nope. all of the major feature differences between 6.1 & 6.2 are mainly the splitting of some functions into separate apps, like replication. if 6.1 works well for you, I suggest you to wait until got confirmation that your hardware works.

since I have no idea on your hardware, a quick search reveals this:

- Outcome of the update: SUCCESSFUL
- DSM version prior update: DSM 6.2.1-23824-1
- Loader version and model: JUN'S LOADER v1.04b - DS918+
- Using custom extra.lzma: NO
- Installation type: BAREMETAL - Gigabyte B450 (AMD Ryzen 3600)
- Additional comment: reboot required

I'd suggest you to get an additional usb, with a spare drive and try a fresh install. DSM 6.2-23739 works well for me, and I've got no time to try since the newest current update won't work with my DS3617xs.

Well if you really wanna try 6.2, install esxi, and passthrough your drives (or better yet, connect your drives to a LSI card and passthrough that). this would be the easiest
https://mega.nz/#!eWokUSiS!6_vFRKsB...8sl58aF9otD0Gbc
admin:synology2019$$$
mac1=0011322CA785

Once everything is set up, shutdown the VM, and save snapshot. you should be able to update at least to 6.2.2-24922 Update 2, but if it screws up, just restore the snapshot.

Save 2 cores for ESXi, or 1 core if it's low usage. at least you can get better VM performance than xpenology's VMM. Hell you can even install hackintosh using spare cores if your CPU has them.
https://www.sysnettechsolutions.com/en/vmwa...mware-esxi-6-7/

uh no, you're not booting 6.1..... yet. the installer is just an installer, it'll work even in socket 775 cpu. once you put in the .pat file then it'll install the DSM 6.1. or 6.2.

try it on a test hdd first, if it works then you're set!

if you have only 2GB of RAM then I don't suggest you to use a lot of apps, maybe just the really essential ones like download station and SMB/Windows/NFS/WebDAV file share.

that enclosure is fine, but I've yet to see anybody test the heat performance anywhere so you'll be the first then as long as you understand that it's for 2.5" hdd

This post has been edited by C-Fu: Sep 29 2019, 12:23 PM

FYI soul_gamerz my DS3615 is still running well on my E8400 socket 775 system. It was a surprise even till this day lol.

Well try out and lemme know! If the pat is listed in Xpenology_Tools program then it should work.

If you use Xpenology...


RAID type > Can be changed to…
Basic > RAID 1 & 5
RAID 1 > RAID 5
RAID 5 > RAID 6
SHR-1 > SHR-2

I personally recommend SHR, simply because it maximises the use of space in all of your mixed-capacity drives.

In my case...



It's not an issue if all of your drives are the same capacities.

Also bear in mind that with SHR and BTRFS, should you have a catastrophic RAID failure (3 drives dead, etc), you can just use an usb disk with ubuntu live on it, boot it and mount the remaining drives and you can still recover whatever files that's left.

This post has been edited by C-Fu: Oct 8 2019, 05:59 PM

Not quite.

SHR is a feature enabled by default on selected models. It's not enabled on DS3615, 3617 and ds918. So you have to enable it yourself by editing 2 lines in a config file.

Steps:
1. install putty on your windows machine.
2. enable SSH in your DSM web ui.



3. Use PuTTy to ssh into your machine - insert the IP and port number. login using your account.
type this:



4. type ?supportphoto then press i. insert support_syno_hybrid_raid = "yes" above it, and press Esc to exit insert mode.



5. type ?supportraidgroup, press i and add # in front of it. press Esc.



6. type to save and exit, reboot. and you're set.


SHR advantages:
+ sits on top of BTRFS, so in the event of a raid failure your data is still available as long as the drive is physically OK
+ maximises your disk space
+ parity is split in all drives, different than most other software raid where 1 or more disks are just for parity/protection.
+ snapshot in case file becomes corrupted
+ VERY fast
+ survives fresh DSM install where you can just migrate the disks to other xpenology/synology system

SHR to me has been very reliable and solid for years.

FreeNAS, XigmaNAS, uses ZFS. OMV supports ZFS with a plugin. ZFS too is reliable, but less flexible. In my case I have a lot of drives with mixed capacities so SHR is the only way to go. You can 100% use OMV if you want, nobody's stopping you but since OMV uses btrfs by default, might as well go with xpe and run omv as a VM in it if you really need some omv apps/plugins that's not available in Xpe (I found none, but I wasn't looking hard enough).

