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TSwindwithme
post May 16 2007, 11:09 PM, updated 19y ago

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Leap over 92% dynamic color range and refined high quality design

It's 3 years longer since I bought a 19 inch LCD monitor for a time.
I have my high level request of LCD panel and color, because I always take
long time to test and online with my system and LCD,
The better panel source and circuit design LCD can use for long term with
better color level presented.

That's why I took lot time and money to by my 19 inch LCD last time; I
bought the SHARP panel OEM product with Taiwan brand. That moment they
only have high level panel on 19inch, the cost is high to over 800USD. That
moment a 17 inch LCD only cost 350USD average price.

This time I did take it serious to upgrade the LCD, because of the HD
resolution request, I study for a time, I bought DELL 2407WFP and ACER AL
2623W early or late, these 2 products have different advantage, but we put
it down and discus DELL 2707WFP first.


DELL is aggressive on LCD monitor field these years, and they did have many
high level and high quality LCD with big size,
Especially the hot products 2405/2407WFP wide screen monitors, the better
panel with better design, shape quality and price value did have the
advantage then many other LCD makers.


The last one I got on hand is the DELL 2707WFP, it takes more then 1000USD
street price, but it's not that expensive compare with other 27 inch LCD.

The most important point is the shape and design with high quality, the
whole use experience is really far from most of other existing LCD monitors.

Product box is huge.
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Let's open the cage to release this treasure.
Big colored product menu, also have CD menu file below, and DVI/D-
SUB/Power cables, etc.
The special point is the blue clean cloth with DELL logo. That's for special
shape design use to keep it shine as a mirror.
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The DELL 2707WFP itself.
The resolution is 1920*1200, compare with 24/26 inch LCD,
The range between every dot is bigger, but that makes bigger words to see
document and websites.
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Take a look on front side.
The shape design is majestic, also have great design quality.
Whole silk surface treatment metal case cover and mirror treatment base
design, you have to see to feel and believe the absolute different quality.
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The basement and metal stand design can turn 40 degree left and right, 21
degree up and 7 degree down.
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The bottom of the panel, excellent heat spread holes design.
If these holes design on up side with bad internal protection, that will full of
dust inside LCD with long time.
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OSD buttons.
These is also advantage design of DELL, full function design buttons to make
user adjust easier.
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Comes with the blue light when works.
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post May 16 2007, 11:26 PM

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Nice monitor! drool.gif Damn nice their new design compare to the old charcoal black design. smile.gif
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post May 16 2007, 11:30 PM

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i dun like the new design...it abit sux..
i liek the black border..when u switch off light u cant see anything except the light from the monitor

i just like the panel~

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post May 16 2007, 11:34 PM

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Mirror surface design - DELL mark.
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Turn around to see the back.
Black hest spread holes design did have the powerful and strong shape
feeling.
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The heat spread design is good.
Different direction holes, better inside design to prevent dust get inside.
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Stand design, can rise and down the LCD.
Good design and material, even the big panel as 27 inch can be easy handled.
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Back IO ports.
Start from left side: USB/ Card reader/ S-Video/ Composite Video/ VGA/ DVI-D
(with HDCP)
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Right side
Power/ Speaker Power
Whole multi safety logo and made in China.
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DELL features: Built-in multi card reader.
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post May 17 2007, 12:03 AM

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Oh my gosh, such a nice monitor. drool.gif
Congrats on owning this baby!


I love the stand and the base.. But not the colour combination, though my viewsonic is black+silver too... doh.gif doh.gif

Jealous at you TS for this!

While I'm still counting money for my Dell E228WFP cry.gif
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post May 17 2007, 12:14 AM

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Use SpyderPRO to correct the real color.
DELL default color, my personal feel the luminance and contrast is too high.
After OSD adjust and SpyderPRO color correction, the color is really
impressive.
Of course, I believe the basic color range still depends on the panel and
internal circuit design.
user posted image


The test picture after adjust the color.
Because of 92% color range, gray level and color scale is better the 2407
and many LCD, the cloths in back of the lady is also visible.
user posted image


I have highly request on color range and gray level scale,
When I adjust and review my photos, good and rich color can give me more
correct info to do after works.
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Use this DELL 2707WFP after used the DELL 2407WFP,
I can fell the quality improved very much, of course the 2407WFP is also very
good compare with other LCD makers and with good price.
But 2707WFP is able to challenge high quality design and over the limited I've
ever seen.

