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TSReVolVolution
post Apr 22 2018, 06:59 PM, updated 6 months ago

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I’m giving my feedback here to those who are contemplating on getting either Yokohama Fleva V701 OR Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2. Hence, allow me to give my 2 pennies worth as I have used BOTH tyres!

Yokohama Fleva V701 (used for 1 year, below 7K kms)
- quietness 5/10
It’s quite quiet at first when you install (I do mean quite only) but the tyre noise gets louder as the tyre ages to the point where the tyres are no longer considered as QUIET tyres as most people proclaims.

- grip 5/10
Did some rounds to GENTING and the tyres just squeals as almost every corner. Not so confidence here.

- wet grip 7/10
Well, perhaps it shines here but not by much as I didn’t encounter any aquaplanning.

- comfort 6.5/10
Because of the stiffer side walls (at least to my point of view) the comfort is sacrificed a little here.

Overall 5.5/10
With the price below the premium tyres such as PS4 etc, it’s quite predictable that you don’t expect much from these tyres. What annoys me the most is the tyre noise. I used to use S drive last time and I had to change the tyres after 2K kms because of the unbearable road noise. I must say that these Fleva which is a replacement of S drive is not much better.



Hankook Ventus V12evo2 K120 (used for 6 months, below 4K kms)
- quietness 8/10
Now I know that some test shown that the Fleva and V12 dB is about the same but I feel that the V12s are much quieter tyres.

- grip 7/10
Good grip no drama here. Although I have not tried going up GENTING but I did a high speed test and it performs well.

- wet grip 7/10
Although some users commented that these tyres don’t perform well in wet, I believe it’s about the same as Fleva. So, am satisfied with it.

- comfort 7.5/10
The side walls are perhaps a tad less stiff than Fleva. Hence, comfort is better. It absorbs uneven roads better.

Overall 7.5/10
I’m comparing both Fleva and V12s here and I find that the V12s are a tad cheaper than Fleva but it performs much better than Fleva. Therefore, I would recommend buyers who are in a dilemma on choosing V12s or Fleva, just go for V12s.


Disclaimer : My comments above is based on my own personal usage and is not paid by any companies to promote or discuss on their tyres. icon_rolleyes.gif


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kencha
post Apr 22 2018, 07:20 PM

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I do agree with that the V12E2 is an Underdog that quite alot ppl out there skeptical about it. Its a true performer and best bang for every single cents...

Thought of give it a try over my car stock Continental initially and never thought its such good, now second set on my car and changed my wife's car over to this as well.


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post Apr 22 2018, 10:01 PM

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I also v12 evo2 user. Then only cons i found so far is the aquaplanning. Other than that I'm satisfied with the tyre. Wet handling are great.
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post Apr 23 2018, 09:15 AM

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v12 evo2 user too for 2 years. quiet, grips well, comfort. WHAT YOU WANT SOME MORE?
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post Apr 23 2018, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(katz79 @ Apr 22 2018, 10:01 PM)
I also v12 evo2 user. Then only cons i found so far is the aquaplanning. Other than that I'm satisfied with the tyre. Wet handling are great.
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Thinking of replacing my Potenza RE003 with V12 Evo2. But you are saying that wet handling is great but its cons is aquaplaning. I thought aquaplaning happens when driving on wet road.
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post Apr 23 2018, 12:50 PM

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any idea which shop still have stock for V12 Evo2 size 205 55 16?

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SweetLem0n
post Apr 23 2018, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(balsa12 @ Apr 23 2018, 12:50 PM)
any idea which shop still have stock for V12 Evo2 size 205 55 16?
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Same here, looking for same size as you.
I asked around, most of the shops are out of stock.

Only one tyre shop has stock but offer RM327 per tyre....
Now still looking around for cheaper price.
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post Apr 23 2018, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(SweetLem0n @ Apr 23 2018, 05:04 PM)
Same here, looking for same size as you.
I asked around, most of the shops are out of stock.

Only one tyre shop has stock but offer RM327 per tyre....
Now still looking around for cheaper price.
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PM me. my friend got ready stock and price is better than RM327.

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6UE5T
post Apr 23 2018, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 22 2018, 06:59 PM)
I’m giving my feedback here to those who are contemplating on getting either Yokohama Fleva V701 OR Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2. Hence, allow me to give my 2 pennies worth as I have used BOTH tyres!

