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TStictac88
post May 6 2018, 02:47 PM, updated 8y ago

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so blockchain says it has these advantages:

1. safety and transparency. nobody can forge any fake transaction.
2. anonymous. person identity is protected.
3. user controlled network. no centralized controls to abuse the result.

so why can't a blockchain system be created and give every voter and candidate one wallet. voter wallet will receive 1 coin. candidate wallet 0 coin. voters send their coin to their intended candidate on election day. all political parties and interested voters can run their own mining software to process the payment transactions.

at end of the day, count the coins in candidate wallet. the candidate with most coins win.

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post May 6 2018, 02:48 PM

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How do you explain those guy that run away with eth money?
rooney723
post May 6 2018, 02:49 PM

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like dis bn will lose la, cannot magic
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post May 6 2018, 02:49 PM

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It can but phantom voter is nt going to work
So it can't be implemented
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post May 6 2018, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(tictac88 @ May 6 2018, 02:47 PM)
so blockchain says it has these advantages:

1. safety and transparency. nobody can forge any fake transaction.
2. anonymous. person identity is protected.
3. user controlled network. no centralized controls to abuse the result.

so why can't a blockchain system be created and give every voter and candidate one wallet. voter wallet will receive 1 coin. candidate wallet 0 coin. voters send their coin to their intended candidate on election day. all political parties and interested voters can run their own mining software to process the payment transactions.

at end of the day, count the coins in candidate wallet. the candidate with most coins win.
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Yes, blockchain can be used and is one of the most effective solution to ensure fair voting without manipulation.

The question should be, why no govt wants to implement it?
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post May 6 2018, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(tictac88 @ May 6 2018, 02:47 PM)
so blockchain says it has these advantages:

1. safety and transparency. nobody can forge any fake transaction.
2. anonymous. person identity is protected.
3. user controlled network. no centralized controls to abuse the result.

so why can't a blockchain system be created and give every voter and candidate one wallet. voter wallet will receive 1 coin. candidate wallet 0 coin. voters send their coin to their intended candidate on election day. all political parties and interested voters can run their own mining software to process the payment transactions.

at end of the day, count the coins in candidate wallet. the candidate with most coins win.
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Because you CANT CHEAT with blockchain.

Deswei.
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post May 6 2018, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(quilava @ May 6 2018, 02:50 PM)
Too inefficient. Computing requirement for over 12 million in a day.
Electric consumption through the roof.
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There are other types of proof other than proof of work which require massive amount of computing power to confirm a transaction
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post May 6 2018, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(quilava @ May 6 2018, 02:50 PM)
Too inefficient. Computing requirement for over 12 million in a day.
Electric consumption through the roof.
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well i just randomly looks for some statistics, some claimed monero can at least process 400 transactions per second

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/...-network-handle

with 400 TPS, 1 hour = 400 x 3600 = 1,440,000

malaysia has 30 millions populations. 1.4 millions per hour does not seem to be sufficient. but if we use a different network for each electoral district, with around 222 districts we only have like 135000 transactions per district. it is well within the processing capacity of each network.


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post May 6 2018, 03:18 PM

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Then how to blackout, phantom voter, etc?
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post May 6 2018, 03:21 PM

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some country in Africa did a vote and blockchain was involved.

Again, government must agree to do it. They got guns, you don't.

QUOTE(scorptim @ May 6 2018, 02:51 PM)
Yes, blockchain can be used and is one of the most effective solution to ensure fair voting without manipulation.

