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post May 15 2007, 12:00 AM, updated 19y ago

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i was on pcgame.com.my and i came across the 'localised version' of stalker.

has anyone purchased this version or any of the other localised ones? whats the diff with the ones that are normal priced (120++) cuz the localised ones are only 79ish. glad to see them coming out with more affordable authentic games. thailand's had them for like a decade, was wondering when the gamers here would be as lucky smile.gif anyways, input please!!
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post May 15 2007, 12:05 AM

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i dont mind buying localized version as long as they dont come with crappy translations from eng -> bm
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I have the localized version of Stalker. Differences are merely aesthetic as the box cover, manual and disc cover are all in BM (Translation is pretty decent) but the game itself is in English and is the same as the regular version.
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FINALLY!!!

*sigh* I've been trying to tell everyone abt this method to reduce piracy. Took so long then only this came about... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(maximsilentfoot @ May 15 2007, 12:00 AM)
i was on pcgame.com.my and i came across the 'localised version' of stalker.

has anyone purchased this version or any of the other localised ones? whats the diff with the ones that are normal priced (120++) cuz the localised ones are only 79ish. glad to see them coming out with more affordable authentic games. thailand's had them for like a decade, was wondering when the gamers here would be as lucky smile.gif anyways, input please!!
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Most localised games only differ in box cover and maybe bundles accesories and so on. Unless an established company decides to localise a game or that the game isn't very complicated or requires alot of changes you wouldn't be seeing much of localised games with bahasa Melayu.
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post May 15 2007, 12:22 AM

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as long the game is in its own default language then its good , the package doesnt matters much except some of the overseas ver bundle stuffs .
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post May 15 2007, 12:40 AM

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if i want to buy my fav game, i hope it is everything in english for english games. hmm...looks like localized version is not for me. i would hate my game boxes/manuals in BM.
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post May 15 2007, 08:08 AM

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Supreme Commander is another game that has a localised version.

Anyway, this localised version is a great way for distributor companies to make games more affodable here in Malaysia. Of course, for them to continue with their efforts, they need sales. So, go buy a localised version today! wink.gif

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QUOTE(Koross @ May 15 2007, 08:08 AM)
Supreme Commander is another game that has a localised version.

Anyway, this localised version is a great way for distributor companies to make games more affodable here in Malaysia. Of course, for them to continue with their efforts, they need sales. So, go buy a localised version today! wink.gif
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I tried localised version before, nothing different in the game content except the boxes.. and I don't really care about the boxes coz if I wan fancy box, I will get CE instead cool2.gif Ohh.. pcgame.com.my currently carry localised version of stalker and supreme commander thumbup.gif

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post May 15 2007, 10:52 AM

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If you dont mind about the packaging and manuals and translations and stuffs which is "outside of the game", the big reduction of price is actually worth it since the content of the game is similar with the imported versions.
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post May 15 2007, 11:39 AM

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translate games to malaysian english instead to bahasa malaysia would be a better idea!
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post May 15 2007, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(LeePakHeng @ May 15 2007, 11:39 AM)
translate games to malaysian english instead to bahasa malaysia would be a better idea!
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In danger of turning this OT, what is 'Malaysian English'?

In light of this though I find it really weird how Malaysians themselves are kinda unsupportive when it comes to the country's national language. Take a look at Japan and China (to name a few), they are so proud of their national language and if we let them, would use their language for everything. However, its the opposite in Malaysia.

I am not saying that I want Supreme Commander to say "Komander Taragung" in the cover but just having a small part of the packaging in BM shouldn't really effect you in deciding whether to buy or not to buy. The price is cheaper than the 'unlocalised' version. In fact, it should promote us more to buy the localised version.
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post May 15 2007, 01:48 PM

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china and japan are not multi nation country, at least, not as much as we do.

back to topic. for me, i am very picky. i want my game boxes and manuals in english, and chinese (proud of chinese language!) is fine for me. BM is always a no no. It is just not artistic enough for me to get those up for display and collections.
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post May 15 2007, 01:50 PM

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The localised versions of Supreme Commander and Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl are the first two titles that are being localised by New Era Interactive Software.

Localising games from English isn't easy, but this time around i made sure that the meaning from English remains in the Malay version.

It's a give and take situation, it has to be in Malay to prevent grey exports to countries like the U.S., just like in Thailand.