Silk surface treatment/Mirror surface base/Special heat spread design/Great
OSD buttons/92% color range/Many angle adjust/Multi media input
design/DELL fully warranty.
These advantages is rich enough and shows that DELL 2707WFP is the
leading edge products.

Once we really want to picky on this great product, if this monitor can have
90 degree rotate design as 2407, will make 2707WFP more perfect.
Whole design on 2707WFP and reasonable price make it no competitors on
the same segment market this moment, once the cost lower in the near
future, we believe that will be really popular in the market as 2407 before.
These 2 years, DELL LCD products pick up as a rising star and give the power
users more better options from mainstream to high-end level, that's good co
consumers.

About the color present, 2407/2707 use same panel as S-PVA from Samsung,
but maybe 2707 use better circuit design or better 92% color range,
Although the same panel, the 2707WFP final present result is better then
2407 after color adjustment, the total color is closer to reality. 2407/2707 is
close to cold blue tone and ACER IPS is close to warm yellow tone,
PVA/IPS shows different color range present, but there is one thing we can
absolutely sure of beyond doubt, the visible angle/Gray level/Color scale is
really hundred miles better then mainstream 22 inch TN panel LCD to fulfill our
picky eyes.

I study and use some 24/26/27 inch monitors in these 2 months, DELL 2707
WFP is the best indeed!
If someone is interested on this sharing contain, I will take my time to have
color range present or OSD function adjust, and share the color adjust file for
you to have better vision soon!

Next coming product:
DFI LANParty UT NF680I LT SLI-T2R
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Boot up screen
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post May 17 2007, 02:06 AM

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Any tips on adjusting 2407WFP's color range then? Thanks. smile.gif
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post May 17 2007, 08:43 AM

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any comments on the 2007wfp? 2407wfp beyond my budget. this will be my very first lcd. use mainly for web browsing & fps gaming. a bit worried about the relatively slow 16ms response time.
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post May 17 2007, 09:48 AM

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windwithme can share the setting in the OSD for this 2707 cause i own it also hahah biggrin.gif

thanks
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post May 17 2007, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(anon5391 @ May 17 2007, 08:43 AM)
windwithme,

any comments on the 2007wfp? 2407wfp beyond my budget. this will be my very first lcd. use mainly for web browsing & fps gaming. a bit worried about the relatively slow 16ms response time.
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Forget about the response time and just get the 2007WFP. There is no relative way to measure response time. 16ms on the 2007WFP is BWB, not GTG.
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post May 17 2007, 03:26 PM

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the whole article/review seems to be translated and copied from somewhere else.. TS, is this your genuine work? if yes, then i apologize for speculating, if not, please include the original link lah.. give credit to the original author..
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He IS the reviewer and owner, infact he IS a reviewer himself from Taiwan. Not the crystal cat? That's his trademark.
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Damn.
How i wish i have the money to buy it. sad.gif
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ May 17 2007, 03:26 PM)
the whole article/review seems to be translated and copied from somewhere else.. TS, is this your genuine work? if yes, then i apologize for speculating, if not, please include the original link lah.. give credit to the original author..
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a senior member from 2003 and still don't know this reviewer?
Obviously u need to lurk moar lol.
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I'm still thinking about whether to get a 22" LCD and you have to come out with this drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif LCD!!!

The only thing I can say about this monitor is drool.gif!

What's the market price, BTW?
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ May 17 2007, 03:26 PM)
the whole article/review seems to be translated and copied from somewhere else.. TS, is this your genuine work? if yes, then i apologize for speculating, if not, please include the original link lah.. give credit to the original author..
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LMFAO! You should be called 'NEWBIE' instead of Senior Member. Everybody here knows the reviewer.
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post May 17 2007, 07:27 PM

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it's on today's Intech.. costs about 4.8k without dell discount. T.T
kinda pricey for a 27 incher. Price is quite close to the 30 inch dell which sports higher reso. However, nothing beats the design and feel of this monster. smile.gif
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Now its on promotion till 21st May for RM3999.

