does anyone use the spare tire? Usually after doing alignment & balancing, I would also rotate the tire to make sure the wear is even. Since our spare tire is full size, if we don't use it then sooner or later the tayar will expire and need to replace with new donut, so won't it be wasteful?
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Cars with spare tyre of same size and rim can follow a particular sequence of rotation so that all 5 tyres are used equally. However, I'm not sure how many tyremen know that sequence, so you will have to guide them. So far all the tyre shops I've been to literally "cross" the tyres, rotating in X manner.
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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Mar 29 2019, 09:30 AM)
if keep X-ing only end of the day also lppl?
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Tyres go back to original positions on the next rotation...Maybe it's easier for them to remember. All of them gave me a strange look when I wanted to rotate the proper way (without involving spare tyre).
FR to RR, FL to RL,
RR to FL, RL to FR.
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QUOTE(_jtee @ Mar 29 2019, 10:34 AM)
How often is it recommended to rotate tyres?
Do we just pay labor fee and service charge if that's the case? since random tyre shop will be able to do it.
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Recommended every 10k. I'm not sure about P2, but Honda SC charges customers for balancing and alignment jobs.
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QUOTE(dino_rongak @ Mar 29 2019, 12:32 PM)
This is my usual request when rotating tyre as well  rclxms.gif

I guess I need to learn the 5 tyres rotating sequence now. Otherwise the spare tyre will just gone without even be used.
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Most people will ignore the spare tyres because it's too troublesome to do rotation and I doubt many tyre shop workers know the sequence. You can use it till the four tyres are due for replacement, say, in two years, and then buy 3 tyres of the same model and make use of the spare. One of the old tyres will then be the spare tyre. Problem is whether you can find the same tyre 2-3 years down the road.

You can try this method... can be a little confusing unless you pre-mark the new location on the tyres before reaching the shop. Sometimes they will have two workers working on a car and this is where confusion starts as you'll need to keep an eye on two tyres at the same time.
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QUOTE(dragonspirit @ Apr 3 2019, 02:10 PM)
Interested in the Myvi as a second car.

Drove the Myvi 1.5 H a couple of times and the throttle response during stop start driving seems to be a bit slow, 1-2 seconds to react. This is due to the drive-by-wire gas pedal.

Will the 1.3 G manual have better throttle response?
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Dbw doesn't mean it has to have slow response.

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