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rapple
post Jun 20 2018, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 20 2018, 03:36 PM)
Bro ah, forget about your own complicated calculation cos u got it all wrong!
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Which is wrong?
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post Jun 20 2018, 04:18 PM

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Anybody here mind to share that 2 scenarios calculation / formula?
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post Jun 20 2018, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ Jun 20 2018, 04:00 PM)
Which is wrong?
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See fun feng answer. The car loan yield 5.57% is higher than FD.
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post Jun 20 2018, 04:32 PM

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Always use effective rate to compare, not flat rate.

Car loan/term loan use flat rate interest to quote and calculate, it is not an effective/real rate (EIR) to start with.
eg.

100K 5 years 3%.
Total interest would be 15K, means 3K each year.

The problem is not the 1st year, but later year.
After paying off for 4 years, you left with outstanding of principal balance of 20K,
But interest still 3K pa.

3K/20K = 15% <---- see where bank makes the most money from.

One is paying 15% interest rate without knowing...

EIR is the figure the average out (as first year it is really 3%) and real interest rate one is paying.
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post Jun 20 2018, 04:46 PM

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The calculation I did in my previous post, shows exactly how much interest is paid to the bank yearly.

If you wanna believe bank take interest evenly every year then be my guest.

I have done early settlement before so I’m sure it’s quite accurate.

Cheers.
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post Jun 20 2018, 09:11 PM

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To understand easier,
imagine

3% FD vs 3% P2P investment

P2P has a higher EIR, therefore bigger amount, compared to FD
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post Jun 20 2018, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jun 20 2018, 09:11 PM)
To understand easier,
imagine

3% FD vs 3% P2P investment

P2P has a higher EIR, therefore bigger amount, compared to FD
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Can't understand man...
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post Jun 21 2018, 01:51 AM

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post Jun 22 2018, 10:45 AM

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Conclusion

If FD and Car Loan rate same

Use loan for the car and keep the cash inside the FD

Often if buy new car, the Loan Interest Rate is lower than FD rate. Hence, read back the sentence above.
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post Jun 22 2018, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jun 22 2018, 10:45 AM)
Conclusion

If FD and Car Loan rate same

Use loan for the car and keep the cash inside the FD

Often if buy new car, the Loan Interest Rate is lower than FD rate. Hence, read back the sentence above.
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Hence, this is the conclusion when the blind leads the blind. Always remember that banks must earn higher than they pay. Hence, car loan effective rate is higher than FD.
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post Jun 22 2018, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 22 2018, 03:48 PM)
Hence, this is the conclusion when the blind leads the blind. Always remember that banks must earn higher than they pay. Hence, car loan effective rate is higher than FD.
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Do you maths and prove me wrong
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post Jun 22 2018, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 22 2018, 03:48 PM)
Hence, this is the conclusion when the blind leads the blind. Always remember that banks must earn higher than they pay. Hence, car loan effective rate is higher than FD.
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post# 24 has the maths for those that needs it....

else google has many too
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post Jun 22 2018, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jun 22 2018, 03:59 PM)
Do you maths and prove me wrong
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Read the thread...read what Cherroy posted...just apply the conversion template in Loan street ....converting 3% to effective rate will get u about 5.57%? So, 5.57% is higher than FD rate .
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post Jun 22 2018, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 20 2018, 04:32 PM)
Always use effective rate to compare, not flat rate.

Car loan/term loan use flat rate interest to quote and calculate, it is not an effective/real rate (EIR) to start with.
eg.

100K 5 years 3%.
Total interest would be 15K, means 3K each year.

The problem is not the 1st year, but later year.
After paying off  for 4 years, you left with outstanding of principal balance of 20K,
But interest still 3K pa.

3K/20K = 15% <---- see where bank makes the most money from.

One is paying 15% interest rate without knowing...

EIR is the figure the average out (as first year it is really 3%) and real interest rate one is paying.
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This is actually the accurate answer. EFFECTIVE RATE is the one we should look at. Not the flat rate.
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post Jun 22 2018, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ Jun 20 2018, 01:46 PM)
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The yearly effective interest rate based on 3% FD and 3% car loan interest.

*To break even the finance cost for a 7 year loan, one will need at least 6.5 years of time in FD placement.
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i calculated TS's 3% HP rate is equivalent to 5.64% EIR for a 5 year tenure at 50k loan amount
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post Jun 22 2018, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 22 2018, 04:09 PM)
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post# 24 has the maths for those that needs it....

else google has many too
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Many people are delusional and self absorbed. Just because they manage to create a table to prove their point means they r 100% absolutely right. They never think that they get the ingredients wrong and hence, the end product is wrong 😅
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post Jun 22 2018, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jun 22 2018, 04:12 PM)
This is actually the accurate answer. EFFECTIVE RATE is the one we should look at. Not the flat rate.
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post Jun 22 2018, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 22 2018, 04:16 PM)
+1.
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If DP can gives more than personal loan/car loan...then bank rugi liao. Bank will never ever do rugi business. If things are too good to be true, usually it's not true laugh.gif

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post Jun 22 2018, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jun 22 2018, 04:17 PM)
If DP can gives more than personal loan/car loan...then bank rugi liao. Bank will never ever do rugi business. If things are too good to be true, usually it's not true laugh.gif
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Correct la.. bank's business is cranking % and u think they are fools meh? They take your FD and loan you cheaper? Lolz...
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post Jun 22 2018, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jun 22 2018, 04:17 PM)
If DP can gives more than personal loan/car loan...then bank rugi liao. Bank will never ever do rugi business. If things are too good to be true, usually it's not true laugh.gif
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The table shows how much interest we paid to the bank yearly.

We are paying more interest to them in the early cycle of the loan and pay lesser in the later stage. That's why if one, want to do an early settlement of the HP loan will be surprise to see there's still so much principal owing to the bank despite already paying half the loan tenure.

You are only able to earn money only if the FD is place there for the same tenure as the HP loan without uplifting it.

Simply said, the bank earn your money NOW while you have to wait 7 years later to earns yours.

This post has been edited by rapple: Jun 22 2018, 04:38 PM

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