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...dhs1&l=en&s=dhs
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ May 17 2007, 04:35 PM)
He IS the reviewer and owner, infact he IS a reviewer himself from Taiwan. Not the crystal cat? That's his trademark.
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ok.. my apology to TS..
didn't know i'm not fit to be called senior member for not knowing TS as a reviewer.. tongue.gif
the whole article just seemed to be direct translated, that's why i suspect..


Added on May 17, 2007, 8:28 pm
QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ May 17 2007, 04:35 PM)
He IS the reviewer and owner, infact he IS a reviewer himself from Taiwan. Not the crystal cat? That's his trademark.
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ok.. my apology to TS..
didn't know i'm not fit to be called senior member for not knowing TS as a reviewer.. tongue.gif
the whole article just seemed to be direct translated, that's why i suspect..


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QUOTE(windwithme @ May 17 2007, 12:14 AM)
Use SpyderPRO to correct the real color.
DELL default color, my personal feel the luminance and contrast is too high.
After OSD adjust and SpyderPRO color correction, the color is really
impressive.
Of course, I believe the basic color range still depends on the panel and
internal circuit design.
user posted image
The test picture after adjust the color.
Because of 92% color range, gray level and color scale is better the 2407
and many LCD, the cloths in back of the lady is also visible.
user posted image
I have highly request on color range and gray level scale,
When I adjust and review my photos, good and rich color can give me more
correct info to do after works.
user posted image

user posted image
Use this DELL 2707WFP after used the DELL 2407WFP,
I can fell the quality improved very much, of course the 2407WFP is also very
good compare with other LCD makers and with good price.
But 2707WFP is able to challenge high quality design and over the limited I've
ever seen.

Silk surface treatment/Mirror surface base/Special heat spread design/Great
OSD buttons/92% color range/Many angle adjust/Multi media input
design/DELL fully warranty.
These advantages is rich enough and shows that DELL 2707WFP is the
leading edge products.

Once we really want to picky on this great product, if this monitor can have
90 degree rotate design as 2407, will make 2707WFP more perfect.
Whole design on 2707WFP and reasonable price make it no competitors on
the same segment market this moment, once the cost lower in the near
future, we believe that will be really popular in the market as 2407 before.
These 2 years, DELL LCD products pick up as a rising star and give the power
users more better options from mainstream to high-end level, that's good co
consumers.

About the color present, 2407/2707 use same panel as S-PVA from Samsung,
but maybe 2707 use better circuit design or better 92% color range,
Although the same panel, the 2707WFP final present result is better then
2407 after color adjustment, the total color is closer to reality. 2407/2707 is
close to cold blue tone and ACER IPS is close to warm yellow tone,
PVA/IPS shows different color range present, but there is one thing we can
absolutely sure of beyond doubt, the visible angle/Gray level/Color scale is
really hundred miles better then mainstream 22 inch TN panel LCD to fulfill our
picky eyes.

I study and use some 24/26/27 inch monitors in these 2 months, DELL 2707
WFP is the best indeed!
If someone is interested on this sharing contain, I will take my time to have
color range present or OSD function adjust, and share the color adjust file for
you to have better vision soon!

Next coming product:
DFI LANParty UT NF680I LT SLI-T2R
user posted image

Boot up screen
user posted image
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What a rich guy. laugh.gif NV680i mobo+ Dell2707WFP+Logitech Hgh end mouse.So damn rich. laugh.gif

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I love this but it's beyond my budget.
Good review rclxms.gif
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nice LCD..can enjoy 1920 x 1200..sumore are DELL product.. biggrin.gif
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post May 19 2007, 02:00 AM

