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post Aug 10 2007, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(slash @ Aug 10 2007, 09:02 AM)
depends on the user. u have to see it in their context. those with sidepanel fans, stock for them would mean just plugging the card in, closing the panel, and getting the readings. anyway shawty already listed out how he ran the card, and i listed my temps in comparison with his. So TomatomanzSeedlezz can just read and interpret the results accordingly. He said he's in the market for a card for his bro, and shawty is just trumpeting (albeit loudly) the pros of the colorful UE, which is kinda true and is a star buy for anyone looking for a midrange card.
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Which is why i said it really depends on how that particular person interprets what "stock" means..Anyway, 50c+ is indeed a nice temperature.

Anyway, i am just helping to clarify the matter here. No harm done right..LOL..

About the trumpeting stuff, well, i am not going to go into that matter cause AFAIK, IF the GC is good, everyone would know even though no one is promoting it. Good stuff will be known all around and people here could judge wisely..For eg, even i am one that doesnt really support Colorful products are saying that the UE is good. smile.gif

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post Aug 12 2007, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Aug 12 2007, 01:37 AM)
my 8600GT UE when 1st install, off aircon,fully stock, no thermal paste, no side panel fan. only casing front 2x 8mm fan, rear 4x 8mm fan.
idle 55* , load 72*
feel surpise and thought something goes wrong with my card when compare with u guys temp. 
but after reading carefully only know u guys put thermal paste + 120mm fan
so...must read carefully ppl's post...

managed to test with my amd 3000+ 2400mhz rig, this rig is for working purpose so alot bloatware but after overclock the graphic card still manage to get 3dmark05 10227, 3dmark06 4626.
not yet test on e6600 .
for this price, grab it if u looking for 8600 series card... rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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LOL..Not no thermal paste. Just using stock thermal paste. smile.gif

Anyway, nice card there. Looks so good in term of 3D Mark as well... rclxms.gif
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post Aug 13 2007, 08:29 AM

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Just tried some minor OCing on my MSI 8800GTS yesterday. Upped the speed from 575/850 to 600/900 and i got extra 4k on 3D Mark03. Temperature is roughly the same as well. Performance wise, its just roughly the same..LOL...

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 12 2007, 06:56 PM)
Good question, i've been asking the same question to myself too.
Weird why they put so much TIM on the core.

All 8800 that i've used are the same, 8800GTS 640MB, 8800GTX, 8800Ultra, all same, even my 2900XT also they apply so much TIM. rclxub.gif
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In this case bro, do you think its better to reapply the TIM for 8800?Have you seen the one on the 320MB before?Are they overapplied?

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 12 2007, 11:39 PM)
Duhh, offcourse lar.
8500 is the lowest end GC from Nvidia 8XXX series. laugh.gif

While 8600 is Mid End liao. smile.gif
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There is still 8400 IIRC.. smile.gif

QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ Aug 13 2007, 01:41 AM)
Eh guys... the difference gap between 8800GTS and 8800GTX. Is it big?? Suddenly I got some naughty idea to change my GTS to GTX. Do you guys think its worth it??
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If i were you, i will go straight towards the 8800Ultra (IF you really desperate to get something better). Dont think you will see too much difference between the GTS and GTX on your 22" though unless you are getting this uber high resolutions one like 27" and 30"...
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post Aug 13 2007, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 13 2007, 08:42 AM)
Yes.
You should apply, but remember, if you want to open the heatsink, do take a look on where did they put the warranty sticker.
If the put it on top of some screws, don't bother opening the heatsink else you might screw the warranty. laugh.gif

Allo brother, if 8800GTS 640MB, 8800GTX & 8800 Ultra all got overapplied, what makes you think the 8800GTS 320MB could run from overapplied? laugh.gif
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LOL...My warranty sticker is already off from the PCB. Dont know why it came off but still in one piece. So dont think there will be any problem to take out the screws..LOL..

How much difference does it make though if i reapply the TIM?
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post Aug 13 2007, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 13 2007, 09:08 AM)
Well, for starters, when i change the TIM on my 8800GTS 640MB, [Core only] the temps goes down from 57°C to 52°C.
Owh, did i state that time i was using only MX-1?

Just imagine what temps you will be getting if you replace the stock TIM to MX-2. brows.gif

Owh, for 8800, you can't use the rice grain method of reapplying TIM, because it uses IHS, and the IHS is way bigger than a processor's IHS, you'll have to spread it by yourself.