FreeNAS is a total beast, and while it used in enterprise setting, to me it's overkill for a NAS, not to mention the high(er) hardware requirements. But you don't need ECC ram for ZFS, no matter what people say It's a little scary, but your risk of losing everything in your ZFS pool is 1 in 115,792,089,237,316,195,423,570,985,008,687,907,853,269,984,665,640,564,039,457,584,007,913,129,639,936. it benefits greatly with ECC though.

If you just need fileserving function, Xpe fully works with a RM200 PC can't beat that yo

This post has been edited by C-Fu: Oct 8 2019, 07:15 PM

yes. but that's a port multiplier. it means it takes 1 sata port and splits the speed into four.

also it runs very very hot, even with just one port used.

you need a lsi card. some are 3G, some are 6G. the 3G kind supports a max of 2TB per drive, so get 6G version if possible.

if you need more slots, get a LSI card, and an expander card.
the (rebranded, so cheaper) LSI card:


https://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Fujitsu-D2616-L...XEAAOSw9mpaLmFu

the card must be flashed to IT mode so the software (unraid/freenas/xigmanas/xpenology) will handle the raid. flashing is as easy as flashing mobo bios.
there are a billion models available, this is just the cheapest that I found on ebay using the search term "lsi 6G" but there are cheaper cards (I bought mine for RM60, can't remember the model name).

the card as 2 sas ports, so you can connect 2x4 sata ports using this SFF 8087 cable:


https://www.lazada.com.my/products/cabledec...5I6eg3&search=1

expander card:


https://www.ebay.com.my/itm/IBM-ServeRAID-6...VUAAOSw-kdXzYni


if you wanna connect it to the expander, you need two of this cable to connect to the above expander


https://www.lazada.com.my/products/07m-inte...8fP0LD&search=1

and 4x SFF 8087 breakout cable from the expander, giving you 4x4 sata ports.

there are other ways, but this is the cheapest that I know of.

on one of my boards, I mixed the onboard sata ports with 1 lsi 2 ports card, 1 expander, and 1 lsi 4 ports card.

I have no idea sorry. It's too vague. Phenom II I think is 125W at max, and need to calculate drives (15W per drive) and mobo+ram sticks (50? 100? Can't remember). Some enable hdd spindowns, but since you won't save that much with spindowns but introduce more wear and tears, I'd personally recommend AGAINST it.

Then it comes to your house tariff. 100kWh? 300kWh? 100kWh is 33.40 cents. so if your rig is at max load 24/7 and using 130W + 60W (4drives) + 100W = 300W, that would mean 0.3kWh x RM0.35 x 24h x 30 = RM75.60 per month, the absolute worst-case scenario. Hence a good efficient PSU will be your best first investment, second is a low-powered proc (like E5 2650L instead of E5 2650).


Effectively no difference other than costs.


Not quite. Syno's RAID implementation is different than normal RAID.

You don't use the biggest just for redundancy, but you use all/most drives for redundancy AND space to minimize wasted space.

Try it here https://www.synology.com/en-my/support/RAID_calculator


you can enable nested hw in esxi. but if you're already using esxi, might as well use esxi's VM implementation instead of VMM.

I don't think you need to. a more accurate or average estimate would be to calculate using idle cpu wattage since it's not gonna be 100% all the time. even if you use things like plex that uses cpu transcoding for videos, it'll happen during the duration of the video only.

only way to be sure is to use a watt meter, set the cost according to your place, and leave it for a week and see for yourself.



This post has been edited by C-Fu: Dec 8 2019, 12:21 AM

you wouldn't want hardware raid on unraid, let alone on freenas.

you can, but you would want the software raid to handle most if not everything.

Also there's a total of ONE thread out there that states how to crossflash D2616 to LSI IT firmware, but links are either dead or my internet's dead.

That's AWESOME! Congrats!

Whatever people say, 2nd gen is MORE THAN CAPABLE for normal use. As you have noticed, pretty much everything still works.

For Xpenology on QEMU/KVM, a good guide is here.



few notes:
Hypervisor=kvm=VMM
For intel 2nd gen, max you can go is E3-12**v2. On top of my head, I can't remember if E3-1xxx series has a igpu built-in or not - I think it doesn't. iGPU is important if you want to use something like plex/emby/jellyfin for video transcoding purpose. if you want h264/mp4 video transcoding, I believe you need at minimum a 4th gen cpu. if you want a GPU to help with that, just get a minimum 1050 or 1050Ti for extra memory for more video transcoding at the same time. Some 1050Ti cards have no need for external power, so might be a very useful and cheap card for multiple clients.

jellyfin supports amd video transcoding, but performance wise isn't as good as nvidias. But if it works, it works.

