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Joseph Hahn
post Nov 1 2018, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Yasmine_isha18 @ Oct 30 2018, 10:41 AM)
In terms of d price, not much difference since senheng is doing a promo of Samsung 49" NU7100 for RM1699(with 450 pts) only and Lazada selling LG 49" UK6300 with magic remote and bracket for RM1839. Again. I can't decide which is d best for me!!! 😭😭
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I just got the LG TV from that particular seller. Arrived so fast. As for the TV, i think it's great. The RGBW or "fake 4K" as some call it is overblown. I mean, my phone also has RGBW pixels and it's not noticeable at all. For that price, it's unbeatable. I'm not really a TV person before this but now Netflix has sucked me in the Korean Drama trap. Help.

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post Nov 14 2018, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Nov 14 2018, 09:17 AM)
Lg is good too, samsung mainly because of its oled tech.
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LG makes great OLED TVs too. Reviewers seems to love them. But can't afford haha...

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post Nov 22 2018, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 21 2018, 07:39 PM)
There is a lot of misconception there .

All of them are RGB TV ,  with the exception of LG 's  UK6100 & UK6300 .
The Panasonic TV doesn't has 6 different color subpixels , and it certainly does not reproduce colors using 6 different subpixels.
The  " Hexa Chroma Drive " is actually what Panasonic calls their CMS ( Color Management System ) , which allows TV users to finetune the colors reproduction to more accurate extends . 

If you don't calibrate your TV , it is nothing more than a marketing term for you , because you will be using their out of box settings.
Like I said before , a side by side comparison in the display shop is potentially pointless , because you need to make sure every TV in comparison are calibrated to the same settings .
It is possible the specific unit you are comparing are in its more accurate display mode , compare to the rest .

There is also the factor of Panel Variance , because these LCD TV are the general product of mass production.  Unless they are sending you the exact same TV they showed you in the shop ,  what you saw from the shop may not be what you will be watching in your home .  Even among the same model , one may be slightly brighter than another , slightly better screen uniformity , slightly more accurate colors etc etc ... you get my point.
I don't think Panasonic did anything special for their VIERA series . They do finetune their OLED TVs before shipping out , because they are selling those exquisite premium babies at a much higher price .
It is unlikely they are going to calibrate their entry level 4K TVs , at least not to the same degree as they do with their OLEDS which has garnered many praises for being uber color-accurate.
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A-freaking-men. Shops just want to show eye popping blinding colors to you. That's why the TVs have shop and home mode no? Most people are usually victims to fancy marketing terms. laugh.gif

I'm pretty new to TV as i just use PC mostly before. So i got the LG 49" UK6300 which fits my small budget. Frankly to my eyes, i don't really notice the color being washed out or loss of sharpness. Maybe because i'm actually using it as a TV instead of sitting 1cm from it. I just followed calibration from rtings.com and it looks good to me. No more skin looking like they are being burned by the sun. Decent HDR performance too especially in colorful scenes. Dark post apocalyptic drama on Netflix with HDR don't really pop as much as the Chef show. I can't really compare between my IPS RGBW & VA RGB Samsung 43" NU7100 that my bro bought (which costs more than my 49") for my dad back at my kampung unless i put it side by side. Too bad that 5 months later, i noticed there's light bleeding from the top edge of the Samsung in dark scenes. Bad luck i guess.
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post Dec 10 2018, 03:40 PM

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Sorry to hear that but really depends on your luck i guess. I bought my TV from Lazada and it arrived in less than 48 hours. TV works fine too. Definitely impossible to get the same price elsewhere. But the risk is there...
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post Dec 11 2018, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Dec 11 2018, 01:28 PM)
While I'm a huge fan of buying online, but quite a number of stores can match whatever price you get online. I was at Best Denki KLCC earlier and the Samsung 55" NU7100 and NU8000 TVs were equivalent or slightly cheaper at the store ie around RM2,400 and RM4,300 respectively. These are the same as what you'd pay on Lazada during 12.12 sales

The thing is the risk is there even when you buy at the store as some models especially high end ones aren't available at the store so you have to wait for them to deliver it anyway.
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I'm in Melaka maybe that's why lol. Price is a bit ridiculous here. Yeah stock is another issue. Definitely easier just clicking around instead of going to many shops just to survey.