Apply a thin layer of TIM and remember to spread it, as we don't know where does the core of G80 were placed under the IHS, and we don't know how big is the core, so it's better to spread the TIM.
Not like processor, the core sits on the middle under the IHS, so it's not a problem to place a rice grain size of TIM and let the HSF spread the TIM by itself.

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Forgot to tell you, the HSF is rather hard to be opened, so the best way to take out the HSF is by opening the HSF quickly after running some heavy games as the card is still hot and the TIM is still in liquid form, so it's best to take out the HSF when it is still hot. smile.gif
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Thanks for the info there bro. As off now, i might either use the MX-1 or AS5 as i already have them in hand. MX-2, i have still yet to get it..LOL..

Need to change it quickly eh..I might not be that swift though..LOL..I will check and see how hard is it though. In this case, can i blow it using hair dryer if its too hard? Or must plug into system to run it first?
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post Aug 13 2007, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 13 2007, 12:05 PM)
FYI, I m using 8500 DDR3
I read one of the topic (1+ month ago, someone ask 7300 or 8500 , most lowyater recommend 8500)

I insist 8500 DDR3 better than 7300 rclxms.gif ,

Shawty, my 8500 cost me RM 355, add RM50, & get from u 8600GT...
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Well, yea, during that time, many people would recommend the 8500GT. This is because both cards are having roughly the same price and yet, the 8500GT is offering an advantage in being DX10 capable. Even i would recommend the 8500GT. Performance wise, i think the 8500GT is slightly better than the 7300GT. But not sure how OCable are they. 7300GT are solid overclockers and may even surpass the 8500GT when OCed..
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post Aug 13 2007, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 13 2007, 02:25 PM)
Hair dryer can produce static charges, thus, it can kill your graphic card easily.

Nope, i did that to all my GC even when i'm on AGP, why?
Because it's easier to plug out the HSF while it's hot as the TIM is on liquid form, not in hardened mode.

The core will get damaged easier when you plug out the HSF when the TIM is hardened. smile.gif
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Ic, thanks alot. I will test it out and see how much difference does it make. To clarify things better, how many screws i should remove to remove the cooler?
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post Aug 13 2007, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 13 2007, 02:57 PM)
Every single screws that you can find on the back of the card and at the PCI metal cover. laugh.gif
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LOL...OK.Thanks alot bro.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(slash @ Aug 13 2007, 04:54 PM)
LOL I took out the hsf for my 8600gt w/o warming up the TIM. Too impatient. Waited 2 weeks to get the card and cant wait to get the pc setup. The only tough part for me was scrapping the yellow TIM off the core and heatsink. Yes, i used a small flat-head screwdriver and slowly scrap the TIM off. Didnt occur to me to use something plastic. -.-

Another method could be to set the fan to spin at the lowest speed. Then load a game, play for a min, then shut down pc and remove the hsf. That way the heatsink wont be cooled so fast.
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Well, if i can remove the HSF from the core, i guess i would have no problem to scrap the TIM off right?I can do that using the Arctic Cleaners right?
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post Aug 15 2007, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Aug 15 2007, 02:07 AM)
the GDEX packaging??? there isnt any...

i bought the card from karom...and hes the one who put the card into the big box (which happens to be a mineral water carton) and added in the styrofoam himself. so it was karom that put the extra effort into the packaging..not GDEX (recommended seller by the way thumbup.gif)

as for results... can go to the 3D Mark database in OC United. VT-Ten has almost the same rig as mine except that hes using XFX 8800GTS 320MB XXX Edition cards for SLI.

my results will have to wait...superbly busy right now...no time to setup...now oso still in office doh.gif

i hate massive amounts of work with tight deadlines...........
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I am more interested in the temperature level of both card running in SLI. I remember last time (i think its arc_archive, sorry if i were wrong) that he is having trouble running BFG 8800GTS OC on SLI and temperature increases by about 10c.
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post Aug 15 2007, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 15 2007, 11:37 AM)
My place only got Enermax, CM, Acbel, ICute ,Power Logic ,ATRIX, PSU
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Well, i guess you got no choice but to resort to either one or pay for shipment.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 15 2007, 04:45 PM)
@LExus65, u also bought Strider 56F at rm320 at myPC? I wonder if the pricing still the same... I hope this psu will last for the next couple of graphic card generations..
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OT: LOL..I got mine from MyPC as well at that price tongue.gif
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post Aug 17 2007, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ Aug 17 2007, 02:22 AM)
laugh.gif

Relax mate... it's not like those games will also straight away use the new features anyway. It shud take times for that... and by that time.. most of use here might already change to the next gen card...  laugh.gif
If there's a plan of upgrading... just go with it. At least for me.. I don't feel sad or have any regret at all since my 6800GT is too weak to play most games already... so it is a good investment for me... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I agree with your point there.

