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Inquiry about MOT &MOC (new strata titles 2016)
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TSJASON_01
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Apr 21 2018, 11:38 AM, updated 8y ago
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Hi all,
I would like to inquiry about charge of MOT & MOC. Regarding to THE STRATA TITLES (AMENDMENT) ACT 2016, do i need to pay MOT & MOC after get VP? cause my condo is still under construction and completing by end of this year/ 1st quarter of 2019. based on my simply calculation and MOT & MOC cost around RM18K++...
i need sifu help izit must pay MOT fee first after VP even though is still under master titles or it should wait after few year when developer transferred master title to strata title only pay it? Usually how long period to transfer the strata titles? Cause i not understand about the new amended strata titles act 2016. when i ask lawyer and this lawyer seem like junior (Developer lawyer) and quite blur and cant give exactly answer.
My estimation calculation as following below: Purchase Price: RM650,000
A.) MOT: Stamp duty 1st (1% X RM100K) = RM1,000 Next (2% X RM400K)= RM 8,000 500K+(3%XRM150K)= RM 4,500 __________________________ MOT Stamp Duty = RM13,500 __________________________
B.) MOT Legal Fees: 1st (1%X RM500K) =RM5,000 Next (0.8%X RM150K) =RM1,200 ___________________________ Total legal fees = RM6,200 (Discount 75%) = RM4,650 ___________________________ Total legal fees = RM1,550 ___________________________
C.) Others Disbursement fees = RM 1,000 (Estimation) ___________________________ Total fees = RM1,000 ___________________________
MOT= A+B+C = RM16,050.00
D.) MOC (Bank charge): 1st (1%X RM500K) = RM 5,000 Next(0.8%XRM150K) = RM 1,200 ___________________________ Total MOC = RM6,072 (Discount 75%) = RM4,650 ___________________________ Total MOC = RM1,550 ___________________________
E.) Others: Disbursement fees = RM500 (Estimation) ___________________________ Total Others = RM500 ___________________________
MOC= D + E= RM2,050.00
TOTAL PAID: A+B+C+D+E= RM18,100.00
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TSJASON_01
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Apr 23 2018, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 23 2018, 01:04 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
you'll only need to pay the MOT & MOC charges only once the title is issued. how long is the period is subjective.. usually between 2-4 years after VP (for cases prior to 2015/2016) for newer projects should be faster.. within 1-2years after VP (or sometimes even upon VP) but this new scenario yet to encounter because it affects residential projects launched approx after 2016 (under the new HDA S&P). If the project is launched on 2015, start selling on 2016, izit consider under new HDA? when i signed on S&P on Mar'18 which under master title and i paid approximately RM4k++ for stamp loan & disbursement fees. if really get titles upon VP then i have to pay MOT immediately? plus i need pay more for MOC even is use same lawyer to get 75% discount (began paid 4K on loan stamp & Disbursement). Sound like not worth to buy undercon as need pay more for hidden cost...if developer did not provide free for S&P agreement during undercon, it will more costly
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TSJASON_01
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Apr 23 2018, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 23 2018, 05:31 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
its not hidden cost, it's just that property buyers are not properly informed on the total costs involved. if launch in 2015 it's very likely it'll be under old HDA. so expect the title to be out maybe 2-3years after VP. even if the title is out, by law you're supposed to transfer the title within 30 days the title is issued. however in practice majority of owners will delay until they have enough cash on hand to do the transfer. There is penalty for delaying the MOT transfer but so far i've yet to encounter anyone kena before. if wait for 2-3year after VP is quite ok for me at least got time for saving. cause spend need spend alot money for do renovation + furniture. i just worry about get title upon VP then really gg.com...so far do have any cases project get transferred titles upon VP?
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TSJASON_01
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Apr 24 2018, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(hhho @ Apr 23 2018, 09:07 PM) Yes, that's happening to this CITIZEN @ OLD KLANG ROAD BY BINASTRA LAND (VER 2) see post#927 & 928 https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3748815/+920Thx for your info...i think im gonna die cause didn't expect need pay MOT & MOC within 30days when get VP...i think my case is may same as above posted. my lawyer seem like blur when i asking about this issue cause it is developer lawyer and this lawyer is junior (may not experience)...
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TSJASON_01
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Apr 25 2018, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 24 2018, 12:52 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
in practical sense, there are 80-90% purchasers delay this. even if u delay more than 30 days.. or 1 year.. so far nobody kena penalty before. so u can just chill and relax, spend ur money on furniture and reno first.. transfer title can come later (but dont wait too long later developer zaplap then u lagi jialat). Ya... I hope developer will be delay for few year as i purchase for own stay instead of investment. when i sign S&P that lawyer told me is following new strata titles act 2016.. but another lawyer told me is under old act since is launch on 2015. developer gt 2 panel lawyers....confusing
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TSJASON_01
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Apr 25 2018, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 25 2018, 10:30 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
check clause 30(4).. does it mention "developer lawyer" and state the lawyer name there. if it does, then it's under new HDA. strata act and HDA is different thing. what is mean by New HDA? seem like many things have to learn it cause im newbie and first time buy it ><
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