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 LYN Proton X70 SUV Owners and Fans Thread V1!, It's in the Drive... Siram Siram!

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post Feb 23 2020, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Feb 23 2020, 12:46 AM)
Thanks, love the sunroof 😊
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my roof curtain is always on. I like a airy cabin. But obviously well tinted to to prevent heat from coming in
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post Feb 23 2020, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ Feb 23 2020, 11:56 AM)
Why IHBC always turn off after off car?
Mean I always need to on manually if i want auto high beam?

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Even if the menu shows it’s off, if you switch you light stalk to auto, the intelligent high beam will work. I used it once during a dark highway stretch. It’s a nuisance for the opposite car as it slow to switch to low beam, probably the camera is not as sensitive as drivers eye. Didn’t want to blind the on coming traffic so I always operate the lights manually.
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post Feb 23 2020, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ Feb 23 2020, 05:48 PM)
Thanks for input. Just try to explore and familiar all the features. The light leveling knot also quite confusing. Like level 0 for driver, 1 for driver and passenger. Do we really need to adjust the headlight leveling base on number of passengers?

Also facing others issue like cant download theme and wallpaper. Still unable link to Proton Link app. Cant mirrorlink android phone. Current software version is laggy. Like using budget phone. Hope they will update asap to support android auto and apple car.
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I just set the light level to the highest as i need a better far vision. the other knob is to control the cabin dash light.

original version of GKUI is able to install apps. once you've updated its locked. No support for android auto as the OS is kitkat. can't support android auto unless....... For apple car play you can use china firmware. but bear in mind your proton link will not work. as for wallpaper and theme, its locked.

QUOTE(Dothan @ Feb 23 2020, 08:13 PM)
I am facing the same issues, SA told me the linkage between owner phone number and car takes 48 hours. But still not yet happen.
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should be fast during office hours.

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post Feb 27 2020, 11:11 AM

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nah, they all say white was hard to maintain, I feel its much more easier to maintain as a quick pressure washer, the car shines brighter than my future. hahaha
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post Feb 27 2020, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(virgoguy @ Feb 27 2020, 11:15 AM)
provided you wash often and avoided newly tar road
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Wash it weekly. For tar roads just us a clay to lift it up.
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post Feb 28 2020, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(yuvanesh @ Feb 28 2020, 12:26 PM)
washing it weekly seriously digging a hole into my pocket...didnt own and SUV before.. so didnt realize the increase in prices..
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once a month or once every quarter you let car wash shop to wash and vacuum for you. weekly blast it with high pressure water jet, bubble wash it, blast clean then wipe dry. saves alot of money. about fifteen washes i can get back the cost of a high pressure water jet. and another five washes would cover the cost of detergent. after 20 washes it all savings. just spend around 30 minutes a week .
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post Feb 28 2020, 06:50 PM

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replacing it is not the problem and I believe the cost is not staggering. its the calibration work which takes time and effort. You can get the scanner to set the Adas calibration, I also have it. but the jig use to tune the calibration is costly and the process takes quite sometime just to ensure a precise setting is being input.
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post Mar 2 2020, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(guoshyang @ Mar 1 2020, 10:01 PM)
Which recommended high pressure jet spray is good?
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Just get one that fits your budget. You don’t need a powerful one , and you don’t need to blast a jet stream.
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post Mar 13 2020, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Mar 12 2020, 04:01 PM)
For CKD version saw gearbox overheat message right after starting the engine in the morning, strongly suspect it is caused by faulty sensor.

Touchwood my car does not show this error. I just sent the car for 1k service and complaint suspension noise when go over bumps. SC investigated and sprayed the silicone lubricant. No more noise.

My review of my CKD Premium:
1. Very good NVH (probably the best in Proton)
2. Engine noise very minimal
3. DCT gearbox is smooth, gear change is not really noticeable. But I do practice put it to Neutral if expecting long wait in traffic. SA told me auto hold will also disengage the clutch automatically but I am not sure how true it is.
4. Mediocre sound quality from the headunit, even with Kenwood speakers and subwoofer.
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It is not due to faulty sensor. Based on what i was told CKD uses a different communication system compared to CBU. This error only surface if you press the start button 3 times to start the engine. if you just press brake and start it will never surface. Reason is when you press brake and start at one go, all the system will fire up at one instances. if you press the start button 3 times, there are delay between system module and because when one module is unable to speak to the other, error will start to pop up. it seems to me that there's no neuro network management e.g gateway that centralize and managers communication between modules like the CBU unit. CKD seems to be all standalone. Anyway, Proton is working on a firmware fix where this error will not pop up if you press the start button 3 times. In all honesty, why press the start button 3 times? you're going to confuse the hell out of the electronics. want to start just start saja.

QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Mar 12 2020, 11:00 PM)
Unnecessary stress, DONT PUT N during traffic light or jam stop if you dont want premature gearbox failure. Just use the auto hold function
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No such thing in modern transmission, its all myth.

QUOTE(Dothan @ Mar 13 2020, 07:46 AM)
I am new to DCT gear box.
I will stick to letting it in D even in traffic jam.  notworthy.gif
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you can put on any position as you like. the electronics will manage the rest. don't have to think but just drive.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 13 2020, 08:22 AM)
I just realized something regarding the aircon.

Previously, I thought the "auto" aircon function was broken because everytime I press auto, the "recirculation" function almost always turns off. And even in the manual, it stated something that air recirculation will be turned off for 20 minutes after running auto for 40 minutes. That's free exhaust poison every 40 minutes!!!!

Turns out that the aircon is indeed on automatic even without the "auto" function. I just have to set the temperature and the fan speed will adjust accordingly and later settle down once cabin temperature reached set value. On hot days, the aircon automatically speed up on startup and settles down after a while.

I guess in a way it is good as most car "auto" function also messes with the vents and sometimes direct cold air to my not hot feet!!! biggrin.gif
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post Mar 14 2020, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 13 2020, 04:20 PM)
I never knew there was a different way to start keyless cars. For x70, it is the first time I hear that you need to press the start button twice then only start the engine by pressing the brake. My wife's cx-5, just hentam start the engine. I wonder whether that's the reason the battery usually k.o. so fast.

The only reason why I think this is better than starting the engine straight away is that it will put less stress on the battery by powering up the electronics first then only the engine.

Why push 3 times? Maybe after the 2nd time, not in time to press the brakes for the 3rd press. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Mar 14 2020, 12:03 AM)
Even Proton Edar demo-ing pressing the start button 3x but this one is for 6AT


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Malaysians and their invention. Single fire and start. If you press too many times. The system wil l go haywire. I get they didn’t want to be disrespectful to the inventor of the 3 press start spearheader
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post Mar 15 2020, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 14 2020, 07:34 AM)
That's what I'm saying about the 3 press start. There must be a valid reason for it. The only I can think of is that the x70 needs to power all the electronics first before powering the starter to start the engine. Single press will put a huge load on the battery.

My cx-5 was single press for the past 7 years but I had many occasions where the battery only last 1 to 1 and a half years. Even for cars with keys, I was always taught to turn the key till all the beeps complete, then only start the car. I almost always never turn straight to ignition.
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No such thing as to single press put huge load on battery, the system has a computerized relay function. with old cars with single press start you will see the radio restart but not for modern cars anymore. 3 press on the other hand disrupts the stability of the current and disrupts the self check sequence because you do not let the ECU to control what is required. in shot your battery will die faster.

QUOTE(masterwellz @ Mar 14 2020, 03:50 PM)
Result after check, both front absorbers need to replace. Procedure need report approve first then only can issue out new absorbers. Might take 2 months to delivery.
For smelly aircond they no clue where it come from. Need to refer hq.
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Update your CCU air con. They can slow down the flaps for the air being drawn in. They cannot fully close the external air from coming in as it will cook the dashboard. Heater core is underneath our dash.

QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 15 2020, 11:00 AM)
I believe the 3 press is to allow the fuel pump to prime up the fuel pressure. I think not doing so will not harm the car, just that it may be a little harder to start compare to the 3 press.

For push start car, 1st press starts the electronic, radio and etc turns on.
2nd press starts the fuel pump and certain diagnostics (you will hear a bzzzt sound, the sound of fuel pump priming up and multiple lights lit up in your dashboard like airbag)
Technically you just need to wait till the bzzzt sound goes off (fuel pump done its job), then you can press the 3rd time to start the ignition process.

For cars with keys to ignite, 1st turn until right before ignition, will do the 2nd press (fuel pumps primes up) and once the sound is gone, we can turn the final part in the key to start ignition.

I still do this though.
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No such rubbish. we are running high impedance piezo injectors with direct injection setup not the stone age multipoint injector. The pressure is much higher compared to older cars. there is no need wait for it to build up pressure as the start sequence will allow the highspeed pump to build up the optimum pressure.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 15 2020, 12:46 PM)
Ya, I still wait for a second or two before starting the engine. Some say the first 2 press can be fast, just have to pause before starting the engine.

