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Servicing stock absorbers
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TSmingyuyu
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Apr 17 2018, 04:16 PM, updated 8y ago
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Hi good afternoon everyone,
I have a used jazz gd and the shocks / absorbers felt kinda weak already as the car feels floaty and the rear shocks are making the hissing noise.
What I want to know is that are stock absorbers serviceable? I read online and people said that only higher end adjustable shocks can be serviced. However in my previous ride which is the first generation persona, it had soft absorbers too and i sent the car to have the shocks serviced according to the advice of my mechanic.
Surprisingly the car did feel stiffer and don't scrape/ bottom out so easily when going through bumps. Spent rm250 for the service.
So I'm wondering if I should try the same thing with my jazz or just go for a new set of shocks?
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theanswer
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Apr 17 2018, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Apr 17 2018, 04:16 PM) Hi good afternoon everyone, I have a used jazz gd and the shocks / absorbers felt kinda weak already as the car feels floaty and the rear shocks are making the hissing noise. What I want to know is that are stock absorbers serviceable? I read online and people said that only higher end adjustable shocks can be serviced. However in my previous ride which is the first generation persona, it had soft absorbers too and i sent the car to have the shocks serviced according to the advice of my mechanic. Surprisingly the car did feel stiffer and don't scrape/ bottom out so easily when going through bumps. Spent rm250 for the service. So I'm wondering if I should try the same thing with my jazz or just go for a new set of shocks? still can. but for stock setup might as well just go for a new set.
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6UE5T
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Apr 17 2018, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Apr 17 2018, 04:16 PM) Hi good afternoon everyone, I have a used jazz gd and the shocks / absorbers felt kinda weak already as the car feels floaty and the rear shocks are making the hissing noise. What I want to know is that are stock absorbers serviceable? I read online and people said that only higher end adjustable shocks can be serviced. However in my previous ride which is the first generation persona, it had soft absorbers too and i sent the car to have the shocks serviced according to the advice of my mechanic. Surprisingly the car did feel stiffer and don't scrape/ bottom out so easily when going through bumps. Spent rm250 for the service. So I'm wondering if I should try the same thing with my jazz or just go for a new set of shocks? Can still service/repair. Why don't you just ask your mechanic where he sent your persona shocks for repair? Normally these shops can repair all kinds of shocks, not just specific car model. If you live in KL, there's a shop in Puncak Jalil called DPuncak that can do repair all kinds of shocks for pretty cheap price (not sure will last how long though). You can search them in Facebook. However you may want to check first the price of your stock Jazz shocks. Coz repairing can cost you up to rm60-100/pc, so if your stock shocks only cost like rm100-150/pc then might as well just buy new. Only if your stock shocks are much more expensive then repairing might be considered.
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TSmingyuyu
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Apr 17 2018, 08:21 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys, actually my mechanic just recommended me the shop and I sent my persona there by myself last time.
Glad to know that it is actually fixable.
I checked around and a new set of absorbers (front and back) for jazz is around 700-800 for stock ones. So if it can be set serviced for around 300 then I think it is worth it. Because I don't see any leaking around the absorbers, but they just felt a little weak and not as sensitive through smaller chatters.
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dares
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Apr 18 2018, 12:07 AM
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Yes can be serviced/repaired, but with the caveats below :
- You will not get back the same stiffness as stock, because the shops use their own oil which have different viscosity from the stock absorbers. The shop that 6UEST suggested offered 3 stiffness settings the last time I went.
- Not all can be repaired, depending on the parts that are worn. If the seals are gone or something inside came loose, they will need to dismantle and overhaul it, which will be a pricey affair. My friend tried to repair his front shocks at Dpuncak, but once they drain out the oil they can hear something moving inside when the shake it. They said it was not reparable and my friend had to order new stock shocks and had them delivered to Dpuncak for installation.
- If you go for higher stiffness, your valve seals will not last long (even if they are still in good condition) as they may not be spec-ed to handle the pressure of the higher viscosity oil.
If brand new sets of shocks costs RM700-800, I advise that you get the new shocks. I am pretty sure they will last longer than servicing your worn shocks.
