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Convael
post May 23 2018, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ May 23 2018, 01:15 PM)
IPS better colour, lower refresh rate and response time.
TN worse colour, viewing angle, better refresh rate
or get middle ground, VA panel.

But yes, better find shop and view there.
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VA is not a middle ground between the 2.

VA panels generally has a much better colors accuracy , contrast ratio ( which is very important for picture quality )
There are not many VA panels for monitor compare to IPS / TN . IPS screens in general have far worse contrast rating than a VA .


The primary trade off is the poor viewing angles , but if you are really concerned about the viewing angle these curved version should alleviate some of the issues .

However if you are playing PC games , most of the time you are going to sit directly in front of your screen , so the poor viewing angles shouldn't be too much of a problem.

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post May 23 2018, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 23 2018, 11:56 AM)
The monitor design very nice but AMD freesync tho
Cant work with Nvidia right?

Thanks for the recommendation!
Hmm. Does the 1ms and 4ms make a difference in gaming?
Found it with 2.4k ish price
If compare to viewsonic XG2703 and asus PG279Q
All their panel is the same right?

Also, do u guys calibrate ur monitor?
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All the 3 models used the same panel , therefore their performance should be identical .


The ROG swift version also come with the a far better OSD than the other 2 , and build quality .
It goes from asus rog - > Acer predator -> Viewsonic , from the highest build quality to the lowest .



There is a difference between the input latency , afterall there is a gap between the numbers no matter how small it is .

But right now a lot of the monitors there were sponsored in Esports are IPS monitors , so if the Esports athlete can tolerate with the 4ms it shouldn't be too much of a worry for you.


People have claimed that at higher fps , they tend to notice the the input latency more . Especially running games like CS:GO @ 200 fps . But if you are going for QHD (1440p) gaming with a peak of 144 (oc to 165+ ), the 1 ms shouldn't be too noticeable for you , if at all.

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post May 23 2018, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingR @ May 23 2018, 12:13 PM)
For the 1ms - 4ms difference you got to try it out at the shop bro then you'll get a feel.  Last time I was thinking should I get the slightly pricier ASUS PG279Q or the Acer XB271HU with free acer headset and as I was researching and reading reviews I found that both have similar performance aside from aesthetic and monitor controls with Asus has a more user friendly monitor controls. However the deal breaker was the QC issues that were reported by many users of the ASUS monitors back then, which I'm not sure if they have fixed it now. I felt I was getting more value by choosing Acer that time, price difference was around RM700-900.

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The major complain came from the backlight bleeding but it was not exclusive to the Asus ROG units. The other 2 similar models , the Acer predator and Viewsonic version also suffered the same because they share the same screen.

And yes this problem persist until today , these 3 monitors are still a gamble if you looking to buy them . If you are unlucky you will still get a unit that has more backlight bleeding than the others. And backlight bleeding is inevitable in these screens , unfortunately.


Most manufacturer do not consider the bleeding issue as a " defect " , therefore you will most likely unable to ask for a refund as well .

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post May 23 2018, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 23 2018, 09:26 PM)
Wow, thanks for the overwhelming reply and info
Hmm, actually of of the 3 panels do have backlight bleeding right?
I guess its all down to luck then

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Backlight bleeding is actually a commonly seen issue in IPS panels . But in this case , there seem to be a design flaw among these panels that somehow caused the problems to be more severe. Subsequently all 3 of the models suffered from a more noticeable backlight bleeding issue.

But if you are sitting in a fairly bright room they will not be too distracting .


If your budget is around RM2.5k , the Acer Predator model is still the best choice for QHD gaming

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post May 23 2018, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ May 23 2018, 08:41 PM)
I personally play CS:GO a lot and I'm using Dell S2417DG. TN panel 1440p 165hz. I personally find TN don't really matter if you're sitting straight infront of your pc. Super happy with this monitor to date. smile.gif
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TN also suffered from color accuracy and consistency , beside the poor viewing angles .
Unlike VA panels , TN 's color production is poorer than the other displays even when viewed from the front.


Good thing is they are still the only monitors that can get as close as 1ms Input latency as of this moment.

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post May 25 2018, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 25 2018, 05:34 PM)
TN worse color? smile.gif

You guys need to try the TN nowadays, can't even tell the difference between IPS panel unless you side by side.

Remember, color profiles can be tweaked too. View angle matter is not an issue now, and gaming - how color accurate do you want actually?

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Different people have different sensitivity when it comes to perceive colors but in this case any normal person can tell a difference.
Some people have a multi- monitors set up for PC like me ( one of them is TN ) , so I can definitely tell which is which very easily even without a comparison unit beside.



The major drawback from TN panel is , they give an illusion of narrower color gamut because they are unable to control the lights coming through the Nematic Liquid crystal as precise as the other panels . Again , tweaking colors have nothing to do with inferior color production. No matter how you tweak , the hardware functions remain the same . You cannot miraculously increase the color spectrum of a panel just from settings. Perhaps accuracy is not the most accurate word here , color consistency it is.


Here is a comparison between S2716DG (TN ) By Dell with Asus PG279Q ( IPS ) , they are both lined up to be viewed from the front , so viewing angles shouldn't be the concern here , merely the color reproduction quality. Do let me know if an RM 2000 + TN panel is up to your standard for comparing , despite of the cheaper cost of production of TN panels in general.

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Even without a comparison unit , you can tell the color of the TN panel is a little washed out

The TN panels have indeed been improving with the recent years but they are still far from perfect . It isn't to say they are inferior than VA / IPS , each of them just excel in the situation they best suited for .

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