Just wonder why nobody ever explain the reason for the need for 3 press.
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because no manufacturer officially states the need to press 2 or 3 times. its a myth that we malaysian created. go else where around the world and the people will laugh at us.

QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 15 2020, 01:24 PM)
Well, based on what I understand, there is a fuel pump that pumps fuel and maintain fuel pressure to your engine.

In older cars, poor fuel pressure will make engine starting difficult. In modern cars, the car will maintain the fuel pressure even after you have switched off the engine. However, the fuel pressure will not maintain there indefinitely. After a certain duration (instantly for some cars, or 1 hour for others, or maybe 24 hours for certain cars), the pressure dissipates and the engine might take a little longer to start compared to when the fuel pressure is still there.

Waiting a little before the 3rd press is supposed to allow time for the fuel pump to prime up the fuel pressure to the engine, thus making engine start a little easier.

Yea I agree that the 1st 2 press can be fast (cause essentially, the 3 press step is just to allow time for the fuel pump to prime up, which occurs at the 2nd press). Skipping that 3 press should be fine if your fuel pressure is adequate and you have a very healthy engine. As your engine condition wears, probably would benefit from the 3 press lo.

That's what I understand la. But I could be wrong.
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wrong. refer to above. as long as your car is not key to ignition or starter control, keyless start gives the ECU full control.

For the record, if you press 3 times the start button for start sequence, you run the higher chance of logging more error codes resulting in powerloss of and increase fc of up to 10%. Reason being is you disrupt the canbus communication. Modules which detect loss of connection or communication interruption will kick off errors in your diagnostics. I've tested this for 8 months and this is a major design issue. As for CKD, I haven't have a car to test. lastly when you 3 button start the car, essentially you're robbing current load. this stresses the battery more as it's already supplying current to all your electronics which are running then later need to supply additional current to crank start the engine.
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post Mar 15 2020, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 15 2020, 02:20 PM)
Noted.. my understanding was more to older cars then.
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No hard feelings bro. not trying to bash you but I'm getting tired with our own people stressing the need to single start the engine.
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post Mar 15 2020, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 15 2020, 03:07 PM)
I see. So now I have to ask my wife to revert back to single press. She switched to 3 press after I told her about it last week!!! biggrin.gif

By the way, who is "we" when you were talking about the piezo injectors?
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we= our x70

QUOTE(de_sengal @ Mar 15 2020, 03:28 PM)
Glad to have a real proton engineer on board here.
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me not engineer. better dont take my word for it. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(josh5671 @ Mar 15 2020, 04:44 PM)
I start my keyless almera 1 press from day 1 until now 6 year nothing broke....so myth busted?
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yup.

QUOTE(cfa28 @ Mar 15 2020, 05:04 PM)
This is quite a good reply but there was a video earlier that some people said was a proton rep saying to start must press 3x.

Perhaps if it was really a proton rep.. He should be api buntut dia
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i rather not jump into that discussion. got warned about it. don't want the PR team to send me a letter. anyway guys you don't need to press 3 times to start. if the next time someone tells you to do so, ask for each sequence time/duration.
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post Apr 3 2020, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Mar 27 2020, 03:27 PM)
I too read this in fb. But the one who told this is sales person proton, so i dont buy his ideas.

Unless it is stated in the manual then it is a different story
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Sales person talk without substance. Sorry. Someone in youtube already did the test. You can go find it.
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post Apr 23 2020, 10:01 AM

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nice to see everyone keeping this thread alive.
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post Apr 24 2020, 05:00 AM

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nah, they will lose the early bird package. no one in the right mind will let this package go. man 5gb of internet per month instead of our puny 1gb. The only reason i would think of people canceling their order is to save keep their financials.

ah... another 2 weeks. guess will start a new project. Already played grounding.. whats next any idea?

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post Apr 24 2020, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 24 2020, 10:53 AM)
Twincharging
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unable to do so.. hardware limitation.
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post Apr 24 2020, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 24 2020, 03:45 PM)
Lets start with lowered spring. The tire gap is too much. Look at glc, gle gap with much lower
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how? cut spring?

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post Apr 25 2020, 11:27 AM

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4k sounds about right. I've checked with other custom absorbers and spring shops. its around this price. but I'll go with ftune
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post Apr 26 2020, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 25 2020, 02:29 PM)
Remember to share results.
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haha I won't touch my suspension at this moment, maybe after 5 years down the road. interested on other mods

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