you don't have to use virtmanager. there are alternatives, my preferred way are web-based ones.
https://github.com/mistio/mist-ce
https://ovirt.org/
Proxmox (my fav, a standalone OS, a bit complex to set up in the beginning, but totally worth it)
https://github.com/retspen/webvirtcloud (try this first)
https://github.com/kimchi-project/kimchi (try this first also)

5 years? People have been using 1st gen intel for NAS since 7 years ago till today

1st gen's advantage is it's the same slot as the xeon counterpart. it also supports ECC, and some boards can actually support up to 48GB ECC ram (3 channels x 3 sticks x 4GB per stick).

also protip: if you can get a really good deal with 1st gen and above, or lga2011 dual slot mobos (or chinese variants called "x79 motherboards), don't hesitate!



imagine, 4c/4t cpu for RM30. or a 8c/16t for RM100, and lga2011 board for RM300. in 2020 and in malaysia, currently the best bang for the buck, for our purpose, is this slot.

for transcoding via plex/jellyfin/emby, rule of thumb is
MP4/h264 needs a min of 4th gen intel (any 4th gen non xeon will do, as all uses the same iGPU)
MKV/h265/hevc file needs a min of 8th gen intel
nvenc via a min of 1050 for h264+h265

no need a lot of porn, once you know a deep secret about RM40/month gsuite, you'll start going down the rabbit path of sonarr+radarr+bazarr+a billion more "companion" web apps

a good list for you to try, preferably via docker, is https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted and https://github.com/veggiemonk/awesome-docker .

This post has been edited by C-Fu: Jul 21 2020, 02:11 AM

Google Drive Integration via RClone


If you ever want to move, copy, or sync to Google Drive, or any other cloud service provider, I recommend using RClone. It requires work to set up, but once you do, just like building your own NAS, you'll thinking how you've ever live without it
Best of all, it's free, portable, and works on most (if not all) systems out there. Ubuntu, general linux, xpe, proxmox, windows, raspberry pi, macos, and even (rooted) android!

Why google drive?

Learning time: About 1 hour


Basic idea.
1. Install/Download RClone.
2. Create a new remote (share)
3. Choose cloud provider. Here I'm showing you Google Drive integration, so pick Google Drive
4. Get a new id from google's console, so it allows external access to/from your google drive, and put it in #3
5. Open a generated link to link rclone to your GDrive.
6. Mount your google drive somewhere.
7. Repeat Step 1-3, but choose Encrypt/decrypt a folder. This way even if somebody hacks your google drive, they wouldn't know what are the files in there.





I'm going to use Xpenology for this guide. Enable ssh from control panel, and use something like putty to ssh into your NAS box.

1. download rclone temporarily into a folder, like /volume1/Downloads and run the install script.
curl https://rclone.org/install.sh | sudo bash
2. run rclone config, new remote name (example: gdrive) choose google drive. from your google drive, enable the api access to drive. get a new client id and client secret and put it there. full access, everything else empty, and don't use autoconfig. copy paste the url into a browser, put the authorization code and you're set.
3. run rclone config again, this time choose encrypt/decrypt a remote (example name: crypt). for the folder, use something from #2, and the folder name you want encrypted files like movies to be. example: gdrive:crypt. encrypt filenames & dir names, choose a password. Step #3 is only needed if you are using gdrive for movies.
3a. run rclone lsd gdrive: or rclone lsd crypt: to see it working (lsd is like ls)
4. you then need to mount the crypt folder to a xpenology's shared folder or wherever you want (example: in /volume1/Gdrive/crypt). create a script called mountcrypt.sh somewhere (example: /volume1/mystuff/mountcrypt.sh). insert this.
#!/bin/bash
rclone mount --daemon --allow-other --dir-cache-time 48h --vfs-read-chunk-size 32M --vfs-read-chunk-size-limit 2G --buffer-size 512M --vfs-cache-mode writes --log-level INFO --stats 1m --allow-non-empty crypt: /volume1/Gdrive/crypt
5. from DSM's Control Panel, go to Task Scheduler. Create a new triggered task, event on boot-up. user: root. under Task Settings, script is:
bash /volume1/mystuff/mountcrypt.sh >> /volume1/mystuff/mountcrypt.txt 2>&1
AND SAVE THE TASK. the ">> /volume1/mystuff/mountcrypt.txt 2>&1" part means it will generate a txt file for whatever that happens, like a log. Click OK, then right click on the task and run. open the text file to see any errors that might appear.
6. to copy/sync/move files, say from /volume1/Movies folder to your google drive (example: GoogleDrive/crypt/Movies), create a scheduled task with the script
/volume1/mystuff/movemovies.sh >> /volume1/mystuff/movemovies.txt 2>&1
and save. the movemovies.sh contents are
/bin/rclone move /volume1/Movies crypt:Movies -v --retries 1 --size-only --no-update-modtime
and you're set. replace move with sync or copy if you want.
It looks complicated, and depending on how far you want it to work, it can look complicated I guess. But at most, you only need an hour or two of your life understanding the process. the second time you wanna do it, it'll take 5 minutes. Rclone is good for the simple fact that it's portable, and works on almost every system out there - raspberry pi, ubuntu, windows, proxmox, (rooted) android you name it.