We hope to bring in more localised games and if you like to see more games, then do your best to support: buy localised!
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post May 15 2007, 01:54 PM

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BM is the national language , dun like i think u're not malaysian lah.

u want art u go buy painting lah. moron.
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post May 15 2007, 03:13 PM

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like i said, really glad gamers here are finally given the opportunity to buy affordable original games. pirated games dont sell much in thailand anymore because of the dirt cheap prices of the original ones, and there are always so many promotions. it only really took off cuz when they started way back, the gamers were so supportive of it. all the shops that used to sell pirated cds now sell original, like this place in MBK called i27.
so please malaysian gamers, support these localised versions! the more you do, the more they'll make affordable versions of all the new games. its a win-win situation for everyone smile.gif

and yeah, the reason they have to translate it is because if they didnt, it'd be smuggled to the west. any idea how lucky we are in this side of the world to have localised versions where the games are STILL in english??? in the US and UK they pay sumthin like rm150++ dont they. i'd buy the localised stalker, but i'd rather go home and get mine with the thai manual tongue.gif
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wont mind the packaging language as long in game language still english. if we support more, piracy is a no-no anymore. price will drop surely in the future!
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post May 15 2007, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(gestapo @ May 15 2007, 01:54 PM)
BM is the national language , dun like i think u're not malaysian lah.

u want art u go buy painting lah. moron.
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watch your words, kid.
i dont give a damn about BM. so, sue me.
this forum is for discussions and feedbacks on localized version. and i voiced out my opinions. i buy paintings too. but it is out of topic, smart boy. rolleyes.gif


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post May 15 2007, 04:56 PM

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hold ur horses fellas! lets not stray off topic here.

with regards to the language, as far as i know they keep the game itself in english. however, EA thailand (being lame-ass EA) made some games actually in thai (NFS series, Battlefield)....BUT at the day of launch, before u know it, all u gotta do is mess with a config file and change the language back to english, so problem's solved tongue.gif what i'm trying to say is even if they come out with a BM lang. game (i doubt they will) dont worry!!!
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post May 15 2007, 05:11 PM

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it is OK for BM localized version. just that in my posts, i stated that i won't buy it that's all. i would still go for 100+ original english if i really like the game much.

and there's really not much they can do with the game, if they (localization publisher thingy) twisted the in-game language too much, i doubt it would even help to prevent piracy. a majority feedback is required for such products.
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post May 15 2007, 05:17 PM

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Ignoring the flamer ...

Hopefully the localised version gets more support as it is more affordable for us. Remember, the more support you give, the more games they can localise.
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post May 15 2007, 06:19 PM

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are they going to localize CNC3?
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ May 15 2007, 04:44 PM)
watch your words, kid.
i dont give a damn about BM. so, sue me.
this forum is for discussions and feedbacks on localized version. and i voiced out my opinions. i buy paintings too. but it is out of topic, smart boy. rolleyes.gif
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ah i have been warned. so called malaysian hating its national language is the hero here.

dun mind u voice out your opinion but degrading your own national language is unacceptable for me. so how to sue u?

and im not a kid. grow up pls.

edit: sorry to off topic. continue on the discussion pls.

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post May 15 2007, 08:33 PM

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I want localised version of battlefield 2142!! huhu...
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post May 15 2007, 08:45 PM

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hi, honestly i wouldnt want to have even the boxes to be in BM, yeah maybe it is just the back part but looking at it, as a games collector (sort of), i feel something is not right.... hmm.gif

not to say i wanna trash any language or wat, but the language printed there makes it look cheap...

sorry to be so honest

im pretty sure there are quite a number of ppl out there who doesnt like this either...

still i would go for the original imported version.... don get me wrong, i still try to buy original games, and orginal as in the one in english

but localised versions is a no no

i hope this can bring down the prices of original games... as in the one in english.....

anyway imagine (just an example) paying MYR 900k to get a Porsche Carrera GT with the engine n the body n the quality, but instead of the Porsche logo, they put proton.... sure u also tak suka la.... pay so much for that crap? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(jason83 @ May 15 2007, 08:45 PM)
hi, honestly i wouldnt want to have even the boxes to be in BM, yeah maybe it is just the back part but looking at it, as a games collector (sort of), i feel something is not right.... hmm.gif 

not to say i wanna trash any language or wat, but the language printed there makes it look cheap...

sorry to be so honest

im pretty sure there are quite a number of ppl out there who doesnt like this either...

still i would go for the original imported version.... don get me wrong, i still try to buy original games, and orginal as in the one in english

but localised versions is a no no

i hope this can bring down the prices of original games... as in the one in english.....

anyway imagine (just an example) paying MYR 900k to get a Porsche Carrera GT with the engine n the body n the quality, but instead of the Porsche logo, they put proton.... sure u also tak suka la.... pay so much for that crap? rclxub.gif
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Well, aside from the fact that its not in English, the work that they put into the boxes and manuals is comparable to the native versions. They match the font pretty well, the paper quality isn't like ass and the pages don't look like they were scanned into a PC, had the English text removed and then have the BM text flowed (Very badly) in followed by being printed using a low resolution printer (Which was what the Dawn of War manual felt to me).