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dell should add hdmi input like benq.
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post May 19 2007, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(norazwan79 @ May 19 2007, 03:00 AM)
dell should add hdmi input like benq.
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dvi quality is da same wit hdmi...jus da hdmi sends audio signals as well..we dun wana use sound frm da monitor wudnt we?crrect me if im wrong smile.gif
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are the two dogs sitting on the monitor came with the monitor?
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QUOTE(g5sim @ May 19 2007, 07:52 AM)
are the two dogs sitting on the monitor came with the monitor?
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QUOTE(kianwee @ May 19 2007, 09:37 AM)
Are you trying to be funny?
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by adding a hdmi will increase the connectivity...thats nice(PC - DVI-D, XBOX360 - Component/vga, PS3 - HDMI)...
but it'll also increase the cost
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QUOTE(Turnip @ May 19 2007, 03:20 AM)
dvi quality is da same wit hdmi...jus da hdmi sends audio signals as well..we dun wana use sound frm da monitor wudnt we?crrect me if im wrong smile.gif
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yup..HDMI probally for a bigger display like TV.That have better sound .

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Ahh, oh so perfect. Except for the cosmetics.

Does the silver bezel affect your while using the monitor in the dark? Wouldnt it be kinda distracting.
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One question - how many dead pixels so far?
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how good is this when compared to apple cinema display? brows.gif
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 26 2007, 03:58 PM)
how good is this when compared to apple cinema display? brows.gif
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ACD dun have 27" and this dell is better than all ACD except the resolution on the ACD 30".

2707wfp better contrast ratio, wide color gamut, DVI with HDCP, other video inputs, usb hub, card reader, cheaper.

conclusion:- current ACD line dont even have to be considered unless you really like the design.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 26 2007, 03:58 PM)
how good is this when compared to apple cinema display? brows.gif
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Sorry i dont buy apple lcd tongue.gif
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27" is definitely better for movie watching because it is HD panel. if 1:1 mapping, it'll almost fill up the screen. But for higher resolution 30", there'll big black bar at top and bottom if 1:1 mapping is done.
So, 27" is the sweet spot for HD movie watching.

And reading text will be greaat too coz its larger. Text in 30" I assume is smaller due to higher resolution. Correct me if I'm wrong tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 29 2007, 03:36 PM)
27"  is definitely better for movie watching because it is HD panel. if 1:1 mapping, it'll almost fill up the screen. But for higher resolution 30", there'll big black bar at top and bottom if 1:1 mapping is done.
So, 27" is the sweet spot for HD movie watching.

And reading text will be greaat too coz its larger. Text in 30" I assume is smaller due to higher resolution. Correct me if I'm wrong tongue.gif
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Not high resolution. It's the pixel pitch. the pixel pitch for a 27incher is 0.287 IIRC and the pitch for a 30incher is 0.270.
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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Jun 30 2007, 11:55 PM)
Not high resolution. It's the pixel pitch. the pixel pitch for a 27incher is 0.287 IIRC and the pitch for a 30incher is 0.270.
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I don't get what you want to point out in my post that is wrong tongue.gif 30" resolution is indeed higher than 27" which in turn higher than HD resolution. 27" is HD resolution plus a bit more.
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Do you develop your own Color Profile (*.icc)? Any chance you're going to share with us?
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wow...dunno why i miss this thread. they should put this as a sticky or part of the review section on the LYN homepage. great review on a great product. ive seen the 27" dell ....its really really nice. with the price coming down every week, its just a matter of time b4 the price is comparable to a 24" LCD
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Do you develop your own Color Profile (*.icc)? Any chance you're going to share with us?
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I use a software called Monitor Calibration Wizard, which I think is one of the better software solutions around.
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QUOTE(windwithme @ May 17 2007, 12:14 AM)

If someone is interested on this sharing contain, I will take my time to have
color range present or OSD function adjust, and share the color adjust file for
you to have better vision soon!
dude, can you share it with us?
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E228WFFP 22" price increased from RM849 to RM859, luckily i got mine early
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RM10 oni wut. Anyway,for RM4000, isnt it better to get a 32" LCD TV instead?
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LCD TV is nice for movie, but as a monitor? rclxub.gif

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Shocking... DELL 2707WFP is now selling @ RM2999!!

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...dhs1&l=en&s=dhs

I just bought the 2407WFP HC Edition today @ RM2366 (5 years warranty + Dilivery)...

...should i cancel it and revert to the 27" or the 2407WFP HC Edition is better for using Photoshop/InDesign?