Yokohama Fleva V701 (used for 1 year, below 7K kms)
- quietness 5/10
It’s quite quiet at first when you install (I do mean quite only) but the tyre noise gets louder as the tyre ages to the point where the tyres are no longer considered as QUIET tyres as most people proclaims.

- grip 5/10
Did some rounds to GENTING and the tyres just squeals as almost every corner. Not so confidence here.

- wet grip 7/10
Well, perhaps it shines here but not by much as I didn’t encounter any aquaplanning.

- comfort 6.5/10
Because of the stiffer side walls (at least to my point of view) the comfort is sacrificed a little here.

Overall 5.5/10
With the price below the premium tyres such as PS4 etc, it’s quite predictable that you don’t expect much from these tyres. What annoys me the most is the tyre noise. I used to use S drive last time and I had to change the tyres after 2K kms because of the unbearable road noise. I must say that these Fleva which is a replacement of S drive is not much better.
Hankook Ventus V12evo2 K120 (used for 6 months, below 4K kms)
- quietness 8/10
Now I know that some test shown that the Fleva and V12 dB is about the same but I feel that the V12s are much quieter tyres.

- grip 7/10
Good grip no drama here. Although I have not tried going up GENTING but I did a high speed test and it performs well.

- wet grip 7/10
Although some users commented that these tyres don’t perform well in wet, I believe it’s about the same as Fleva. So, am satisfied with it.

- comfort 7.5/10
The side walls are perhaps a tad less stiff than Fleva. Hence, comfort is better. It absorbs uneven roads better.

Overall 7.5/10
I’m comparing both Fleva and V12s here and I find that the V12s are a tad cheaper than Fleva but it performs much better than Fleva. Therefore, I would recommend buyers who are in a dilemma on choosing V12s or Fleva, just go for V12s.
Disclaimer : My comments above is based on my own personal usage and is not paid by any companies to promote or discuss on their tyres.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Nice reviews! thumbsup.gif I'm using the V12E2 now but not eager to try the Fleva as I already suspected it would not be as good, so finally somebody confirms what I thought so too. The Fleva also has not done well (or even bad) in the limited tests that was done on it in Europe (by Autobild). Considering the price though I'd score the V12E2 higher than yours, maybe somewhere around 8-8.5. smile.gif
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(SZaid @ Apr 23 2018, 12:17 PM)
Thinking of replacing my Potenza RE003 with V12 Evo2. But you are saying that wet handling is great but its cons is aquaplaning. I thought aquaplaning happens when driving on wet road.
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Aquaplaning resistance is just 1 aspect of wet performance, which is how the tire behaves when going thru some water puddles. This is usually determined by the treads where those that have many cuts and big water grooves should perform better on this area but consequently sacrifices dry grip as there are less rubber blocks to contact the road and the blocks are also have more movement under load. Narrower tires also will give better aquaplaning resistance than wider ones.

Then there is also wet grip and behavior on wet roads when there's no water puddles. Most of the time when driving on wet roads, you don't often go thru water puddles right? So this handling behavior is also as important if not more. Usually this is achieved more by the compound and probably construction too that allow to grip on wet surfaces better. Higher performance tires usually excel in this area even though some are able to mix/combine both almost equally. Last time PS3 was well known to be excellent or the best at aquaplaning resistance BUT not necessarily the best also at wet handling when got not water puddles, and then certainly was not the best at ultimate dry performance (coz it has big water grooves making the contact patch lesser). Then PS4 now improves on that, trying to maintain the overall wet performance while improving the dry performance. I'm using the V12E2 and also PS3, and IMHO the V12E2 is superior in almost all areas to the PS3 except just the aquaplaning resistance. Your RE003 is more focused towards dry performance as you can see it has more bog tread blocks with even less water grooves. The V12E2 should be better than the RE003 in this area.

