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post Feb 15 2020, 12:09 AM

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Just change the old water filter to the US Disruptor set. Reason, low flow rate after around 6-8 weeks.

Would like to thank him for the great serviceย  When i just enquire about something, he is ever willing to share his opinions.

As i'm not brand conscious and he has the components that touches water and the filter cartridges are NSF certified, it's good enough.

IMO, This is the most affordable and effective water filter without bleeding your wallet dry. ๐Ÿ˜

Will see how's the flow rate over the next few weeks/months.

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post Feb 22 2020, 09:50 PM

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Hi !! After using for around 8/9days, was asked by wifey on the flow rate. Even thou it's better from previous (~1.3L/min(new)) to ~1.65L/min(new).
Would like to increase the the flow rate further. Any advise?
Further down the road, would also need to upgrade the system, maybe like additional carbon block that cover slightly different/better spec like NSF/ANSI 53 or NSF Protocol P473. Any of this currently in your arsenal?

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post Feb 23 2020, 01:02 AM

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This was the answer given previously by the sales person who instal the previous filter system.
As our flow rate was quite low after a few weeks of usage.
He also recommend a storage tank, just like a RO system but i turn him down.

Well at least your system are better on the flow rate. Just hopping can find a better pre-filter with a better flow.
Would a pleated polyester with more media coverage helps in the flow? Willing to give a try. Thanks

QUOTE(hestati @ Feb 22 2020, 10:29 PM)
You need to get a pump to further increase the flow.

As for additional contaminants, Disruptor cartridge removes most of these that could be possibly removed by activated carbon.
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post Feb 23 2020, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Feb 23 2020, 06:46 AM)
Limiting factor is always carbon block, not pre-filter. Easier to install the pump if you really want the flow to be honest.
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Yes, with the helps of a pump. It will definitely raise up the flow rate by leaps and bounds.

Imo with a better pre-filter like more surface media or a quality rated higher flow rate will also helps.
It will not be as better than the pump but it do provide a slightly better flow which in turn will improve the flow on the carbon side. Correctly me if i'm wrong.

Need advise on the washing the pre-filter.
Is it possible or better to back wash the pre-filter than the method that you post?
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post Feb 24 2020, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Feb 23 2020, 08:59 PM)
You can't backwash pre-filter, it will damage it. Anything pleated polyester cannot be backwashed, unless it is specifically designed for backwash.

You can just remove all the cartridges and see how is the flow. My guess, even with all cartridges removed, your flow will not be significantly better. Stage 1-2 and pre filter also have almost 0 impact on flow (when clean)
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Thanks on the advise of not to back wash the pre-filter.
Will check on the flow rate maybe in a few weeks time.
Maybe will take out all the filter to gauge the flow and see how's the flow like.๐Ÿ˜
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post Apr 7 2020, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(senscents @ Apr 6 2020, 02:59 PM)
WoW.. All it takes was just a word "Fake" and hell break loose. ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜‚

Yeah, that was the first time washing the filter cartridges since new. Quite disappointed with the labelling. Luckily it was on the outside. ๐Ÿ˜‚
Yes, the water filter is genuine with the relevant certification provided.

Any sifu can advise ?
How to achieve a better and or a longer lasting flow rate with out using an electric pump?

After washing the filter cartridges the flow are back to normal ~1,650L/min compare to before washing ~1,470L/min, but i can't be washing the filter every 6 weeks.
Of course i can prolong the washing to 3-4 months, by that time i presume the flow will drop quite significantly and it will be a longer waiting time to fill up the water for rinsing/soaking fruits and vege.
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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 6 2020, 11:13 PM)
I measured mine for you now, but my cartridges (stage 1-2) will be 2 years old in May, stage 2 will be 1 year in May. Also I have 2in1 faucet which has lower diameter.

Tap - 6.3L/min
Filter - 3.3L/min

This is with old cartridges and I really turned down the inlet valve , otherwise water is splashed all over the place (very low sink). I am suspecting that your issue is not a flow, as far as I know your flow is super high, over 9L/min. Your issue is the pressure. You need some pressure to push water through cartridges faster, there is no way around it . Any reason why you do not want a pump? In your case, it would be perfect. Just even if you do get a pump, do not push over 6L/min through these cartridges
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I do not have any power point near the sink, hence can't be using a water pump.

