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post Jul 10 2018, 07:15 PM

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post Jul 10 2018, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(kingmafia @ Jul 10 2018, 07:11 PM)
Melayukan the chinese and indians.
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post Jul 10 2018, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(iCare @ Jul 10 2018, 06:23 PM)
In vietnam also got Hang. Saw some Champa people with Hang name before. Not surprise actually if we look at the history. indrapura etc.
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Before the collonial people came, the South China Sea were just called Laut Champa, referring to local Champa people

Then they change it on the map for the reason that we don't know, perhaps, the seafarer used to sail to China using the route

I don't know this if it's true, the SCS were just called South Sea back in PRC, never mentioned it was belong to them at the first place

Hang Tuah has curly hair and dark skin, please refer to his birthplace name, something that hardly connected to chinese physical

Well, today the kiasu will said he was chinese, perhaps, after this we can hear the claim that malay people were chinese originated? brows.gif

inb4 semenanjung is a prophecy told of a promised land for.. tongue.gif


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post Jul 10 2018, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(SanAndreas @ Jul 10 2018, 07:17 PM)
Before the collonial people came, the South China Sea were just called Laut Champa, referring to local Champa people

Then they change it on the map for the reason that we don't know, perhaps, the seafarer used to sail to China using the route

I don't know this if it's true, the SCS were just called South Sea back in PRC, never mentioned it was belong to them at the first place

Hang Tuah has curly hair and dark skin, please refer to his birthplace name, something that hardly connected to chinese physical

Well, today the kiasu will said he was chinese, perhaps, after this we can hear the claim that malay people were chinese originated?  brows.gif

inb4 semenanjung is a prophecy told of a promised land for..  tongue.gif
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Yes, I know about the "Laut Champa" on the map. And several "pulo" name (pulau) there.
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post Jul 10 2018, 07:21 PM

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don't forget him.... he also pahlawan.....Panglima Kepit... tongue.gif

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post Jul 10 2018, 07:22 PM

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Masaelahnyer Hang Tuah is just a story and is not real. What ever he\she\it says are null and void. But the real context in the statement is not the language but more on the existence of Melayu as a renown race in the eyes of the world. Kalau melayu asyik hidup dalam gua dan tak berkenalan dengan budaya atau masayarakt asing mana nak dapat pengitirafan.
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post Jul 10 2018, 07:28 PM

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hang tuah is malay/chinese/bangla got problem arh,why want to argue. He's not even proven to exist, just a legend. Might be just a made up story.
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post Jul 10 2018, 07:33 PM

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post Jul 10 2018, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(faizeq @ Jul 10 2018, 07:22 PM)
Masaelahnyer Hang Tuah is just a story and is not real. What ever he\she\it says are null and void.  But the real context in the statement is not the language but more on the existence of Melayu as a renown race in the eyes of the world. Kalau melayu asyik hidup dalam gua dan tak berkenalan dengan budaya atau masayarakt asing mana nak dapat pengitirafan.
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Bharat Ek Khoj - Episode 28 - The Vijayanagar Empire


Scenes


· Domingo Paes arrives at Vijayanagar
· Vijayanagar state and Krishnadev Raya
· Krishnadev Raya gets the throne
· Raya discusses the state's condition with Appaji
· Krishnadev Raya the administrator, Krishnadev Raya's morning routine
· Malaysian traveller Hang Tuah
· Adil Khan's message to Krishnadev Raya
· Krishnadev Raya meets with Father Luise
· Death of Ganga Raya
· Krishnadev Raya's views on good governance
· Krishnadev Raya defeats Adil Khan
· Krishnadev Raya's triumph over Kalinga
· Murder of Father Luise
· Adil Khan's message to Krishnadev Raya
· Coronation of Krishnadev Raya's son
· Death of Krishnadev Raya's son
· Appaji gets punished
· A comment on Vijaynagar dynasty



http://www.refocusindia.com/bharat-ek-khoj...anagar%20Empire







Hang Tuah At Kingdom Of Vijayanagara (Bijaya Nagaram)



Vittala Temple Complex at Hampi Karnataka, India


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Hang Tuah’s own moral awakening comes after he is sent abroad to serve as the emissary of Melaka to India, Turkey, China and even as far as the Byzantine empire. But long before he becomes a globe-trotting man of the world, Hang Tuah’s first visit takes him to India, to visit the kingdom of the ‘Kelings’ (Kalinga) in South India.

The Hikayat Hang Tuah is rich with details about the wonders and riches of the Keling kingdom under the rule of Raja Kisna Rayan. Tuah notes, for instance, that the land of the Kelings is so rich that a single Keling merchant seems to possess more wealth then ten Malay kings. Tuah and his retinue are amazed by the commerce and welfare of the people of Bijaya Nagaram, and the effortless manner with which its King welcomes them into the fold of the court and the royal family.

