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post May 23 2018, 11:34 AM, updated 8y ago

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As per title

Need you guys recommendation on a good monitor for gamin (CSGO PUBG GTA V n more) and movie streaming (youtube etc)
Budget 2.5k
Resolution 1440p
Thanks guyss
TN/IPS/VA?

Edit: Thanks in advance ya smile.gif

This post has been edited by neverfap: May 23 2018, 11:34 AM
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post May 23 2018, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 23 2018, 11:34 AM)
As per title

Need you guys recommendation on a good monitor for gamin (CSGO PUBG GTA V n more) and movie streaming (youtube etc)
Budget 2.5k
Resolution 1440p
Thanks guyss
TN/IPS/VA?

Edit: Thanks in advance ya smile.gif
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Ultrawide 1080 can?
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post May 23 2018, 11:47 AM

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ACER predator XB271HU... best!!!! comes w GSync 165hz....

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post May 23 2018, 11:49 AM

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Im using Acer Predator 27" XB271HU. IPS Gsync 1440p 165Hz(OC). Back then I bought pricing was RM 3K but now you can get around RM 2.6K but pricing may be lower without GST later.

However, based on the games you played, you can consider TN models which have 1ms input latency which may cut out the input lag that exist in an IPS model for really competitive gaming.
The trade off? Poor viewing angle and color vibrancy, but it can save you a bit more money.
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post May 23 2018, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(jmas @ May 23 2018, 11:44 AM)
The monitor design very nice but AMD freesync tho
Cant work with Nvidia right?

Thanks for the recommendation!

QUOTE(hawkl @ May 23 2018, 11:47 AM)
ACER predator XB271HU... best!!!! comes w GSync 165hz....
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QUOTE(FlamingR @ May 23 2018, 11:49 AM)
Im using Acer Predator 27" XB271HU. IPS Gsync 1440p 165Hz(OC). Back then I bought pricing was RM 3K but now you can get around RM 2.6K but pricing may be lower without GST later.

However, based on the games you played, you can consider TN models which have 1ms input latency which may cut out the input lag that exist in an IPS model for really competitive gaming.
The trade off? Poor viewing angle and color vibrancy, but it can save you a bit more money.
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Hmm. Does the 1ms and 4ms make a difference in gaming?
Found it with 2.4k ish price
If compare to viewsonic XG2703 and asus PG279Q
All their panel is the same right?

Also, do u guys calibrate ur monitor?
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post May 23 2018, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 23 2018, 11:56 AM)
The monitor design very nice but AMD freesync tho
Cant work with Nvidia right?

Thanks for the recommendation!
Hmm. Does the 1ms and 4ms make a difference in gaming?
Found it with 2.4k ish price
If compare to viewsonic XG2703 and asus PG279Q
All their panel is the same right?

Also, do u guys calibrate ur monitor?
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You casual or competitive gamer? Most ppl wont notice the 1ms vs 4ms difference.
But once you go 1ms, you can never stand gaming on normal monitor.
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post May 23 2018, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 23 2018, 11:56 AM)
The monitor design very nice but AMD freesync tho
Cant work with Nvidia right?

Thanks for the recommendation!
Hmm. Does the 1ms and 4ms make a difference in gaming?
Found it with 2.4k ish price
If compare to viewsonic XG2703 and asus PG279Q
All their panel is the same right?

Also, do u guys calibrate ur monitor?
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For the 1ms - 4ms difference you got to try it out at the shop bro then you'll get a feel. Last time I was thinking should I get the slightly pricier ASUS PG279Q or the Acer XB271HU with free acer headset and as I was researching and reading reviews I found that both have similar performance aside from aesthetic and monitor controls with Asus has a more user friendly monitor controls. However the deal breaker was the QC issues that were reported by many users of the ASUS monitors back then, which I'm not sure if they have fixed it now. I felt I was getting more value by choosing Acer that time, price difference was around RM700-900.

For the color calibration you mentioned about, unless you are into video/photo editing where you need very accurate color profiles to work with otherwise I wouldn't worry too much.
However I did some calibration myself based on some YouTube video guide posted by other Acer XB271HU users. As each monitor unit may be different from one another you have to calibrate differently and can't just simply follow a set of numbers posted by others. There are some websites that may teach you how to DIY for simple calibration but for more accurate ones you need proper hardware to do that.
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post May 23 2018, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ May 23 2018, 12:05 PM)
You casual or competitive gamer? Most ppl wont notice the 1ms vs 4ms difference.
But once you go 1ms, you can never stand gaming on normal monitor.
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Thankss
Quite competitive
But not till full on serious competitive
TN Color really huge difference compare to IPS?