At least i know my investment now is allowing me to play most of the games at maximum details i can have at the moment. Well, this card might still last quite a while before DX10.1 is fully utilize. The waiting game will never be over if you feel you wanted to wait for DX10.1.


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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Aug 17 2007, 11:57 AM)
yala, my MSI 8800GTS also registering 60°C~70°C on idle while 90°C~95°C on load... but still the card's kicking at its best laugh.gif, did i must tell you again, don't worry... the card can "tahan" 150°C without problem... besides, most of 8800 series user here XP-ing same temperature what...
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Aiks?You have bought a GTS already?

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post Aug 18 2007, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Aug 18 2007, 03:36 AM)
8800 owner why cry??? just change again lor... IF ther's such thing as 9800gtx... biasa lar... that's the trend mar...
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Yea, i understand what you mean here. If thats the case where people is waiting for the 9800GTX, claiming its 2X faster than current ones, wait till its released. Then people will say "oh, its expensive, wait a lil longer" and then, goes another rumour saying "wah, 18000GTX is 2X faster and keep on waiting..

I say, savor what you have now, enjoy every bit of your money spent because technology will only grow. It will not wait for you to have money first...



About the PSU, i am not sure about the requirements but i had successfully powered up my 8800GTS using CM Real Power 450Watt before. I did remember someone posting before stating even the CM Extreme Power 430Watt is able to power it up. How reliable, that i am not sure though..
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Aug 20 2007, 09:50 AM)
i need someone help,my new GC 8500 silent.just install it but yesterday i let go the pc run from midnight until morning(BT)..n my screen show out(no signal  detect)but cpu is  still running..
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I always had this problem since having a DX10 card (aka 8800GTS) and combo it with an LCD using DVI adapter.

What happen is, IF i were to turn my PC on for a long time, it will tell me that my LCD will be entering energy saving mode and can never be turned back on. I personally am not sure about what might be the problem.

All you can do is to turn your PC off and restart it. Only that way is going to return your PC to normal..

My way of solving this problem :

Down to none as i am not sure about the source. However, this is what i did and do help me in countering the problem there.

- First of all, go to your Power Management screen in your Control Panel.

- Go to the part that shows : Turn off Monitor in XXX minutes.

- Select NEVER for the option.


From there, i did solve the problem about the Entering Energy Saving mode and no signal detected. Besides that, you may want to go to the screen saver screen and uncheck the "use password on resume from screen saver" thingy. Not sure it will be able to help you or not but it did solve my problem a lil bit..
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Aug 20 2007, 10:18 AM)
another question
when i enter asus 8500gt manual it show out(please install service pack before open this)..how ha?
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Update your OS i guess..LOL..

Anyway, regarding this problem, i am personally not sure what might be the problem here. Maybe i could email nVidia and see whether they realise this problem or not..

Anyone having this problem when on LCD + 8series GC + DVI adapter?
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Aug 20 2007, 12:21 PM)
Nope, 8800GTX + Vista + DVI + Dell 228WFP. I disabled all the energy saving options, so the monitor never turns off.
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I only have the problems IF my PC have the energy saving options especially the option for turning off monitor after certain time. When i change the setting to "never", i did not face the problem again..


QUOTE(ianho @ Aug 20 2007, 04:33 PM)
I set my monitor to turn off after 10 minutes. After the monitor goes off, I sumtimes haf problem in turning it back on by just moving the mouse which shud turn it back on immediately. What I hafta do is manually switch the monitor on n off using the power button on the monitor n then swinging the mouse around n the monitor wakes up after that. I dunno if it's specific to my set up or not though coz I'm using Apple monitors.
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Well, i personally tested that before and it doesn't work. Even changing the auto detect mode to specific DVI mode also does not solve the problem. All i can do is turn off the PC and start it again in order for the display to show things again. Which makes me wonder what might the problem be here...
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post Aug 21 2007, 08:27 AM

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Hows the temperature of the SLIed card?
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post Aug 22 2007, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 22 2007, 12:41 AM)
i saw that before too... No watercooling one. Wonder how high the temp go..
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There is single slot 8800? Never seen it before sweat.gif
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