In the course of their exchanges the Hindu ruler Kisna Rayan and his courtiers express their amazement for Tuah’s ability to converse in the Keling tongue, to which Tuah himself offers an interesting explanation that betrays his own open-minded ecumenicalism :

‘Mendengar sembah Laksamana dengan bahasa Nagaram itu, maka Kisna Rayan dan Bendahara Mangkubumi dan segala raja-raja dan menteri-menteri yang mengadap itu pun hairan terchengang-chengang, kerana melihat Laksamana tahu bahasa Nagaram itu. Maka Kisna Rayan juga gemar melihat laku Laksamana berkata-kata itu dengan bahasa Keling yang faseh lidah-nya dan manis muka-nya, dan dengan merdu suara-nya ; patut ia berkata-kata itu.

Maka titah Kisna Rayan : “ Hai Laksamana, Kau ini Peranakan apa? ”
Maka sembah Laksamana, “ Ya tuanku shah alam, patek ini peranakan Melayu, tapi patek dari kechil-kechil ke-Majapahit, maka patek berlajar mangaji bahasa Keling dari pada sa-orang Lebai; maka oleh itu patek mengerti sedikit bahasa Keling itu. ”








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# Hikayat Hang Tuah






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post Jul 10 2018, 07:47 PM

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Tak silap aku kat dunia ade 2 bangsa M yg mana bangsa tu mmg confirm agama yg dia anuti Islam.

1) Melayu
2) Mongol

Tak tahu betul ke tak.

Tpi kalau betul, fuhh rasa semangat nk pertahankan Islam lagi2 kat Malaysia nie..



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post Jul 10 2018, 08:26 PM

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HANG TUAH MELAWAN SAMURAI JEPUN (RONIN?)




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Berapa lama-nya Laksamana dudok di-benua Siam itu, sa-kali persatua, maka Phra Chau pun bertitah, `Hai Oya Bagelang, mana dia pendekar Jepun yang bernama Chin Chu itu?`Maka sembah Oya Bagelang, `Ada, tuanku, pendekar itu, dari Kemboja datang, terlalu mashhor. Jika sa-puloh, bukan lawan-nya. Maka titah Phra Chau, `Segera panggil pendekar Jepun

Maka titah Phra Chau, `Hai pendekar, engkau aku titahkan bermain pedang dengan utusan Melayu ini.` Maka kata Jepun itu, `Berapa puloh orang Melayu itu? Jika sa-orang dua bukan lawan patek.` Hang Tuah sebagai `Hulubalang Melayu` tiada dapat mendengar kata-kata yang keji di-tengah majlis lalu menyambut cabaran pendekar Jepun dengan berkata: `Cheh! Hendak berdusta pula. Bicara kamu ini empat lima berdiri pun tiada endah padaku!

Maka pendekar Jepun itu pun turun ka-tanah menghunus pedangnya serta dengan amarah-nya, beberapa dilarang oleh hulubalang Siam tiada di-dengarnya. Phra Chau ( Raja Siam) sendiri lalu larang-nya . Maka ia pun berseru2, katanya, `Hai Melayu, turun-lah engkau! Jika tiada turun supaya ku-naiki balairong ku-tendas kepala-mu.

Maka kata Laksamana, `Hai si-Kafir yang keras hati-mu, apa engkau hendak perbuat, perbuat-lah oleh-mu.` Sa-telah pendekar itu melihat Laksamana sudah turun, maka segera di-parang-nya. Maka Laksamana pun melompat hendak menangkis parang-nya itu, kerana (pendekar Jepun) memarang dengan dua belah tangan-nya. Sa-telah lalu, di-parang pendekar itu, maka di-parangnya oleh Laksamana telinga-nya, putus terpelanting ka-tanah maka Laksamana pun segera melompat naik ka-atas balairong itu. Maka orang pun hairan pantas Laksamana itu. Sa-telah pendekar itu melihat telinga-nya putus itu, makin bertambah marah-nya dan malu-nya lalu di-usirnya akan Laksamana hendak naik ka-balairong itu. Maka Laksamana pun segera terjun di-atas balai berhadapan dengan Jepun itu pula.

Maka di-parang oleh Jepun itu, di-salah-nya (dielak) oleh Laksamana, serta di-parang-nya hidung pendekar itu, putus. Maka Laksamana melompat naik ka-atas balairong itu pula. Maka di-rasa-nya oleh pendekar itu hidong-nya putus, maka lalu di-usir-nya, maka hendak di-naiki ka-balairong itu. Maka Laksamana pun terjun pula berhadapan dengan jepun itu, lalu di-parang-nya Jepun, bahu-nya pun putus gugor ka-tanah. Maka jepun itu pun mengusir pula dengan bersunggoh2 hati-nya, maka diparang pula oleh Laksamana kepala-nya belah dua…


(Petikan daripada Hikayat Hang Tuah, mukasurat 391)




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AKu pelik la, sejarah2 hero2 orang lain elok je rekod. Sejarah melayu kita ni memang orang dulu malas nak rekod ke? semua pass dari mulut ke mulut sampai satu tahap kesahihan cerita tu macam tak betul. Even kalau ada orang rekod pun secebis2, ke memang dulu ada rekod bila portuguese datang dia ambik semua rekod?
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flying dragon sabre somehow they putar till become keris terbang
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tapi tommy tak pandai berbahasa melayu

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