QUOTE(FlamingR @ May 23 2018, 12:13 PM)
For the 1ms - 4ms difference you got to try it out at the shop bro then you'll get a feel.  Last time I was thinking should I get the slightly pricier ASUS PG279Q or the Acer XB271HU with free acer headset and as I was researching and reading reviews I found that both have similar performance aside from aesthetic and monitor controls with Asus has a more user friendly monitor controls. However the deal breaker was the QC issues that were reported by many users of the ASUS monitors back then, which I'm not sure if they have fixed it now. I felt I was getting more value by choosing Acer that time, price difference was around RM700-900.

For the color calibration you mentioned about, unless you are into video/photo editing where you need very accurate color profiles to work with otherwise I wouldn't worry too much.
However I did some calibration myself based on some YouTube video guide posted by other Acer XB271HU users. As each monitor unit may be different from one another you have to calibrate differently and can't just simply follow a set of numbers posted by others. There are some websites that may teach you how to DIY for simple calibration but for more accurate ones you need proper hardware to do that.
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Thanks for the valuable input xD
Hands on gonna be hard for me since nearby got no pc shop

Gonna find a place to try them out
Well, current preference will be the XB271HU
Gonna research more.

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post May 23 2018, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 23 2018, 12:31 PM)
Thankss
Quite competitive
But not till full on serious competitive
TN Color really huge difference compare to IPS?
Thanks for the valuable input xD
Hands on gonna be hard for me since nearby got no pc shop

Gonna find a place to try them out
Well, current preference will be the XB271HU
Gonna research more.
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IPS better colour, lower refresh rate and response time.
TN worse colour, viewing angle, better refresh rate
or get middle ground, VA panel.

But yes, better find shop and view there.
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post May 23 2018, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ May 23 2018, 01:15 PM)
IPS better colour, lower refresh rate and response time.
TN worse colour, viewing angle, better refresh rate
or get middle ground, VA panel.

But yes, better find shop and view there.
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VA is not a middle ground between the 2.

VA panels generally has a much better colors accuracy , contrast ratio ( which is very important for picture quality )
There are not many VA panels for monitor compare to IPS / TN . IPS screens in general have far worse contrast rating than a VA .


The primary trade off is the poor viewing angles , but if you are really concerned about the viewing angle these curved version should alleviate some of the issues .

However if you are playing PC games , most of the time you are going to sit directly in front of your screen , so the poor viewing angles shouldn't be too much of a problem.

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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 23 2018, 11:56 AM)
The monitor design very nice but AMD freesync tho
Cant work with Nvidia right?

Thanks for the recommendation!
Hmm. Does the 1ms and 4ms make a difference in gaming?
Found it with 2.4k ish price
If compare to viewsonic XG2703 and asus PG279Q
All their panel is the same right?

Also, do u guys calibrate ur monitor?
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All the 3 models used the same panel , therefore their performance should be identical .


The ROG swift version also come with the a far better OSD than the other 2 , and build quality .
It goes from asus rog - > Acer predator -> Viewsonic , from the highest build quality to the lowest .



There is a difference between the input latency , afterall there is a gap between the numbers no matter how small it is .

But right now a lot of the monitors there were sponsored in Esports are IPS monitors , so if the Esports athlete can tolerate with the 4ms it shouldn't be too much of a worry for you.


People have claimed that at higher fps , they tend to notice the the input latency more . Especially running games like CS:GO @ 200 fps . But if you are going for QHD (1440p) gaming with a peak of 144 (oc to 165+ ), the 1 ms shouldn't be too noticeable for you , if at all.

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post May 23 2018, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingR @ May 23 2018, 12:13 PM)
For the 1ms - 4ms difference you got to try it out at the shop bro then you'll get a feel.  Last time I was thinking should I get the slightly pricier ASUS PG279Q or the Acer XB271HU with free acer headset and as I was researching and reading reviews I found that both have similar performance aside from aesthetic and monitor controls with Asus has a more user friendly monitor controls. However the deal breaker was the QC issues that were reported by many users of the ASUS monitors back then, which I'm not sure if they have fixed it now. I felt I was getting more value by choosing Acer that time, price difference was around RM700-900.

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The major complain came from the backlight bleeding but it was not exclusive to the Asus ROG units. The other 2 similar models , the Acer predator and Viewsonic version also suffered the same because they share the same screen.

And yes this problem persist until today , these 3 monitors are still a gamble if you looking to buy them . If you are unlucky you will still get a unit that has more backlight bleeding than the others. And backlight bleeding is inevitable in these screens , unfortunately.


Most manufacturer do not consider the bleeding issue as a " defect " , therefore you will most likely unable to ask for a refund as well .

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post May 23 2018, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ May 23 2018, 08:09 PM)
VA is not a middle ground between the 2.

VA panels generally has a much better colors accuracy ,  contrast ratio ( which is very important for picture quality )
There are not many VA panels for monitor compare to IPS / TN .  IPS screens in general have far worse contrast rating than a VA .
The primary trade off is the poor viewing angles , but if you are really concerned about the viewing angle these curved version should alleviate some of the issues .