The question should be, why no govt wants to implement it?
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post May 6 2018, 03:24 PM

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Still can cheat during vote registration
BN will give phantom coin to phantom supporter
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post May 6 2018, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ May 6 2018, 03:24 PM)
Still can cheat during vote registration
BN will give phantom coin to phantom supporter
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Not that easily done unless if it’s a centralised blockchain.
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QUOTE(exhauster @ May 6 2018, 02:56 PM)
There are other types of proof other than proof of work which require massive amount of computing power to confirm a transaction
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I am honestly hoping that gets implemented soon so we don't have all these fucking miners raising GPU prices through the roof.
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post May 6 2018, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ May 6 2018, 02:48 PM)
How do you explain those guy that run away with eth money?
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You clearly no idea

They hack the bitcoin company, noway anyone can hack bitcoin itself
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post May 6 2018, 04:03 PM

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An honest government can.

Is BN honest? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(tictac88 @ May 6 2018, 03:09 PM)
well i just randomly looks for some statistics, some claimed monero can at least process 400 transactions per second

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/...-network-handle

with 400 TPS, 1 hour = 400 x 3600 = 1,440,000

malaysia has 30 millions populations. 1.4 millions per hour does not seem to be sufficient. but if we use a different network for each electoral district, with around 222 districts we only have like 135000 transactions per district. it is well within the processing capacity of each network.
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Why must voting be done on only one day? Many of us have voted countless times on the Internet. Hardly any of these must be completed within a day. It is like restricting fund transfers to office hours, which almost nullifies the advantage of automation.

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post May 6 2018, 04:14 PM

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Problem is, the one who develops it will have full control of what the results would be.
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post May 6 2018, 04:15 PM

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Go to followmyvote.com

Now, what was your question again?
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You can use Blockchain for voting. But the technology is still new. Try googling Horizon State.
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post May 6 2018, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(tictac88 @ May 6 2018, 02:47 PM)
so blockchain says it has these advantages:

1. safety and transparency. nobody can forge any fake transaction.
2. anonymous. person identity is protected.
3. user controlled network. no centralized controls to abuse the result.

so why can't a blockchain system be created and give every voter and candidate one wallet. voter wallet will receive 1 coin. candidate wallet 0 coin. voters send their coin to their intended candidate on election day. all political parties and interested voters can run their own mining software to process the payment transactions.

at end of the day, count the coins in candidate wallet. the candidate with most coins win.
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https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/14/sierra-le...based-election/
The citizens of Sierra Leone went to the polls on March 7 but this time something was different: the country recorded votes at 70% of the polling to the blockchain using a technology that is the first of its kind in actual practice.

The tech, created by Leonardo Gammar of Agora, anonymously stored votes in an immutable ledger, thereby offering instant access to the election results.

“Anonymized votes/ballots are being recorded on Agora’s blockchain, which will be publicly available for any interested party to review, count and validate,” said Gammar. “This is the first time a government election is using blockchain technology.”

“Sierra Leone wishes to create an environment of trust with the voters in a contentious election, especially looking at how the election will be publicly viewed post-election. By using blockchain as a means to immutably record ballots and results, the country hopes to create legitimacy around the election and reduce fall-out from opposition parties,” he said.

Why is this interesting? While this is little more than a proof of concept – it is not a complete voting record but instead captured a seemingly acceptable plurality of votes – it’s fascinating to see the technology be implemented in Sierra Leone, a country of about 7.4 million people. The goal ultimately is to reduce voting costs by cutting out paper ballots as well as reducing corruption in the voting process.

Gammar, for his part, sees the value of a decentralizes system.

“We’re the only company in the world that has built a fully-functional blockchain voting platform. Other electronic voting machines are ‘block boxes’ that have been increasingly shown to be vulnerable to security attacks. For that reason, many US states and foreign nations have been moving back to paper,” he said. “If you believe that most countries will use some form of digital voting 50 years from now, then blockchain is the only technology that has been created which can provide an end-to-end verifiable and fully-transparent voting solution for this future.”

One election in one country isn’t a movement – yet. However, Gammar and his team plan on expanding their product to other African countries and, eventually, to the rest of the world.

As for the election it is still unclear who won and there will be a run-off election on March 27. The winner will succeed President Ernest Bai Koroma who has run the country for a full decade.


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