You have only 2 stages filtering?
Your filtering flow rate are very high (2ร— of mine) even thou the output from your tap are lower than mine(~8L/min).
What's your pressure like?
Maybe i need to buy a pressure gauge to check.

Does more nos. of filtering stages impeded the flow?

Is it possible that maybe the old inlet valve are not instal properly last time. The connection are using the same type as the drinking water faucet connection that uses a smaller plastic collar insert to the tubing.

What are the recommended flow for a standard 0.5micron carbon block?
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post Apr 7 2020, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 7 2020, 07:08 PM)
Mine is actually 4 stages, since I have 1 filter in test, so it is carbon+Disruptor.

Can you do a very simple test? Disconnect the tube right after the inlet valve and measure the flow there, so meaning after the valve, but before any filters. Your tube is 3/8", so it should be relatively high. You will see that maybe inlet valve is broken, who knows.

My pressure here is roughly 52psi, at night it is higher at 55. But I have seen over 2L/min with pressure around 35-40 as well. When it drops below 30, then there are some troubles, but with 30psi you usually can't even take a shower
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Just test the flow, after the valve and before the 1st filter as you instructed.
The flow rate are the same as the sink tap ~8L/min. The pressure are quite high looking at the water shooting out from the hose when it was first turn on.
So, no problem with the inlet valve.

1) Does more nos. of filtering stages impeded the flow?

2) What are the recommended flow for a standard 0.5micron carbon block?

3) How to achieve a better and or a longer lasting flow rate with out using an electric pump?

Tried to upload the video of the flow but can't , stated server problems.
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post May 29 2020, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 28 2020, 09:07 PM)
We are working this MCO period. We can also do installations IF your condo management allows
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It's has been app 8 weeks after the 1st cleaning of the prefilter and the flow are getting slower ~1,200L/min compare when it's new ~1,650L/min. It's about 25% lower flow rate for ~14weeks usage.
After cleaning the both prefilter (5m & 1m) and the disruptor, the flow are weaker (~1.33L/min) compare to the first cleaning.
I foresee that in the following 3 or 4 months the flow will be going down again.
Please advise on improving the flow.Thanks


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post May 30 2020, 04:22 AM

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QUOTE(hestati @ May 30 2020, 02:41 AM)
To add to the previous post, just now checking Disruptor which is about 14 months old, cleaning done 3 months ago:

Tap water flow 12s for 1L = 5L/min (considered rather slow actually)
Filtered water flow: 35s for 1L = 1.7L/min

So at bare minimum and with brand new cartridges, if your tap flow is 8L/min, you should easily have 2L/min from the filter (in reality it should be 3.5-4, 2 is really bare minimum).

So it is either total lack of pressure or something somewhere blocking the flow.
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Thanks for your advise.
Good to know that even with an 14months old Disruptor still be able to have ~1.70L/min even with a slower flow of 5L/min.

Yes, i've thought about the flow/pressure might vary form different time/day.
Maybe i've a lower pressure but now let just put the thought behind.

First let me be specific on the matter.
I'm not asking for a super flow of 3, 4 or any higher rate of flow.
I'm quite happy with the flow of ~1.70L/min, of course if it can be better the merrier.

What i would like to achieve is that the flow rate will still be acceptable tolerance of 10 -15% at the end of life. By your opinion, can it be possible?
Even with frequent washing ~7weeks once, the flow are getting lower.

Hope you can help/advise on how to achieve a constant flow with lesser washing at the end of life.
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post May 30 2020, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ May 30 2020, 05:42 AM)
Oh, I see what you mean. Your water seems to be quite dirty. Not the worst I've seen, but there is definitely lots of iron, therefore rust on the cartridges. Any cartridges get less flow as they get dirty, that is normal. However, there are 2 factors here:

1) When you have a flow of say 4L/min and drop to 3.5L/min it is hardly noticeable. Of course when you have 1.7 and then drop to say 1.2, this is more significant. In other words, you are already on a low flow and now it is getting lower, it's frustrating, even though the drop is the same in terms of ml/min

2) Unfortunately the drop in flow is not linear. I know you think of it in terms of %, saying if 4L dropped to 3.6L, it is 10% loss, so 1.7 should also drop 10% to 1.53. It should be like that in theory, but in real life it is not. Losses at lower flow/pressure are much higher.