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post Apr 24 2018, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 23 2018, 10:50 PM)
Nice reviews!  thumbsup.gif  I'm using the V12E2 now but not eager to try the Fleva as I already suspected it would not be as good, so finally somebody confirms what I thought so too.  The Fleva also has not done well (or even bad) in the limited tests that was done on it in Europe (by Autobild).  Considering the price though I'd score the V12E2 higher than yours, maybe somewhere around 8-8.5. smile.gif
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Wow.. 8-8.5 is quite high. biggrin.gif

Have you compared the v12s vs other makes?
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post Apr 24 2018, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 24 2018, 07:39 PM)
Wow.. 8-8.5 is quite high.  biggrin.gif

Have you compared the v12s vs other makes?
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Yes, so far I have used these: the old Michelin Pilot Preceda and PS3, Goodyear F1D5 & F1A2, Continental CSC3 & 5, and this V12E2. The best one I'd say still the CSC5 but this V12E2 along with the F1A2 follow very close already and I'd rate the V12E2 better than the rest overall, even PS3.
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post Apr 25 2018, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(balsa12 @ Apr 23 2018, 12:50 PM)
any idea which shop still have stock for V12 Evo2 size 205 55 16?
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can try look for kok at shah alam 0166555122
saw the price about rm 290-295 i believe.
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post Apr 26 2018, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 24 2018, 08:53 PM)
Yes, so far I have used these: the old Michelin Pilot Preceda and PS3, Goodyear F1D5 & F1A2, Continental CSC3 & 5, and this V12E2. The best one I'd say still the CSC5 but this V12E2 along with the F1A2 follow very close already and I'd rate the V12E2 better than the rest overall, even PS3.
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Good range of tyres bro. I've tried RE003, PS3, MC5, Primacy, Eagle F1Asym, etc.

I think this V12s are quieter than RE003 and PS3. Eagle F1 is nice but I don't trust their quality since it had sidewall cracks after 3 years or so. Whereas, PS3 is good but there are complaints (which I experienced) that the tyres just 'shredded" off. Hence, quality is questionable.
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post Apr 26 2018, 11:02 AM

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Go for PS3 and the first thing i notice with tyre size 195/55/15 is, its wobble quite bad.. but the grip is there..
I think with low profile tyre will surely decrease the wobble effect..
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post Apr 26 2018, 11:18 AM

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Why don't they make the K120 in 185 5516?!
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post Apr 26 2018, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 26 2018, 10:16 AM)
Good range of tyres bro. I've tried RE003, PS3, MC5, Primacy, Eagle F1Asym, etc.

I think this V12s are quieter than RE003 and PS3. Eagle F1 is nice but I don't trust their quality since it had sidewall cracks after 3 years or so. Whereas, PS3 is good but there are complaints (which I experienced) that the tyres just 'shredded" off. Hence, quality is questionable.
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Yes agree, that the V12E2 is quitter than PS3 and surprisingly silent for UHP tires. As for F1, well I used my F1D5 until really finished, no issues whatsoever and very reliable with only some chipping like PS3 when driven hard. For my current F1A2 also not yet any issues so far and the tires is already like 50%. PS3 as I said, also have chipping issues (or maybe what you called as 'shredded'), but nothing serious as the tires still perform well. Honestly for me, practically ALL my tires will have chipping! laugh.gif Just a matter of how severe only whereby the F1D5 & PS3 are a bit more while F1A2, V12E2, and CSC3/5 not as much.
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Just replaced the CSC 5s on my v40 with the K120. When roiling on fresh tarmac, the tyre noise is absent and even on highway, tyre roar is relatively lower compared to recording of the CSC 5 i made before i switched. And the crashiness of the CSC 5 when going over rough road conditions is gone, maybe due to the softer sidewall?
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Apr 26 2018, 11:28 AM)
Just replaced the CSC 5s on my v40 with the K120. When roiling on fresh tarmac, the tyre noise is absent and even on highway, tyre roar is relatively lower compared to recording of the CSC 5 i made before i switched. And the crashiness of the CSC 5 when going over rough road conditions is gone, maybe due to the softer sidewall?
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Yeah V12E2 seems to have softer sidewall than CSC5. I feel it's similar with PS3 and F1.
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post Apr 26 2018, 01:48 PM

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Agreed with TS on advan Fleva dry grip, disappointed with it. My previous tyre was Re003, much better on dry grip but lose in wet compare to Fleva. Sidewall of Re003 are more aggresive than fleva which more suit with my car. I feel fleva's sidewall already too soft for my car, thus, V12E2 sidewall are too soft?

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