Everyone, need all your help urgently !!!
Another e-hailing driver was found dead in his car.

https://www.hmetro.com.my/utama/2018/06/351...ab-maut-dibunuh
https://www.nst.com.my/news/crime-courts/20...rre-upside-down
http://www.chinapress.com.my/?p=1282210
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...tn__=%2As%2As-R

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This post has been edited by donmancini: Jun 24 2018, 11:00 PM

Okay.. checked and updated all the links..

Please help click and sign the petition yeah...



This post has been edited by donmancini: Jun 24 2018, 04:57 PM

What do u mean by “another”?

last year there is a murder case on Grab driver in philippines

if the situation was reversed, there'd be a nationwide angry call for all drivers to be screened, mentally checked, keyboard warriors would call for ban and boycott of grab, ministers would come out and condemn, taxi drivers will again call for ban, SPAD will claim new measures will be taken to improve rider's safety bla bla bla...

yup pretty much it

goes 2 show driver = kuli psgr = king

If Grab is looking at this, please look at your "marvellous" apps, in rider app there is SOS button, but when goes into driver apps, there is no SOS button.

Driver have to press drop off, confirm amount and proceed, then only got PDRM function there, by that time driver already in coffin. Where the hell is the SOS button available for driver?

Is it every time Grab has to wait shit hit the fans then only implement something?

Every time driver or GDMA told u all something or providing solid feedback, Grab management just implement some and tend to ignore those critical issue, this is the consequences of Crap style.

yeah , to think of GRAB monopoly everything here but only so little provided back to their driver is such a sad sad story... i wish there is other provider can compete with Grab on same par or better so at least the benefit can be share to all

any new lead on this murder grab driver case? please share .. tq

Driver can always quit if feels that being a driver is kuli n passemgers are like kings.

Whats the hardship of the riders that drivers dont know?

What if female kena rape?

Consequence - whole nation want his head and cook curry

What if driver suddenly dead?

Consequence - nothing as of today

See that difference!🤔🤔

Life insurance for all grab driver

Female kena rape? U mean female driver? If too concern, can change to drive taxi if that makes any different.

Crimes are everywhere be it you are a grab driver or just a normal person jogging in the park. It happens because of the criminals the country have. If we have good governance n system in work to prevent the crimes, then it will be a better country to live.

Why people make a rage if a passenger is being rape or kill? Arent we are also the group that making the huu haa? Or only grab drivers wont make any noice about it?

i think what is most upsetting to drivers is that current 'law' and rules are one-sided. everyone from public, authority, ministry and Grab themselves are more concerned about Riders' safety.
no one talked about implementing anything for Driver's safety AND still no one is talking about it.

and this doesn't only applies to e-hailing drivers. i've had a female taxi driver (NO OFFENCE, she's not pretty at all, mother of 3 and easily weighs 80kg) in my car before and she told she's been sexually harassed by passengers before. so much so she actually kept a knife in the car and she now refused to allow passenger to sit in front.

there needs to be a fair line between rider's and driver's safety. each driver is thoroughly registered. SOS button. send ride details to family/friends etc. many system in place to make them feel safe.

but nothing for driver. we don't know anything about the person we're picking up! most time, we can't even tell if its a male or female. ma pren or bangla!

Myself being a rider also sometimes worry the grab driver turn out to be robbers. Even got message stating grab car number n drivers name sent to me after a grab car has been allocated. Shall i prejudice that driver based on name, race, gender to judge that driver is a nice one? Its hard as we never know. I took grab often in the mid night n travel long distance, sometimes also feel scare that something might happen.

This post has been edited by Tigerr: Jun 25 2018, 05:32 PM

Rider has all the driver details and able to share the ride details to your family members or friend, u think Grab driver would like to commit crime during the ride? It would be stupid for the driver for leaving so many trace behind.

The last Grab driver rape case, polis able to detain the suspect within 24 hrs, now with this murder case, after 24 hrs polis still unable to trace the suspect. See the difference between this 2 case?

When crime happened. Its not about driver smart or not. Rider hail a car. Knows the driver. Then rider get rob n rape n killed. Police nap the driver n send him to jail for life. What safety or benefit does the rider has? Ya...u rape n kill me, i laugh at you from heaven/hell...

There is a emergency button at rider apps, i can assure u driver apps do not have this function.

Yes there is an 'emergency' button in the driver app but 1st u need to convince the perpetrator to let u:

1. Press drop off button.
2. Wait for feedback from a crappy server until u see the fare/others editing screen.
3. Press the bottom button a few more times until u see the last complete button.
4. Wait again until u see a red/green face window.
5. Close the window and then click on the hamburger menu.
6. Select pdrm option and u now see a list of phone number to the police station.
7. Click on the nearest police station to open a dialing screen.
8. Now u can start making an emergency call.
9. Feel free to explain the situation to the police officer when a knife is hanging on your throat.

How thoughtful, isnt it?