PS. for all you localized Stalker owners, you can just look inside the game disc and the English manual is in there under pdf format whistling.gif

gestapo: He hates his national language... I know ppl who hate their entire racial heritage. Its opinion and he's entitled to it.

Again, you're reply to him was the issue. You could've addressed it more tactfully but you chose otherwise.

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post May 16 2007, 12:09 AM

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before localising STALKER and Supreme Commander into malay, we at New Era here had considered a lot of what was discussed here.

Dawn of War was a failure because it's a warhammer game, the content had to be in English! the malay translation killed phrases like: For the Emperor! so, it was doomed to failed.

i made sure the translation stayed true to the meaning this time, and phew, was it tough flipping through my dictionary a hundred times over!

many customers like the idea of buying cheaper original games at the expense of language. honestly, with all the games collected, only collects dust. frankly the dust might have covered up the words!

fans who love to collect games in english, are a small market, niche i must say. both localised STALKER and Supreme Commander did fairly well and it hit the right spot with the larger market share: those who want to buy games irregardless of language.

a big thank you to you people!

there are people who spend prudently, thus choosing the most affordable game. i'm sure one day everyone wont have time to play so many games and hence will opt to buy the cheaper ones to make up for the lack of time=money.

we're probably going to localise Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter 2. still negotiating on it but we hope to carry on localising.

Thailand did a great job with localisation and it also took quite a while before it was accepted. hopefully, we can achieve the same in a shorter time frame.

face it, with our exchange rate so high, its unlikely games will be cheap for the next few years so localisation will and might be the only way to go. also, u wont see EA localising their games as they are already locally manufactured for the S.E.A. region, hence a more affordable price of RM 129.90 for C&C3. but still above the RM 100 mark.

a localised porsche?

localised games are still reproduced in the exact quality as the international versions. manual is still in black and white, the boxes are still squishable and cd-keys still work. so if my porsche is going to have a change in language at the expense of price, definitely will consider (if it is still affordable!!!!)

not only that, cars like porsche are for the ultimate collector. games aren't in fact. Transformer toys cost 3 times more than games and most of them aren't even played....

so gentleman my RM one thousand cents, its your call for the games industry.

i hope i can walk into a game store in Malaysia that rivals Singapore and Thailand one day. do you want to do the same?

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QUOTE(king_kong @ May 16 2007, 12:09 AM)
Dawn of War was a failure because it's a warhammer game, the content had to be in English! the malay translation killed phrases like: For the Emperor! so, it was doomed to failed.
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The manual was sorta funny... The entire Ork section was barely translated (Because everything was misspelled laugh.gif )
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post May 16 2007, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(king_kong @ May 16 2007, 12:09 AM)
a localised porsche?

localised games are still reproduced in the exact quality as the international versions. manual is still in black and white, the boxes are still squishable and cd-keys still work. so if my porsche is going to have a change in language at the expense of price, definitely will consider (if it is still affordable!!!!)

not only that, cars like porsche are for the ultimate collector. games aren't in fact. Transformer toys cost 3 times more than games and most of them aren't even played....

so gentleman my RM one thousand cents, its your call for the games industry.

i hope i can walk into a game store in Malaysia that rivals Singapore and Thailand one day. do you want to do the same?
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bro, like i said it is just an example, u still get the carrera gt from porsche, the only difference is that it is cheaper, and the logo they change to proton

to some ppl, having a porsche for 900k with a proton logo is ok, they save maybe around 600k

to some others, they prefer to fork out 1.5 mil to get just the porsche logo..

im just saying im second type, and there are others out there too. yes a game is just rm 79, but don forget, to the malaysian working class, 79 to 159 for a game is considered a luxury (don forget we have our ultimate *localised* version hmm.gif ), so some may think, if they fork out their hard earned money on an original game, they wouldnt wan to buy something which may look inferior or not so original in a way

still i hope having localised versions will bring down the prices of all original games... i din say its a bad thing ok? doh.gif

finally, another example for you to understand ppl type b, there is the localised version of the peugeot 207 (or is it 206) by naza, it costs you almost 70k for local version but with the Naza logo instead of Peugeot, the original Peugeot 207 cos around 90 - 110k (i guess), just my own observation, it seems there are more peugeot 207s on the road compared to the naza 207 whistling.gif

u get my idea? some ppl when they pay an amount of money to obtain a luxury, they wan the true original, not some localised version sweat.gif and original games are a luxury to many

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king kong, maybe we can get it cheaper from u (less than rm50 ka?) .... hehe
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