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cancel it, top up and get the 27.
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Sep 18 2007, 10:25 AM)
cancel it, top up and get the 27.
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Are you sure bro?

I mean apart from the (obvious) size diff (24" vs 27"), does the 27WFP produces better color?

My main concern in the 27WFP dont have the Pivot (90degrees turn) option and the pixel dimension
is the same as 24WFP (1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz). rclxub.gif

Since im not usinng it for gaming... more to design apps, my main concern is color reproduction.

If you (or anybody for that matter) have both experiences with this 2 Flat Panels, your
views in this matter are highly appreciated. icon_rolleyes.gif

Thanks!


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Arghh, price so cheap now... shocking.gif cry.gif

Should I, should I, should I .... rclxub.gif


But why price drop? Izzit coz Full HD 1080p LCD TVs are getting cheaper?

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TS, can share the icc profile? abit curious how it looks like with ur settings...
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QUOTE(Inoue @ Sep 18 2007, 01:16 AM)
Shocking... DELL 2707WFP is now selling @ RM2999!!

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...dhs1&l=en&s=dhs

I just bought the 2407WFP HC Edition today @ RM2366 (5 years warranty + Dilivery)...

...should i cancel it and revert to the 27" or the 2407WFP HC Edition is better for using Photoshop/InDesign?

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If you bought the 2407 now it would a be a waste because Dell's prices fluctuate up and down depending on their promotions and the current price RM 2300 is on the high side. For reference, I bought mine at RM 2000. The 2707 though is currently at the lowest price I've ever seen it. If you want to base your decision on which model is more "worth it" then it would definitely be the 2707.

Despite what the review says the 2707 does not necessarily produce better color over the current model of 2407. The latest model of 2407 (with the HC suffix) uses a different backlight that can supposedly achieve a 92% colour gamut, same as the 2707.


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post Sep 18 2007, 10:06 PM

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thanks bro... your view/comment help me decide to stick to d' 2407WFP-HC.

now i will use the RM600++ to invest in Wacom Intuos tablet.

fyi, im pairing the 2407 with DELL Latitude D630... to create a clean & spacious ambient in my office. i guess 2707 is a bit overkill.

nway, again thanks!


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post Sep 20 2007, 04:29 PM

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yeah.. cancel it.. you should've bought it last 2 months because the price of 2407wfphc was RM1800+ at that time while RM3999 for 2707

RM2999 is a bargain! Gosh.. anybody wants my 2 months old 2407wfphc?

Picture quality wise? of course 2707 is better because it uses S-IPS compared to S-PVA for 2407
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post Sep 20 2007, 04:51 PM

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post Sep 20 2007, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Sep 20 2007, 04:29 PM)
yeah.. cancel it.. you should've bought it last 2 months because the price of 2407wfphc was RM1800+ at that time while RM3999 for 2707

RM2999 is a bargain! Gosh.. anybody wants my 2 months old 2407wfphc?

Picture quality wise? of course 2707 is better because it uses S-IPS compared to S-PVA for 2407
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2707 still uses the same va type panel like the samsung 275t if I not mistaken, not an ips
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post Sep 20 2007, 07:01 PM

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oh yeah sorry my bad. 3007wfp uses phillips s-ips
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post Sep 20 2007, 11:18 PM

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same screen resolution, pixel pitch 0.303mm (2407WFP : 0.270mm)

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Smg panel...
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post Sep 30 2007, 06:03 PM

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Bro, care to share out the colour profile?
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post Oct 12 2007, 11:00 AM

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Hi, I just bought a Dell 22" LCD monitor, I notice that for the upper part of the screen is more darker than the lower part. Is that normal? Is my LCD broken?

But when I off my room light then it become better but still can notice a bit upper part is darker than the lower part.

I am new to the LCD world, never use 1 b4... tongue.gif
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post Oct 12 2007, 11:07 AM

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i think should be the limitation of viewing angle for this model... hmm.gif
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post Oct 12 2007, 11:09 AM

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IC IC, thanks...
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post Oct 12 2007, 11:15 AM

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Yep. its just viewing angle limitation. no problem with your monitor.


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post Dec 8 2007, 08:33 AM

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DELL is selling 2707wfp at 2999 in PC fair now.

 

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