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skylinelover
post Jun 25 2018, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jun 25 2018, 01:40 PM)
Female kena rape? U mean female driver? If too concern, can change to drive taxi if that makes any different.

Crimes are everywhere be it you are a grab driver or just a normal person jogging in the park. It happens because of the criminals the country have. If we have good governance n system in work to prevent the crimes, then it will be a better country to live.

Why people make a rage if a passenger is being rape or kill? Arent we are also the group that making the huu haa? Or only grab drivers wont make any noice about it? tongue.gif
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Either one also same haha laugh.gif

QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Jun 25 2018, 06:13 PM)
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Yes there is an 'emergency' button in the driver app but 1st u need to convince the perpetrator to let u:

1. Press drop off button.
2. Wait for feedback from a crappy server until u see the fare/others editing screen.
3. Press the bottom button a few more times until u see the last complete button.
4. Wait again until u see a red/green face window.
5. Close the window and then click on the hamburger menu.
6. Select pdrm option and u now see a list of phone number to the police station.
7. Click on the nearest police station to open a dialing screen.
8. Now u can start making an emergency call.
9. Feel free to explain the situation to the police officer when a knife is hanging on your throat.

How thoughtful, isnt it?
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Hahahaha well said doh.gif

If they can implement X button on ping which will still affect AR why cant they implement SOS button on job card

Oh crap rclxub.gif
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post Jun 25 2018, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Jun 25 2018, 06:13 PM)
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Yes there is an 'emergency' button in the driver app but 1st u need to convince the perpetrator to let u:

1. Press drop off button.
2. Wait for feedback from a crappy server until u see the fare/others editing screen.
3. Press the bottom button a few more times until u see the last complete button.
4. Wait again until u see a red/green face window.
5. Close the window and then click on the hamburger menu.
6. Select pdrm option and u now see a list of phone number to the police station.
7. Click on the nearest police station to open a dialing screen.
8. Now u can start making an emergency call.
9. Feel free to explain the situation to the police officer when a knife is hanging on your throat.

How thoughtful, isnt it?
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By the time u finish all the step, i think u are in heaven/hell, how thoughtful of Crap. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jun 25 2018, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(wa1k3r @ Jun 25 2018, 07:01 PM)
Its a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation isn't it?

regardless rider or driver who robbed/rape/kill another, the victim, is the victim whatever punishment the culprit gets. a person raped or killed will never ever get the justice he/she deserved.

but then again, you are missing a critical point.  what we're saying is, as a rider, you have all the means to track the driver who committed crime.  rider knows this, driver also knows this.  What we're all saying is, no person with sane mind will actually plan a crime knowing his/her track are well recorded and easily traceable.  When a person commits a crime, he/she will definitely wish to get away with it.  As a e-hailing driver, we all know we CAN'T get away with it simply becos within a few minutes, Grab is able to pull down your data which include IC photo, address, IC number, phone number, Car plate, Car type etc etc. Within next hour or so, police will be at your door front knocking.

knowing this as a fact, drivers will not have the balls to actually commit any crimes or any hanky-panky stuff. most drivers even afraid of getting banned for driving for few days! let alone commit a crime!

if u book a grabcar (not grabshare), the grab car comes with 2 person inside.  will u as a rider still get in the car? i believe after what happened to the poor pregnant lady who suffered miscarriage last year after being robbed by an idiotic uber driver who was carrying another person, you wouldn't get in the car too. you will maybe call grab CS and file a report and at the very least, cancel the ride. what u got to lose right? just book another ride lur..

BUT....for a driver. u got a ping in some housing area...u waited for your rider to show...he showed up, a 6.5ft 200lb tall ma pren...while he's getting in, 3 more of his friends jump in back seat.  Can driver say no? and cancel the ride? it'll be a little racist to cancel for no reason. grabcar clearly says its for 1-4 passenger. rider didn't do anything wrong upto that point. so how?

as a rider, you can monitor driver's route, which way he/she taking. whether its the right direction. u can double check with ur waze on your own phone if driver is taking the correct way.  the minute u notice driver is purposely driving wrong way, u can hit the SOS button, call ur friends, call police whatever.

as a driver, we can see where we're going, but not 100% of the time.  some times, the destination says some taman name, or street name. we can't be familiar with all roads and taman. say i'm from cheras, get a ping to go somewhere in Klang.  fare is RM60  shocking.gif of course u accept la.  on the way there, towards destination, u suddenly notice the road getting narrower and narrower, the destination ur heading getting more and more remote.  again, driver's can't just stopped the car and tell the rider to get off becos we feel worried.

at the destination, rider might alight and leave us with RM5 tips and say thank u.

or at destination, 3-4 more guys there waiting to rob us  shocking.gif

what we're asking for is not exactly a fool-proof mechanism to protect driver. but at least something must be there. (currently there's none)

as riders, you understand you're getting into a stranger's car. you're taking a calculated risk while paying min fare enjoying a personalized ride.
we as driver, also understand the risk of accepting a complete stranger (sometimes upto 4 strangers at a time) into our own cars, we take the risk while earning min wages.
its a mutual business transaction, so be fair to both. that's all we're asking.
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Just practise alertness as you are accepting a job similar to taxi drivers from the start, you may have heard many taxi drivers got rob or killed not there may not be any difference to grab drivers. Plan robbery is hard to prevent whether you got riders registered. Rider may register false identity n who is there to verify each riders?
Grab scare riders turn away n hence less revenue n similarly grab drivers also worry if less riders too as this will directly affecting your rice bowls. Give n take n take every precaution u need to even to decline the riders if u feel unsafe n not to concern or worry your ratings or reputation because your life is at stake.