What is the regular tap flow nowadays, still 8L/min? I would suggest to try and troubleshoot it once again. The simplest way I can think of is to remove ALL the cartridges and checking the flow. If the issue is low pressure in your system, then without cartridges you see significantly better flow. If, however, there is only slight improvement, then the problem is with some connectors somewhere. I am wondering if there could be some teflon tape partially blocking some fitting... Must be something very simple that we can't see. I understand that you are happy with 1.7 flow and want to keep it this way. But, if I could come up with analogy, it is like if we have a hole in the petrol tank, but trying to keep fuel consumption low by tuning the engine. Hope we can find a solution together!
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As i'm in a old housing area(>15years) the piping are mostly clogged with a poor water flow and dirty water, so can't expect much of a high pressure/flow.
The flow rate might fluctuate from ~6.5- 8L/min, definitely not more than 8L/min.

Will try to test the flow with out all the cartridges just to measure the flow rate. That will be another weeks as i've just clean it last week.

1) Can you supply a better 1m pre-filter with moreย  surface media? As more surface media will prolong the clogging and in return a better flow rate in a longer time.
2) Can a parallel pre-filter helps with the clogging and prolong the flow rate?

If this two methods help, it will definitely slow down the degradation of flow by ~50%.
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post Jun 1 2020, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ May 31 2020, 06:59 PM)
1) Harmsco makes one of the best  pleated polyester filter out there. If you need more surface area you will have to go 10"BB, but you will experience more pressure drop with it most probably. And that will not be cheap. Other option is not to use 1 micron, but rather choose 5-10 micron.

2) It will help, but it will not reduce degradation by 50%, maybe 20-30, hard to tell.

But with 6-8L/min of tap flow, you should still have ~2L/min flow from the filter. Let's see what the test without cartridges shows.
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Today flow rate direct from 3/8 hose before the pre-filter ~6.8L/min.
Flow after the 1st pre-filter housing only are ~2.05L@20secs = ~6.15L/min
Flow with 4nos of housing only are ~2.15L@38secs. So it's ~3.40L/min.

Flow with 2 pre-filter instal (5m &1m) and 2 housing only(Disrp & Carbon) ~2.00L@38secs = ~3.16L/min
Flow with 3nos cartridges instal but w/o carbon ~2.05L/min
After re cleaning the pre-filter and Disruptor the flow with all filter cartridges inside the housingย  are ~1.45L/min.

Conclusion - With out any cartridges on all 4nos of housing the flow rate drop from 6.8L/min to 3.4L/min. That's a HUGE drop.
2 pre-filter cartridges, just drop ~0.24L.
Disruptor drop another 1.1L and Carbon drop another 0.6L

Mind to test yours w/o cartridges?

Help me.
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post Jun 7 2020, 04:03 AM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Jun 5 2020, 08:33 PM)
Dear all, we are currently out of stock. We had a flooding in our warehouse, and while all cartridges are vacuum wrapped, as some may know, stage 2 from Disruptor is not. We have 2 boxes of damaged cartridges that we now must dispose. Ordered new ones, but they are coming in mid-end June. Really sorry about that, I know some of you were counting on installation in the next few weeks.

P.S. we had 2 units saved, but these were ready for installation and were reserved already. I will update in this thread as soon as stage 2 becomes available.
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Goosh,,, What a big mess and unfortunate event.
Hope you be up and running asap.
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post Jun 11 2020, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ May 31 2020, 06:59 PM)
1) Harmsco makes one of the best  pleated polyester filter out there. If you need more surface area you will have to go 10"BB, but you will experience more pressure drop with it most probably. And that will not be cheap. Other option is not to use 1 micron, but rather choose 5-10 micron.

2) It will help, but it will not reduce degradation by 50%, maybe 20-30, hard to tell.
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Yes, no doubt that Harmsco and others US manufacturer has a good pleated filter. Do you intend to bring in a better/more media surface for 2.5 X 10 X 1M?
As per my test, the pre-filter flow drop ~10%.
If by using a better/more surface media, it will by most drop another ~5 - 10%. In return it will has an extra ~ 50% filtration capacity in which will help to slow down the degradation of flow.
Couple with parallel pre-filter consist of 2nos 1micron(more surface media), i think it would help to improve my water flow rate. Even a 10% - 20% would be a big help.
That's my logic. Workable or not need your expert opinion.
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post Jun 12 2020, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Jun 11 2020, 05:29 PM)
Problem is there is no better ones. There is not 1 with better flow.
Just today I was able to do the measurements. Time to fill 1L of water, 2in1 faucet, cartridges over 1 year old. Please ignore my last measurements, they were faulty, since I partially closed the inlet valve (carbon in old, I wanted slower flow through them) and I forgot about it.