However if you are playing PC games , most of the time you are going to sit directly in front of your screen , so the poor viewing angles shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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QUOTE(Convael @ May 23 2018, 08:15 PM)
All the 3 models used the same panel , therefore their performance should be identical .
The ROG swift version also come with the a far better OSD than the other 2 , and build quality .
It goes from asus rog - > Acer predator -> Viewsonic , from the highest build quality to the lowest .
There is a difference between the input latency , afterall there is a gap between the numbers no matter how small it is .

But right now a lot of the monitors there were sponsored in Esports are IPS monitors , so if the Esports athlete can tolerate with the 4ms  it shouldn't be too much of a worry for you.
People have claimed that at higher fps , they tend to notice the the input latency more . Especially running games like CS:GO @ 200 fps . But if you are going for QHD (1440p) gaming with a peak of 144 (oc to 165+ ), the 1 ms shouldn't be too noticeable for you , if at all.
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QUOTE(Convael @ May 23 2018, 08:19 PM)
The major complain came from the backlight bleeding but it was not exclusive to the Asus ROG units. The other 2 similar models , the Acer predator and Viewsonic version also suffered the same because they share the same screen.

And yes this problem persist until today , these 3 monitors are still a gamble if you looking to buy them  . If you are unlucky you will still get a unit that has more backlight bleeding than the others. And backlight bleeding is inevitable in these screens , unfortunately.
Most manufacturer do not consider the bleeding issue as a " defect " , therefore you will most likely unable to ask for a refund as well .
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Wow, thanks for the overwhelming reply and info
Hmm, actually of of the 3 panels do have backlight bleeding right?
I guess its all down to luck then

Thanks a lot!! smile.gif

QUOTE(Kristal.S @ May 23 2018, 08:41 PM)
I personally play CS:GO a lot and I'm using Dell S2417DG. TN panel 1440p 165hz. I personally find TN don't really matter if you're sitting straight infront of your pc. Super happy with this monitor to date. smile.gif
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The 24 and 27 inch also cost quite a lot right?
1.9 ish and 2.6 k respectively

The 27 inch xb271hu around 2.4 ~ 2.5
Haha
Will see how on the 1st of June.
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post May 23 2018, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 23 2018, 09:26 PM)
Wow, thanks for the overwhelming reply and info
Hmm, actually of of the 3 panels do have backlight bleeding right?
I guess its all down to luck then

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Backlight bleeding is actually a commonly seen issue in IPS panels . But in this case , there seem to be a design flaw among these panels that somehow caused the problems to be more severe. Subsequently all 3 of the models suffered from a more noticeable backlight bleeding issue.

But if you are sitting in a fairly bright room they will not be too distracting .


If your budget is around RM2.5k , the Acer Predator model is still the best choice for QHD gaming

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ May 23 2018, 08:41 PM)
I personally play CS:GO a lot and I'm using Dell S2417DG. TN panel 1440p 165hz. I personally find TN don't really matter if you're sitting straight infront of your pc. Super happy with this monitor to date. smile.gif
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TN also suffered from color accuracy and consistency , beside the poor viewing angles .
Unlike VA panels , TN 's color production is poorer than the other displays even when viewed from the front.


Good thing is they are still the only monitors that can get as close as 1ms Input latency as of this moment.

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QUOTE(Convael @ May 23 2018, 10:02 PM)
TN also suffered from color accuracy and consistency , beside the poor viewing angles .
Unlike VA panels , TN 's color production is poorer than the other displays even when viewed from the front.
Good thing is they are still the only monitors that can get as close as 1ms Input lantecy as of this moment.
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Thank you so much for the input!
Will get the xb271hu
Just hope for the best xD
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I recently purchased a XB271HU from Gamer's Hideout for 2.4k. They have 6% discount already for GST deduction.
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QUOTE(allsick @ May 25 2018, 10:18 AM)
I recently purchased a XB271HU from Gamer's Hideout for 2.4k. They have 6% discount already for GST deduction.
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Thanks for the info!
Gonna get it soon
Weekend maybe
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Does anyone know someone who provides calibration service? There's so limited people doing this now.
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TN worse color? smile.gif

You guys need to try the TN nowadays, can't even tell the difference between IPS panel unless you side by side.

Remember, color profiles can be tweaked too. View angle matter is not an issue now, and gaming - how color accurate do you want actually?

QUOTE(Convael @ May 23 2018, 10:02 PM)
TN also suffered from color accuracy and consistency , beside the poor viewing angles .
Unlike VA panels , TN 's color production is poorer than the other displays even when viewed from the front.
Good thing is they are still the only monitors that can get as close as 1ms Input latency as of this moment.
When was the last time you used a TN panel? As in a good one, not the sub RM 500 cheap monitors.


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