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post Jun 26 2018, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jun 25 2018, 10:42 PM)
Just practise alertness as you are accepting a job similar to taxi drivers  from the start, you may have heard many taxi drivers got rob or killed not there may not be any difference to grab drivers. Plan robbery is hard to prevent whether you got riders registered. Rider may register false identity n who is there to verify each riders?
Grab scare riders turn away n hence less revenue n similarly grab drivers also worry if less riders too as this will directly affecting your rice bowls. Give n take n take every precaution u need to even to decline the riders if u feel unsafe n not to concern or worry your ratings or reputation because your life is at stake.
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U still don't understand how Grab system works, if we cancelled too much, there is penalty for the driver regardless how solid your explanation.

Once u try out then u will understand on driver's perspective.
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post Jun 26 2018, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2018, 09:33 AM)
U still don't understand how Grab system works, if we cancelled too much, there is penalty for the driver regardless how solid your explanation.

Once u try out then u will understand on driver's perspective.
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post Jun 26 2018, 12:06 PM

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No 100% solution ler... just like banks... they try very hard.. still kena rob.
But the measures taken are deterrents... so we need to pressure grab for some form of deterrent lo... now almost zero... ziltch.... untraceable...

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post Jun 26 2018, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jun 25 2018, 05:45 PM)
When crime happened. Its not about driver smart or not. Rider hail a car. Knows the driver. Then rider get rob n rape n killed. Police nap the driver n send him to jail for life. What safety or benefit does the rider has? Ya...u rape n kill me, i laugh at you from heaven/hell...tongue.gif
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When you know all personal data is easily obtain by police you will thinks twice before commenting crime. When you are anonymous, it can be anything. Example creating dupe in LYN
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post Jun 26 2018, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(donmancini @ Jun 26 2018, 12:06 PM)
No 100% solution ler... just like banks... they try very hard.. still kena rob.
But the measures taken are deterrents... so we need to pressure grab for some form of deterrent lo... now almost zero... ziltch.... untraceable...
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Haha true bruce.gif bruce.gif
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post Jun 26 2018, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Tariq_H @ Jun 26 2018, 12:17 PM)
When you know all personal data is easily obtain by police you will thinks twice before commenting crime. When you are anonymous, it can be anything. Example creating dupe in LYN
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This is true to some extent. Majority of the riders whether anonymous or not, they are not killer or robbers. A planned or impromptu robberies can happned anytime. Example, road bullies, they knowing that their act n action being recorded, some will still whack u with sterling lock or smash your car.
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post Jun 26 2018, 03:21 PM

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The police have arrested a Myanmar man and a woman over the murder of a Grab driver in Selayang last Saturday.

Gombak police deputy chief Supt Tey Kong Seng said today the man, in his 20s, and the woman, in her 30s, were picked up in the Selayang area about 1am today.

“The duo were arrested to assist in the investigation into the killing,” he said when contacted by Bernama.

The Grab driver, Aiman Nosri, 27, was found dead with strangulation marks in his Perodua Myvi car at 8.20pm last Saturday in Taman Selayang Makmur.


https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/431358
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post Jun 26 2018, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jun 26 2018, 02:18 PM)
This is true to some extent. Majority of the riders whether anonymous or not, they are not killer or robbers. A planned or impromptu robberies can happned anytime. Example, road bullies, they knowing that their act n action being recorded, some will still whack u with sterling lock or smash your car.
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I understand your point, but my point is by properly register passanger id it may reduce chances of crime.

Expample: a thief won't steal if his id is known in advance.
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post Jun 26 2018, 08:44 PM

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3 days after this incident and yet top management of grab did not contact the victim's family member. That alone show how good this Company.


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post Jun 27 2018, 06:12 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2018, 08:44 PM)
3 days after this incident and yet top management of grab did not contact the victim's family member. That alone show how good this Company.
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Our motto: cut off one driver, two more will take its place.

So yes. We dont give a shit.
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post Jun 27 2018, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Jun 27 2018, 06:12 AM)
Our motto: cut off one driver, two more will take its place.

So yes. We dont give a shit.
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post Jun 27 2018, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2018, 08:44 PM)
3 days after this incident and yet top management of grab did not contact the victim's family member. That alone show how good this Company.
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Mgmt told us they did contact the family member last Saturday.Don't understand why different story from the family member.
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post Jun 30 2018, 06:59 AM

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i dont trat crapcar is my partner or employer

i think the relationship is very simple, i need it because i need extra income

and sohai crap dont expect me to do extra

those who expect crapcar will help u when bad thing occurs, please think twice.

dont risk your self such as traffic offense even though urge by crap rider such as illegal u turn, more than 5 ppl etc... no one will pity u...

the one who call himself our partner is the conman and most sucks....

he can ban u with this
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post Jun 30 2018, 07:51 AM

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Haha well said

Bottom line is dont risk it just for RM5 or RM50 fare

I bang moto once when i rushing 2 pick up RM50 fare

End up off the court settle RM300 due traffic light accident

It was beginning of this year

Lucky moto pillon small scratch and i myself were uninjured

If any rider ask me 2 come faster i will straight away cancel

I not afraid of CR because i can AR 30+ trips daily haha
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still no announcement? investigate so many days?
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post Jun 30 2018, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(bryan_x00 @ Jun 30 2018, 09:20 AM)
still no announcement? investigate so many days?
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