Tap water: 12s/L
Disruptor: 18s/L
Disruptor without cartridges:16s/L

Which translates to:
Tap water: 5L/min
Disruptor: 3.3L/min
Disruptor without cartridges: 3.75L/min
As you can see, cartridges, even when old, contribute to minor drop in flow, 10%

There must be something wrong with your setup. Maybe the faucet is not installed properly, or something else. Unfortunately, since our installer did not do the installation, I can't really say what it is from distance. There must be something obvious, since drop is huge. Tube bent somewhere?

At this point the easiest would be probably to get our technician to take a look at it and isolate the problem or at least come up with a solution. Since he is also our assembler, he will inspect Disruptor itself. If the issue is with the filter itself and not the connection (let's say assembled wrongly, even though every system is tested once assembled), the visit will be free of charge. Would that work for you?
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Thank you for your kind offer of inspecting the filter system. Appreciate your offer and outstanding customer service.
Will take a rain check on this, as time are not right.
Our housing area are still enforcing no visitor regulation on this RMCO period.

Anyway, I've just Re-clean again the pre-filter and disruptor last evening.
This time i jet spray with my thumb against the tap outlet pipe instead of running the water like your video.
Now, viola,, it ~1.68L/min. Yeah,,ย  i know it's still not as high as expected but still it's manageable.
Hope i do not damage the cartridges. ๐Ÿ˜‚
This will last me for another 6 - 8 weeks and the cycle repeat again.

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post Jun 13 2020, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Jun 12 2020, 10:51 PM)
Thanks for your kind words. You did not damage the cartridges, but if you open it every 6 weeks, I can't say what will happen with o-rings, but should be ok probably.

Anyway, I recommend you continue to troubleshoot it. Next time when you open it, please send me a photo of the head from the inside. Also, try to connect faucet to water inlet directly, bypassing the disruptor. How confident are you that faucet is not an issue (just a question, not trying to say you did not connect it well).
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Do i need to apply any lube to the o-ring and treads since i need to service it regularly.

Good advise, will check on the faucet on the next available time. Even thou the connection/installation of the faucet seems simple, need to rule out every possible problems.

What do you mean by "bypassing the disruptor"?
1) Do i need to disassemble the 3nos of housing ? For this method, i do not have the individual connections to install back individually.
2) Just take out the Disruptor and Carbon's cartridges from the housing to check on the flow on the faucet.

As i've re-cleaned the filter couple of times, i'll not need the label. Simple as ABC. Anyway, thanks for the offer.
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post Aug 18 2020, 08:16 PM

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Great & Excellent customer service.
Now our flow rate are good. From the previous of <1.95L/min to ~2.7L/min.
That's a whopping ~40% increase of flow rate.
Thank to Ervin for the meticulous checking of the filter system which takes a few hard working hours for him to increase the ~40% of the flow rate.
The increment of 40% might not seems much for some one but for us it's sure a big factor.

Once again would like to give a thumb up ๐Ÿ‘ to Hestati & his humble & polite technical Ervin for their assistance in this. Kudos.
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post May 18 2021, 07:54 PM

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Niceee Need to order the re-placement for Disruptor filter cartridges with the New V2 filter soon

Since I'm using quite heavily on filter water for rising, cooking and boiling, how do we as a consumer gauge the life span of the New upgraded stage 1 filter ?

It's rated 7,000 liters and I'm wondering are there any indication of the end of life filtering capacity?
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QUOTE(hestati @ Jun 10 2023, 08:27 PM)
Some of you are now getting grey stage 2 instead of old red one. It is a free upgrade for us by the supplier that we pass to you. Basically the supplier approached us and said that we are the inly ones using the cartridge without the carbon layer but with the silver impregnation. So they suggested that we switch to the configuration with additional carbon layer for the same price, which we gladly accepted.  Additional layer should help with taste/odor and help the main carbon too. I would not call it V2/V3 upgrade,  since it is not that significant, but nevertheless, it makes the product better.
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The New Disruptor (Grey), Is it with Carbon layer and Silver impregnation or just with additional Carbon layer?

 

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