awesome! Should definitely try xpenology under esxi next time

for laptops it depends on your bios, see if you can increase the fan speed
have you tried changing the fan speed setting in Control Panel?

syno OS. it's surprising that amd e300 works. which loader and dsm version?

If you want h265 transcoding, a minimum of 7TH GENERATION INTEL iGPU is needed.

4k, SD, HD, doesn't matter. J, i3, celeron, doesn't matter. Difference between J and i3 is big. Difference between i3 and i7 is not as much. In terms of amount of transcoding streams that is.

but if you want 10bit aka HDR transcoding, you need 8TH GEN INTEL.

quality wise, intel igpu's qsv is average to above average, while RTX 2xxx and 3xxx is very high quality.

hope this helps.



This post has been edited by C-Fu: Sep 19 2021, 07:27 PM

hardware cost-wise, for any NAS OS out there you need

CPU - Intel 1st gen CPU - the one with i3/i5/i7 and three digit model name, like i7 750. You can go older with DSM, but only if you know what you're doing.
Mobo + RAM - 1st gen can have 6 slots of DDR3 memory of up to 24GB of RAM (6x 4GB DDR3 RAM). very rare mobo models can go up to 48GB. Usually they have 6 or 8 SATA ports.
PSU - Assume CPU +Fans + Mobo + RAM takes 250Watts. 20Watts per HDD. Add them all, plus another 20%, and get a PSU (preferably gold or bronze) rated for that. Turn on hdd spindown in BIOS, and it will sip power.

If you're new, go with intel 2nd gen and above just because 2nd gen has iGPU for display for first time configuration. makes it easier. or get 1st gen with a cheap small GPU.

G6400 is a beast if you plan to use it for transcoding.
You have 4 sata + M.2, so go with at least 4 drives. use it for your steam drive first. as for M.2, if you need nvme, use DS918 image. if not, you can get a cheap M.2 to pcie x4 adapter that you can then use for a sata card. or get the m.2 to u.2 kit.





giving you an extra 4 sata ports. if you use the pcie x4 m.2 adapter, you then need to get a pcie x4 to 4/5/6/8 sata adapter. used to be dirt cheap, but because of Chia mining, it's crazy expensive.






1 SSD is recommended, but not necessary. with Xpe, you can first create one big volume/pool with all of the HDDs (/volume1, 2 or more HDDs) then use 1 or 2 SSD for either cache (for the HDD data), to install all/most of the syno apps (at /volume2) so everything is super speedy, or both (1 SSD for cache, 1 SSD for apps). you really don't need to, but it's pretty useful. can always do it later.

8GB is very sufficient.

you can definitely go with just 2 HDDs, but 4 is nicer (eg. 4x 1TB > 2x2TB).



This post has been edited by C-Fu: Sep 19 2021, 09:21 PM

Xpe supports DLNA. just install MediaServer and you're set.

TV's internal media player is very very finicky. you need the media to use a very specific codec, specific bitrate, specific bitrate type to be supported.
plus no subtitles. it will just fail most of the time, most of the tv.

Or install Plex/Jellyfin, and enable DLNA from it. DLNA is designed for internal network use, so all devices should be able to find it.

Plex can be used offline as well. Disable remote access if you wish, and enable DLNA server (as a fallback), and in Network, type 192.168.0.0/24 or 192.168.1.0/24 in LAN Networks.

This post has been edited by C-Fu: Sep 21 2021, 07:19 PM

truenas is like the endgame for NAS. if you have identical drives, and capable hardware to match, go for it. you won't be sorry.
xpe/syno is more for people with mixed capacity drives who wants the best capacity+performance.

5400rpm vs 7200rpm doesn't really matter IMO. especially if you use gigabit ethernet.

but once you reach the top of the endgame, what's next?

that's another topic lah. but to get you guys started, google distributed storage, lizardfs, ipfs...

how do you find truenas? what hardware are you using?