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rapple
post Jun 20 2018, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 20 2018, 10:07 AM)
Like that how the bank make money oh? They pay u FD interest and earn lower interest from car loan?
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Because bank uses rule of 78, we pay a large portion of the interest during the early loan cycle.

Total FD interest received (assume is 4%) will be more than the total interest paid (3%) but it will only realized towards the end of the loan cycle because of the above.

Example: 3% FD vs 3% Car Loan
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post Jun 20 2018, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Jun 20 2018, 01:39 PM)
How you get RM62989.57 in scenario 2?? I got RM69895.20 through https://financialmentor.com/calculator/comp...rest-calculator

You already calculated the loan as 5.57 effective interest rate, which means the loan cost more than the earnings through FD..

Therefore of course it is better to pay the car using cash
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The yearly effective interest rate based on 3% FD and 3% car loan interest.

*To break even the finance cost for a 7 year loan, one will need at least 6.5 years of time in FD placement.




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post Jun 20 2018, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Jun 20 2018, 02:04 PM)
Yes I understand.
I'm just saying your calculation for scenario 2 is wrong.. It should have more money than scenario 1

https://financialmentor.com/calculator/comp...rest-calculator
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Sorry I don't understand..
We are using 50k principal and 4%FD vs 3%loan example
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The point is effective interest rate will go lower every year and not just 5.57% as you mention earlier.

I used 3% on both FD interest and car loan interest to prevent people asking "what if FD rate doesn't give 4% anymore".

Whether is 10k or 50k as principal, the compounding interest shows a positive net return over the 7 years loan.

*To break even the finance cost for a 7 year loan, one will need at least 6.5 years of time in FD placement.
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post Jun 20 2018, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 20 2018, 03:36 PM)
Bro ah, forget about your own complicated calculation cos u got it all wrong!
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Which is wrong?
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post Jun 20 2018, 04:46 PM

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The calculation I did in my previous post, shows exactly how much interest is paid to the bank yearly.

If you wanna believe bank take interest evenly every year then be my guest.

I have done early settlement before so I’m sure it’s quite accurate.

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post Jun 22 2018, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jun 22 2018, 04:17 PM)
If DP can gives more than personal loan/car loan...then bank rugi liao. Bank will never ever do rugi business. If things are too good to be true, usually it's not true laugh.gif
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The table shows how much interest we paid to the bank yearly.

We are paying more interest to them in the early cycle of the loan and pay lesser in the later stage. That's why if one, want to do an early settlement of the HP loan will be surprise to see there's still so much principal owing to the bank despite already paying half the loan tenure.

You are only able to earn money only if the FD is place there for the same tenure as the HP loan without uplifting it.

Simply said, the bank earn your money NOW while you have to wait 7 years later to earns yours.

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post Jun 22 2018, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jun 22 2018, 04:35 PM)
RM100k Loan, 3% P.A, 5 Years

Interest RM3k P.A, over 5 Years is RM15k

Effective Interest Rate is 15%

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RM100k cash put in FD, 4% P.A, 5 Years

Y1 Interest RM4,000 - Assuming you do not touch it since assume you buy car and cannot touch it. Compound Interest
Y2 Interest RM4,160
Y3 Interest RM4,326.40
Y4 Interest RM4,499.46
Y5 Interest RM4,679.43

Total Interest RM21,665.29

Effective Interest Rate 21.67%

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Nowadays FD is easily 4% and above with 1 Year Tenure and could be more if you have RM100k.
So? Post #24 only shows EFFECTIVE INTEREST RATE for the Flat Interest Rate (P.A). Question is why buy cash when you can loan?
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Because they don’t like paying interest to the banks.

If one is so piss off by bank earning your money, then don’t put money in the banks. They are using your money to loan to us to generate more income.

Be like Najib, keep in the house. tongue.gif
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post Jun 23 2018, 09:45 AM

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Scenario 1 ~ Without factoring his active income and taking the 5 year loan, the FD draw down to pay the monthly loan it's not going to be enough and it will be in negative of RM5,362.

Scenario 2 ~ Without factoring his active income again by paying cash 100k. You have a fully paid car but no FD interest received because you are assume to have no active income and to make this a fair comparison.

And how many of you would buy a car without an active income.

The actual interest paid to the bank for that year will be my effective rate and this is the only thing I need to know. By knowing this, I could finalized my client accounts and subsequently ask them to pay my fees to cover my cost of interest.

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