This post has been edited by dares: Apr 18 2018, 12:10 AM
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amad108
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Apr 18 2018, 10:29 AM
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While for my case.. I did inject my absorber last time due to lowered it using Eibach sport spring.. The reason i inject my absorber is the absorber only suitable with stock spring height, when lowered the absorber cant function at its best.. the effectiveness become lesser.. its always bouncing when i drove on highway
So after i injected and hardened the absorber bounce rate to match the sport spring rate, it become more stable on highway and the absorbing process much more better.. it does absorb small vibration while maintaining the body..
The cons of doing injected absorber is, the oil seal that have been long use before become more stressful compare before.. so the pressure will attack most weak spot.. after sometimes i use, the absorber leaking at the oil seal near the absorb shaft.. So the solution is, better get the short stroke absorber or adjustable if u really want to lowered the vehicle..
For stock absorber with stock spring, my suggestion just buy a new set.. both absorber and spring, because spring also effected after using it for a very long time.. the spring becomes weaker and weaker..
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6UE5T
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Apr 18 2018, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(amad108 @ Apr 18 2018, 10:29 AM) ... For stock absorber with stock spring, my suggestion just buy a new set.. both absorber and spring, because spring also effected after using it for a very long time.. the spring becomes weaker and weaker.. Springs are very strong and takes a very long time to get weak/spoiled, unless maybe you always put heavy loads in the car. In over 30 years of owning/maintaining several cars, I never ever need to replace the stock springs, just replace the absorbers many times. I only replace springs if I want it lower and stiffer.
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outpace
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Apr 18 2018, 07:24 PM
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so it's not called "service",but is to inject oil to stiffen it.
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loui
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Apr 19 2018, 03:18 PM
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tumpang thread
replacing my BLM 2009 absorber
workshop quote me RM120 for labour fees of changing all 4
is it reasonable?
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therain01
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Apr 19 2018, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(loui @ Apr 19 2018, 03:18 PM) tumpang thread replacing my BLM 2009 absorber workshop quote me RM120 for labour fees of changing all 4 is it reasonable? No. Rm25/ each for front. Rm20/each or less for rear. That's standard. Front could takes some time, for rear, lazy foreman don't even bother to remove the tyre.
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rompers
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Sep 10 2021, 09:16 PM
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Sorry for necro-ing this thread, but would like to ask TS or anyone else who had experience getting their Factory-Stock or OEM absorbers 'serviced' (or more accurately, injected with oil/fluids).
Any indication, based upon your own experience OR experience of those kaki-kereta friends around you, on how long the 'serviced' absorbers would last under normal/usual driving conditions?
Many thanks in advance for your time and response.
This post has been edited by rompers: Sep 10 2021, 09:17 PM
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Balanced
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Sep 11 2021, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(rompers @ Sep 10 2021, 09:16 PM) Sorry for necro-ing this thread, but would like to ask TS or anyone else who had experience getting their Factory-Stock or OEM absorbers 'serviced' (or more accurately, injected with oil/fluids). Any indication, based upon your own experience OR experience of those kaki-kereta friends around you, on how long the 'serviced' absorbers would last under normal/usual driving conditions? Many thanks in advance for your time and response. Mine lasted 3 years after service, pump new oil make around 10-15% harden than ori. On stock spring.
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rompers
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Sep 11 2021, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 11 2021, 12:29 AM) Mine lasted 3 years after service, pump new oil make around 10-15% harden than ori. On stock spring. So, 3 years after servicing (i.e. injection of new oil), the shock absorbers went kaput and was no longer servicable again, thus requiring replacement?
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Balanced
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Sep 11 2021, 02:13 AM
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QUOTE(rompers @ Sep 11 2021, 01:55 AM) So, 3 years after servicing (i.e. injection of new oil), the shock absorbers went kaput and was no longer servicable again, thus requiring replacement? I am not sure if can service again, probably can by changing the seals and re-inject the oil. I bought adjustable after that but regretted because too hard for me even at softest settings haha. The next set (3rd set) I mix a bit. Rear I reinject new stock absorbers (harder around 15%) + stock spring and front absorbers I rebuilt my adjustable for comfort + adjustable spring. Bestest setting, lowered, good handling + comfort. Lasted over 3 years till I sold the car still good.
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