QUOTE(visualfoley @ Dec 11 2018, 04:57 PM)
go for LG. samsung and sony got too many issues with their panel.
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What issues bro? Usually people like to attack LG for using RGBW. sweat.gif

QUOTE(visualfoley @ Dec 11 2018, 05:02 PM)
Wow it's even cheaper than when i got it last month.

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post Jan 4 2019, 04:58 PM

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Just recently got a PS4 Pro and plugged it in my LG 49UK6300 (yes yes the retarded RGBW model whatever) and frankly i'm impressed with the 4K HDR performance when playing Gran Turismo Sport. It's actually quite bright. When i brought my PS4 Pro to my hometown and plugged it into the Samsung 43NU7100 there, the HDR performance seems worse and way less bright compared to my LG. Obviously i've set it up properly for both TVs and this is just my experience between these 2 entry level models. Not bashing or anything. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 8 2019, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jan 5 2019, 01:38 AM)
For many 4k TVs with mediocre brightness rating , they don't nearly have the specs to showcase the dynamic range of HDR content in its full glory .
Therefore when it comes to HDR content mastered at very high nits ( brightness ) ,  they have to choose to either retain the highlight details or blown out the details to sustain the brightness .  This process is called tone mapping .

At this time , there are no standard which define which tone mapping method is right .  For the TV makers , Sony's TV tend to go for the brightness while LG is leaning towards keeping the details .
Samsung's TV by nature , will always choose to retain details at the cost of losing brightness of the overall APL .
LG's TV used to be similar but back in 2017 , LG has introduced a different approach to HDR 10 called Dynamic tone mapping ( Active HDR ) which purpose is to adjust the HDR meta data frame by frame .
This can partially restore brightness to the HDR picture , while keeping details intact .  Samsung TV on the other hand , doesn't do any dynamic tone mapping .

This might explain why GTS looks brighter on the LG TVs when the specs of both TV are more or less on the same level .
P/S : Samsung's entry level 4K TVs (namely NU7400 , NU7100 , NU7300 , MU6100 , MU6300 etc etc ) have a feature called" UHD Dimming " , which is an algorithm based dimming function that tries to darken the overall picture to improve the contrast . Sadly this come with the cost of dimming down the small and bright highlights.  You will want to use every trick from the book to notice a difference from SDR on these TVs , I recommend setting "Contrast Enhancer " to high .
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Ah that makes sense. Turning on Contrast Enhancer on the Samsung TV does make it slightly better.

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post Jan 14 2019, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(she3p @ Jan 10 2019, 09:42 PM)
Hi,

I`m a noob with TV settings.
Getting my Sony 55X7500F this weekend, what`s a good TV setting for predominantly Netflix and Miracast browsing on Chrome?

Or standard setting is sufficient?

Usually watch my TV on a fairly bright lit living room during the night and day time, it can be quite bring in the morning.

Any recommendation?
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https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x750f/settings

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post May 23 2019, 12:55 PM

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Hisense H8F series seems promising. Android TV, local dimming, Dolby Vision. Starting at 400usd for 50". Reviews seems to say that they perform well above the price point. But seems like it's not available here yet.
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post May 27 2019, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ May 23 2019, 01:44 PM)
" Dolby Vision " is the key here.
Paying for a world wide Dolby Vision license is expensive  , very expensive . 

It is like joining the royalty club for TV brands , one of the reason why it is only found at the upper range models for TV .
They can do that for the US because they have the market and audience for it . Outside of US , they will not find that kind of market even in China because most Chinese shows are not even mastered in DV.
Which also explain why TCL TV and most Chinese TV brands outside of US are not compatible with DV.
They did not bring the last year's H9E in the Asian region , I really don't see that changing anytime soon.

On the other hand , the more affordable Dolby Vision TVs  can be found on the upcoming Panasonic GX800 ( which will also support HDR10+ at the same time ).
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That's too bad. I bet it can sell a lot here for that price.
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post Jun 17 2019, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Snoopycute98 @ Jun 14 2019, 08:19 PM)
Hi, tumpang thread,
any recommendations for 65" 4K HDR (Not fake HDR) TV for under RM5k?

Currently have NU7400 on mind, but parents preferred androidTV.
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Since your parents want Android, just go for Sony. There's also Toshiba, TCL & Haier. Sharp is more than 5K. I'm just stating what i found on Google/Lazada. sweat.gif

 

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