This post has been edited by S3phiroth: Jun 25 2018, 06:21 PM

Its a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation isn't it?

regardless rider or driver who robbed/rape/kill another, the victim, is the victim whatever punishment the culprit gets. a person raped or killed will never ever get the justice he/she deserved.

but then again, you are missing a critical point. what we're saying is, as a rider, you have all the means to track the driver who committed crime. rider knows this, driver also knows this. What we're all saying is, no person with sane mind will actually plan a crime knowing his/her track are well recorded and easily traceable. When a person commits a crime, he/she will definitely wish to get away with it. As a e-hailing driver, we all know we CAN'T get away with it simply becos within a few minutes, Grab is able to pull down your data which include IC photo, address, IC number, phone number, Car plate, Car type etc etc. Within next hour or so, police will be at your door front knocking.

knowing this as a fact, drivers will not have the balls to actually commit any crimes or any hanky-panky stuff. most drivers even afraid of getting banned for driving for few days! let alone commit a crime!

if u book a grabcar (not grabshare), the grab car comes with 2 person inside. will u as a rider still get in the car? i believe after what happened to the poor pregnant lady who suffered miscarriage last year after being robbed by an idiotic uber driver who was carrying another person, you wouldn't get in the car too. you will maybe call grab CS and file a report and at the very least, cancel the ride. what u got to lose right? just book another ride lur..

BUT....for a driver. u got a ping in some housing area...u waited for your rider to show...he showed up, a 6.5ft 200lb tall ma pren...while he's getting in, 3 more of his friends jump in back seat. Can driver say no? and cancel the ride? it'll be a little racist to cancel for no reason. grabcar clearly says its for 1-4 passenger. rider didn't do anything wrong upto that point. so how?

as a rider, you can monitor driver's route, which way he/she taking. whether its the right direction. u can double check with ur waze on your own phone if driver is taking the correct way. the minute u notice driver is purposely driving wrong way, u can hit the SOS button, call ur friends, call police whatever.

as a driver, we can see where we're going, but not 100% of the time. some times, the destination says some taman name, or street name. we can't be familiar with all roads and taman. say i'm from cheras, get a ping to go somewhere in Klang. fare is RM60 of course u accept la. on the way there, towards destination, u suddenly notice the road getting narrower and narrower, the destination ur heading getting more and more remote. again, driver's can't just stopped the car and tell the rider to get off becos we feel worried.

at the destination, rider might alight and leave us with RM5 tips and say thank u.

or at destination, 3-4 more guys there waiting to rob us

what we're asking for is not exactly a fool-proof mechanism to protect driver. but at least something must be there. (currently there's none)

as riders, you understand you're getting into a stranger's car. you're taking a calculated risk while paying min fare enjoying a personalized ride.
we as driver, also understand the risk of accepting a complete stranger (sometimes upto 4 strangers at a time) into our own cars, we take the risk while earning min wages.
its a mutual business transaction, so be fair to both. that's all we're asking.

Either one also same haha

Hahahaha well said

If they can implement X button on ping which will still affect AR why cant they implement SOS button on job card

Oh crap

By the time u finish all the step, i think u are in heaven/hell, how thoughtful of Crap.

Just practise alertness as you are accepting a job similar to taxi drivers from the start, you may have heard many taxi drivers got rob or killed not there may not be any difference to grab drivers. Plan robbery is hard to prevent whether you got riders registered. Rider may register false identity n who is there to verify each riders?
Grab scare riders turn away n hence less revenue n similarly grab drivers also worry if less riders too as this will directly affecting your rice bowls. Give n take n take every precaution u need to even to decline the riders if u feel unsafe n not to concern or worry your ratings or reputation because your life is at stake.

U still don't understand how Grab system works, if we cancelled too much, there is penalty for the driver regardless how solid your explanation.

Once u try out then u will understand on driver's perspective.

You must understand that life is more precious than work. Without life give u 100% beautiful rating also no use.

No 100% solution ler... just like banks... they try very hard.. still kena rob.
But the measures taken are deterrents... so we need to pressure grab for some form of deterrent lo... now almost zero... ziltch.... untraceable...

When you know all personal data is easily obtain by police you will thinks twice before commenting crime. When you are anonymous, it can be anything. Example creating dupe in LYN

Haha true

This is true to some extent. Majority of the riders whether anonymous or not, they are not killer or robbers. A planned or impromptu robberies can happned anytime. Example, road bullies, they knowing that their act n action being recorded, some will still whack u with sterling lock or smash your car.

latest update on the case



https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/431358

I understand your point, but my point is by properly register passanger id it may reduce chances of crime.

Expample: a thief won't steal if his id is known in advance.

3 days after this incident and yet top management of grab did not contact the victim's family member. That alone show how good this Company.


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Our motto: cut off one driver, two more will take its place.

So yes. We dont give a shit.

see
the power of monopoly in action yall

hail hydra .. oppss..
hail (using) grab

ps: sound like cap.america film

Ouch then

Mgmt told us they did contact the family member last Saturday.Don't understand why different story from the family member.

i dont trat crapcar is my partner or employer

i think the relationship is very simple, i need it because i need extra income

and sohai crap dont expect me to do extra

those who expect crapcar will help u when bad thing occurs, please think twice.

dont risk your self such as traffic offense even though urge by crap rider such as illegal u turn, more than 5 ppl etc... no one will pity u...

the one who call himself our partner is the conman and most sucks....

he can ban u with this

Haha well said

Bottom line is dont risk it just for RM5 or RM50 fare

I bang moto once when i rushing 2 pick up RM50 fare

End up off the court settle RM300 due traffic light accident

It was beginning of this year

Lucky moto pillon small scratch and i myself were uninjured

If any rider ask me 2 come faster i will straight away cancel

I not afraid of CR because i can AR 30+ trips daily haha

still no announcement? investigate so many days?

This is malaysia what 2 expect

i think last night got news saying this under robbery... but with soo many suspect to begin with.. it might take a bit while for the judge to slam the hammer of judgement

Yo guys...any grab watsapp group for lyn kaki?